Argh... two weeks and still constipa... 
#32731
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Can someone give some advice, please.
I'm trying to get into the PB and shake cleanse. I'm using whole psyllium husks, so I am taking 1 tbsp in 10 oz of room temperature water, followed by chugging another 10 oz of water. I am only having BMs every couple of days, and only when I strain at it, not good in the long run.
I got fed up over the weekend and used Senna, but I know it's habit forming, so that's no good in the long run either. I'm drinking at least 2.5 to 3L of water a day- I'm always peeing! I'm also taking 3 tsp or olive oil or hemp oil before meals. Drinking very warm water in the morning. I'm taking digestive enzymes before I eat and have upped my probiotics to 8billion prior to every meal too.
I'm eating oatmeal of whole, rolled oats in the morning, a whole grain with my meals (not rice).
Perhaps going to yoga more often will help, I have had to skip classes for the last two weeks due to a pretty hectic schedule.
I haven't even started with the Bentonite because I'm desperately trying to get regular and I understand it can constipate more. What the heck else can I do? I mean besides just switch to Oxypowder , which I have a lot of reservations about- the primary one being: what kind of 'non-habit forming' substance requires you to take 3 pills a day for maintenance? Sounds pretty fishy to me, but I could be totally out to lunch on that. Also, how do you 'know' it's liquifying your mucoid plaque- I would much rather see it come out of me as proof.
Anything else you can think of would be great- and yes, I am very close to breaking down and buying a home enema kit even though the idea scares the bejeesus out of me.
Thanks and Namaste!
Amy
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Can someone give some advice, please.
I'm trying to get into the PB and shake cleanse. I'm using whole psyllium husks, so I am taking 1 tbsp in 10 oz of room temperature water, followed by chugging another 10 oz of water. I am only having BMs every couple of days, and only when I strain at it, not good in the long run.
I got fed up over the weekend and used Senna, but I know it's habit forming, so that's no good in the long run either. I'm drinking at least 2.5 to 3L of water a day- I'm always peeing! I'm also taking 3 tsp or olive oil or hemp oil before meals. Drinking very warm water in the morning. I'm taking digestive enzymes before I eat and have upped my probiotics to 8billion prior to every meal too.
I'm eating oatmeal of whole, rolled oats in the morning, a whole grain with my meals (not rice).
Perhaps going to yoga more often will help, I have had to skip classes for the last two weeks due to a pretty hectic schedule.
I haven't even started with the Bentonite because I'm desperately trying to get regular and I understand it can constipate more. What the heck else can I do? I mean besides just switch to Oxypowder , which I have a lot of reservations about- the primary one being: what kind of 'non-habit forming' substance requires you to take 3 pills a day for maintenance? Sounds pretty fishy to me, but I could be totally out to lunch on that. Also, how do you 'know' it's liquifying your mucoid plaque- I would much rather see it come out of me as proof.
Anything else you can think of would be great- and yes, I am very close to breaking down and buying a home enema kit even though the idea scares the bejeesus out of me.
Thanks and Namaste!
Amy- Re: Argh... two weeks and still cons... #11958
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This is a reply to # 456,245The psyllium husk products that I have seen and used are very finely ground - I haven't seen any whole husk products. I know that Andreas says that psyllium is irritating to the digestive tracts of some people - perhaps you are one of them? I like psyllium and Bentonite for colon cleansing, but have used magnesium products, too.
From everything that I have experienced and read, the magnesium products are extremely safe and gentle. They work because the oxygen molecules attached to them react with hydrogen molecules in plaque, to form water. One of the ways that people know these products work is from the stench of what gets released into the toilet.
Andreas warns that probiotics cause constipation in some people, too. I don't know why this is so, but he has a lot of expertise. I have been eating miso soup everyday as I go through my inner cleansing process, and that as a natural source of probiotics has been working very well for me.
I did get a home enema kit, thanks to recommendations here on Curezone, and have found it very helpful. I am using coffee enemas to alleviate detoxification symptoms. It helps tremendously.
Hally - Re: Argh... two weeks and still cons... mother
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This is a reply to # 456,245Amy, I have ended up with a real colon blockage from using
P/B shakes. I have just recently started on the Colosan
which is supposed to slowly break up what is in the colon.
I sure hope it helps. So I think P/B can be harmful to some
of us. Be careful Amy. I will try to post later about what
the Colosan does for me.- Re: Argh... two weeks and still cons... hanna
20 y
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This is a reply to # 456,248PB shakes are not good for every Ayurvedic bodytype. Check FAQ at Ask Shelley about doshas. Also Ask Andreas Moritz Forum .
His e-book is $6.95, if you want to read about it.
Johanna
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- Re: Argh... two weeks and still cons... hanna
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- Re: Argh... two weeks and still cons... thebirdlady
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This is a reply to # 456,245Hi..
Magnesium hydroxide is the same ingredient as Milk of Magnesia. It draws liquids into the intestine and that excess liquid stimulates peristalisis. I haven't tried OxyPower but I have used the Whole Body Cleanse by Enzymatic Therapy (same thing) and MOM.
I am half way through my first BP cleanse. I am using the Arise and Shine program and was very torn between this one and Schultzes. In reading this forum and looking at their cleanse kits, the big thing you will see is BOTH include herbal formulas with cascara to stimulate peristalisis and to liquify the mucoid plaque and increase mucelage (Slippery Elm Bark etc)
Prior to ordering my kit, I tried to put a BP cleanse together using stuff from the Health food store. The cascara saved me cause I was really constipated. But then I would get diahrea.
That's why I broke down and bought a kit. There are lots of herbs included to help liquify the plaque. What I've found is I had to find a balance on the herbs that was just enough to keep me having 6 bowel movements a day (soft, unformed but not liquid) and then stick with that combination.
You can look at both web sites and check the ingredients in their herbal formulas. You will find allot of similarities.
So before I started the Arise and Shine, I bought several bottles of Magnesium Citrate so if I get constipated I can resolve the situation within hours. I haven't had to take it cause the herbs are totally working.
So a question I have is are the folks who are doing BP shakes taking any herbs?
Happy Cleansing!
Suzanne
- Re: Argh... two weeks and still cons... #32731
20 y
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This is a reply to # 456,251Hi Everyone,
Thanks for the very useful information. Since I have been terribly constipated since I started taking the psyllium husks, I have decided to stop taking them. I was also reading about the problems associated with magnesium deficiency and what would lead to it, and I think I may have found my answer- especially since most of you have mentioned using magnesium as a means of cleansing as well.
Even if I'm not deficient, perhaps it would help.
Also, thanks for the very useful links regarding Oxypowder . I am now more convinced that it might be a safe and effective option in my case.
Now, what to do with an opened, virtually untouched bottle of Bentonite... hmmmm..... :)- Re: Argh... two weeks and still cons... hanna
20 y
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This is a reply to # 456,254
At least you can still use the bentonite. Put it in the curezone
google search at the top right of the page and you will find more info.
It is good for skin etc.
I would also suggest to keep reading Ask Andreas Moritz Forum , just to add to your knowledge. His views are often different and well explained, so you will have a good comparison.
Johanna - Magnesium hydroxide is NOT absorbed ... thebirdlady
20 y
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MoreThis is a reply to # 456,254Hi...
Just want to be sure you are aware that mag hydroxide and mag citrate are not absorbed into the body. There are many types of magnesium and this is not an solution if you suspect your magnesium levels are low.
I've heard a way to get your mag levels up is soak for 40 minutes in a bath w/lots of Epsom salt. Our body will absorb what it needs.
I have no proof that this works except how extremely relaxed I am afterward. Magnesium is very tranquilizing.
I don't get the same feeling just soaking in a hot bath.
Happy Cleansing!
Suzanne
- Re: Magnesium hydroxide is NOT absor... #32731
20 y
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MoreThis is a reply to # 456,262What about Magnesium Chelate?
What supplimentation should you do if you're deficient, besides the baths?
Thanks!
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What about Magnesium Chelate?
What supplimentation should you do if you're deficient, besides the baths?
Thanks!
- Re: Magnesium hydroxide is NOT absor... thebirdlady
20 y
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This is a reply to # 456,263You have asked the million dollar question! Look at all the magnesium supplements on the web or in a health food store and you will see that no one knows the answer yet.
What I am doing is eating Organic vegetables and I take a multi-mineral blend w/Mag oxide and glycinate and a liquid trace minerals.
During this cleanse I made the mineral broth that both Dr. Anderson and Dr. Schulze recommend. I drink that 3 times a day. Since cleansing depletes our mineral reserves at a fast rate, I
am relying heavily on the mineral broth.
I doubt this helps you.
Happy Cleansing.
Suzanne
- Re: Magnesium hydroxide is NOT absor... thebirdlady
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- Re: Magnesium hydroxide is NOT absor... #32146
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- Magnesium Hydroxide, Magnesium Oxide... #11958
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This is a reply to # 456,262Dear Suzanne,
I don't know where you got your information, but it is not accurate. Magnesium supplements are absorbed into the body. They absorb best when taken on an empty stomach, so that the strong stomach acids can assist in absorption. Magnesium deficiency is very common, and when it has been going on for a very long time, then all of the cells in the body will have sub-optimal levels of magnesium in them. Because magnesium is a very large molecule, it takes a lot of work and a long time for every cell in the body to have its proper amount of magnesium restored to it. It can take up to a year to get cellular magnesium levels up to an optimal level, if someone is deficient. Magnesium is a very safe nutrient to take, and estimates are that half of the U.S. population is deficient in magnesium because of fluoridation in many water systems, and depletion of magnesium in agricultural soils that have been depleted of micro-nutrients.- Re: Magnesium Hydroxide is not all M... thebirdlady
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This is a reply to # 456,272Hi.. I think you misunderstood the dialogue. First the discussion is not about magnesium, it is about magnesium hydroxide which is only used for antacids like Maalox etc and
Milk of Magnesia.
ERGO: it is used for antacids and constipation.
You won't find Magnesium hydroxide included in a magnesium supplement intended to supply your body with the various magnesiums like Magnesium oxide, magnesium citrate, magnesium gluconate.
The peron at the beginning of the string said he is low in magnesium and thought Oxypowder would solve that too. I was simply trying to point out that the majority/probably all of magnesium hydroxide stays in the intestines and should not be confused with a magnesium supplement or change in diet to address his low mag issue. The hydroxide draws water from the body into the intestines...this would not work if the hydroxide went thru the intestines and into the blood.
Another thing to look at is the extremely high doseage of magnesium hydroxide in Milk of Magnesia and Colon Cleanse products. A conservative dose is 2,600 mg 3 times a day. That dose will NOT cause diarrhea. The folks I'm reading here taking Oxypowder are having liquid stools so dose must be higher.
For more information: do a search on magnesium hydroxide on the web.
Happy Cleansing!
Suzanne - Re: Magnesium Hydroxide, Magnesium O... #32731
20 y
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This is a reply to # 456,272Hello,
Again thank you all for the wonderful information.
The first thing I have done is gone and bought a Magnesium suppliment (Chelate) at 125mg per caplet. I only just read up on magnesium supplimentation, and looked at my Cal/Mag suppliment... of course it does not have the 2:1 ratio necessary for the Mag to be absorbed by my body. What a waste of my money! Why would a reputable suppliment company (Nautural Factors in Canada) even manufacture a 1:1 formulation when it would hinder the absorption of Magnesium?! You can bet they are going to receive a very terse e-mail from me. I also plan on rotating between Magnesium oxide, citrate and chelate to make sure I am getting the mineral in all it's forms.
Now I am just trying to determine whether the Health Food stores in my area carry Oxypowder so I can do a cleanse probably better suited to my body.
Thanks and Namaste!
- Re: Magnesium Hydroxide, Magnesium O... #11958
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This is a reply to # 456,276Magnesium chelate just means that the magnesium is chelated - makes it easier to assimilate. Magnesium is magnesium - it is just that some forms assimilate better. Magnesium oxide is cheap, but unless taken on an empty stomach with lots of stomach acid, it is not very absorbable. Magnesium citrate is much more highly absorbable, and it is also a little bit easier on the kidneys.
Many nutrition experts now recommend that calcium and magnesium be taken in a 1:1 ratio, rather than the previously recommended 2:1 ratio.
- Re: Magnesium Hydroxide, Magnesium O... #11958
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- Re: Magnesium Hydroxide is not all M... thebirdlady
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- Re: Magnesium hydroxide is NOT absor... #32731
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- Re: Argh... two weeks and still cons... hanna
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- Re: Argh... two weeks and still cons... #32731
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- Re: Argh... two weeks and still cons... valerie_cct
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MoreThis is a reply to # 456,245Amy, there is nothing to be scared about buying and using a home enema kit. If the choice is ever going to bed at night constipated, or taking a gentle cleansing enema beforehand, I choose the enema every time.
It's really not a big deal. See http://valerie_cct.tripod.com/enemas.html
- Re: Argh... two weeks and still cons... #11958
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