this point is constantly discussed here without actually being alluded to in a manner as direct as you have put it. i suppose it boils down to the question, "when are we saved?" for a saved person is just that.

another way it is discussed is as the doctrine of "eternal security" and even gets included in questions of "predestination". all of these ideas have their genesis in scripture, but they must all be reconciled to all of the rest of scripture. the ones that come to mind, and which seem to answer the question of when one is saved, are these:

Matthew 10:22
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Matthew 24:13
But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Mark 13:13
And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

then, of course, the question is what constitutes the end? at any rate, i take what jesus says over what anyone else has to say in the matter, as he is the savior and the one to whom the father has said to listen. and if my experience with the scriptures is any indication, they are usually not as clear as they first appear to be. our perception changes as we gain experience with the lord and mature. and that takes commitment and obedience to jesus.

to question whether or not one is worthy of salvation is a moot point - none of us are. to question whether or not one can be saved is to question the lord himself, and would be counter productive. to demand assurance of salvation...what would be ones motive in that?

That's a good way to start the morning here in Flordia. The Word of predestination and eternally saved I believe Jesus answered that when He said he started with 100 sheep and and finished with 100 sheep.

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madame that is a very good question and very true.once saved always saved. however that is not the full story.no one and i do mean no one,except jesus christ,the first born fron the dead.contrary to popular belief most christians think they are saved wher they are baptized and give thier hearts to god. incidently all of you already belong to god.it is just a matter of obeying god.to find someone that trully obeys god today is indeed a rarety.
now for the proof from the bible.
mat.10:22 "and you will be hated by all for my name's sake.but he who endures to the end shall be saved." (some bibles say will be saved,same thing)
mat.24:13 but he who endures to the end shall be saved.
mark 13:13"and you will be hated by all men for my name's sake.but he who endures to the end shall be saved."
you see it must be important because god caused it to be put in these three places as well as other scriptures through out the bible.there is something very important that you must pay attention to,and that is you will notice that these verses say very plainly that you sall be or will be.that is speaking of a future event.
salvation is an ongoing continual event as long as you live and continue to obey god.salvation is complete when you are judged and changed to a spirit being,then youy can look on god for the first time.because now a phyiscal being cannot look at god. remember when god hid moses in the rock so he could pass and moses only saw his backside.
most christians are of the false belief that they go to heaven when they die. not so,jno.3:13 very plainly says(pay very close attention)no one has ascended to heaven but he who came down from heaven,that is,the son of man,who is in heaven.
also please noticn jno 6:44 no man (mankind to include women)can come to me unless the father who sent me draws(means to call)him; and i will raise him up at the last day.(did you notice that?god himself said that he would raise him up at the last day)i don't know about you madame but i perfer to believe god.
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