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#17163
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I'm a new christian sort of speak. When I was younger I was asked to say the sinners prayer and ask God to come into my heart. Back then I was led to believe that if I "believed" that Jesus was the son of God and died on the cross for my sins that I would go to heaven when I died. Now after reading the words of Christ I feel that it is so much more than that, that I must love God above all with all my heart, mind, and soul and that if I truly love and believe in God and Christ that it will be evident in my works here on earth. Now for me to have a life that pleases God I will need to get to know him better through reading the word/bible for I do not see how I can truly love him without knowing him and seeking/praising him. Through his word I will develop more faith and begin to love him with all my heart. At this point I think maybe if I died tomorrow I would not go to heaven because I dont have this kind of love for him and still have some unforgivness in my heart (that needs more faith/love to get rid of) and I do not regularly put God first in my daily life. But I know that I want a relationship with God and I am working hard on it, and will succeed.
But I worry about my husband who seems to read the bible and go to Chruch only as an insurance policy or safety net. I know he believes in Christ/God and know that he prays sincerely but he does not yearn to know Christ better and to love God with all of his heart. In fact he claims he already does. Yet he doesnt talk about God or do anything outside of Sunday church (although does say prayer before dinner and bed). He reads the bible for about 10-20 minutes a day but only because I have somewhat demanded that he become more of a Christian for our family. He worrys about becoming too Christian now that I have banned television/cable and radio from our home (we were addicted). He seems to think that going to church on Sunday and reading the bible for so many minutes a day is being a good christian (Catholic background by the way).
I fear that the closer I get to God the farther I will get from my marriage.
How do I proceed? I know that I will choose my relationship with God over my marriage but it breaks my heart that my husband does not feel the same way about loving God as I do. How can we read the same words of Christ and see things so differently? My husband believes that all we need to do to be "Christian" is to be "good" people. I believe that we must develope a personal relationship with God and develop stronger faith, that we are required to grow and do more. He see's religion as a gift to make our lives better and more at peace/comfortable.
Can someone help me see things clearly? I feel like I am at a fork in the road.
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- Re: What is necessary to enter into ... beej
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MoreThis is a reply to # 406,303Mark 9:24 ... Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
2Peter 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
Nothing has ever done more for my faith than to study Daniel 7. The four beasts are four kingdoms,Dan. 7:17.
They came out of the sea. The sea is "peoples, and multitudes, and nations" Rev. 17:15.
The lion is Babylon. The bear is the Medo-Persian empire. The leopard is the Grecian empire. The fourth beast is the Roman empire.
History shows that these things did happen, just like God said they would.Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 406,305We have a TV, VCR and DVD. No cable though. When we bought this house over 10yrs ago, it had cable, and it worked. My wife pulled it all out and threw it away.
I just said "you're right".
We have used the VCR alot to watch Bible studies.
- Edited beej
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- Re: What is necessary to enter into ... puppies4
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This is a reply to # 406,30317163,
"At this point I think maybe if I died tomorrow I would not go to heaven because I dont have this kind of love for him and still have some unforgivness in my heart"
i am sure that some others will respond, but very importantly please do not feel that you have to be perfect to go to heaven. if you have sincerely accepted christ as your saviour his righteousness covers you. dying tomorrow, you WOULD go to heaven if you made that sincere decision for him.
we are all growing and thank God that he has given you the desire to know him better and to love him more.
as for your husband, place yourself in his shoes for a minute and think of the changes that you have suddenly made in your lives. i'm surprised he didn't revolt when you got rid of the tv and radio and demanded that he get more "christian". wow! I would have revolted. nobody likes to be pushed to do anything.
i think it's pretty good that he is reading his bible daily and going along with you so far. if you are worried about his spiritual growth, pray that God gives him a desire for more... and quit pushing. focus on your own relationship with God. that is the only one that you can do anything about anyways. maybe when he sees changes in you that will prompt him.
"How do I proceed? I know that I will choose my relationship with God over my marriage but it breaks my heart that my husband does not feel the same way about loving God as I do. "
i think you are really jumping the gun talking about your marriage as though it is lost. give God time to work... focus on yourself first.
- Re: What is necessary to enter into ... been there done that
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This is a reply to # 406,306If God is as hard on my brethren as you think He is, I don't want to live with Him forever. No matter what you think of your husband or how much better than him you think you are, nobody can do anything to improve someone else's spiritual relationship. A lot of people will claim to have some extra insight into spiritual 'doctoring' and have some kind of spiritual 'prescriptions', but they are only "puffed up" and would not even have the right to think His name if it weren't for God's grace. Love covers (can overlook) a multitude of sins. It doesn't sound like you're willing to OVERLOOK his 'sins' (discrepancies, shortcomings, flaws, etc.). If your husband was in the gladiator arena, what would be your motion,...thumbs up or thumbs down? THIS IS THE MOMENT OF TRUTH (oh, by the way, do you know who the truth is?......John 14:6). The Holy Ghost will teach God's children more and more about true love every day IF we choose to be good students, NOT of the Body, not of the elders, not of the church, not of scholars, not of pastors, but of The Lord's spirit and are attentive to The Lord in our personal relationship (HE IS A JEALOUS GOD, of course He will entertain your marriage because He wants you to be happy), but I'm talking about the SPIRITUAL relationship, He covets that and wants us to do the same. Because of our freewill, He leaves that up to us, but I can't help but think that we tend to grieve The Holy Spirit when we don't.
If you think I got off topic, I didn't, I am illustrating that love is love no matter if it is on earth or in heaven. There are NO types (agape, philos, eros, storge, these are types of RELATIONSHIPS). The teaching that there are types of love is a completely misguided teaching, one that the god of confusion wants to be popular because he doesn't want us to properly understand what love is. WHY?...because
God is.....LOVE.
The god of confusion also wants us to think that 'sin' is what we avoid inorder to be in God's grace (and completely disregard the suffering caused by the consequences of even the smallest evil, lest we grasp the concept of COMPASSION). Technically, misspelling a word is a 'sin' (against the law of perfection in the milky way galaxy or something, who cares), and if I have misspelled any words here, I trust that you will cover (overlook, disregard) my multitude of 'sin'. You can do the same for your husband and 'stand in the gap' (be his advocate the way that The Lord is ours).
So what I'm saying is that
LOVE is LOVE.
and I can't imagine that The Lord would ever get any pleasure of pitting your relationship with your husband against your relationship with Him (I don't even know if it's possible because He gave you your husband, HOLY matrimony, marriage is an illustration of The Lord's relationship to the BRIDE of Christ).
But also that 'sin' has NOTHING (in scripture and reality) to do with the NEW Testament Christian (we only choose to inflict it on each other and ourselves). You may CHOOSE to see the flaws in yourself and your husband now, but when you learn more of LOVE (God), you will be as The Lord wants His Body to be...
our past erased, our present blessed, our future assured, death has lost it's sting. If it weren't for The Holy Spirit, I could and would walk this earth like a king (we are sons of The King, royalty, a royal preisthood).
It SHOULD take the power of The Holy Spirit to teach a Christian humility.
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- Re: What is necessary to enter into ... puppies4
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This is a reply to # 406,313that was amazingly good advice. i am impressed.
just my last two cents.- Re: What is necessary to enter into ... been there done that
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This is a reply to # 406,333Puppies4,
I was posting to 17163 about 1 Peter 4:8 ("...love covers a multitude of sins"). It is not just tolerance, but a matter of hospitality that we consciously decide not to pick on each other, NO MATTER HOW MUCH AUTHORITY, even responsibilty, scripture gives us to do so (1 Corinthians 6:12 and 10:23 All is lawful for me, but not all is good for me, which means that our spiritual growth is largely dependent on our ability to be hospitable towards others. Christianity is not about the law, it's about the heart (Romans 2:29 "...real circumcision is a matter of the heart" INWARD).
If you decide in your heart to 'go to bat' for your brethren and explain to Jesus that you didn't feel that it would have been best if you had reproved your brethren because of the risk of alienating your brethren and that you rather let The Lord teach your brother the error of his way (when and IF The Lord chooses to, the matter might not be so important that The Lord will reprove your brother at all), then The Lord will notice that, not only are you so trusting of Him and His lovingkindness that you will go to bat for your brethren, but that you love your brethren enough to risk a harsh word from The Lord. What's the worst that could happen? There's no need to fear (1 John 4:18). Whether The Lord 'gives you a dirty look' or not, He will be impressed that you have learned well from The Holy Spirit.
- Re: What is necessary to enter into ... puppies4
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This is a reply to # 406,358btdt,
i have a very hard time comprehending your posts...
regardless, you responded to my post in your first message and not that of the poster above me, 17163.
- Re: What is necessary to enter into ... puppies4
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- Re: What is necessary to enter into ... trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 406,303the doctrine of fire insurance is everywhere. but the lord is definitely speaking to your heart and, hey, you aint dead yet!
go where the lord leads you in your walk, do the things he expects of you, and everything else HE will take care of - its not your responsibility. forgive your husband and treat him the way the lord says to - the way you would want to be treated if you were in his position. it is as if he were christ and you were the elect. that is what the bible says, so treat him that way. the lord has ways of dealing with those who dont take their responsibilities seriously or who mistreat his dear children. all you have to do is be one of his. you may end up dragging him into the kingdom kicking and screaming, but it will be worth it for both of you. no greater love has any person than they lay down their life for their friend. - Re: What is necessary to enter into ... freelastchance
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It will only hurt you to judge him sister. We are all sinners, and it is only Christ's blood that covers us. I can only encourage you to seek the Lord in this, and pray earnestly for your husband, pray that his vision for Christ and his heart would be open to the Lord, but do not try to teach him. He is reading the bible and doing what he believes is right, and this is where the Lord will meet him and convict him. If a wife tries to convict her husband, she can only bring him down, but sincere prayer will bring him up, and it will bring you up too! Search your heart and ask the Lord to do in you, anything that will bring about his will for you and your husband. Pray for unity, and right leadership. The Lord knows just what it will take, and when your husband becomes the Spiritual leader he is called to be, God will expect you to submit willingly and cheerfully as his wife. This will raise him up. Be his servant, as Christ said "as much as you have done it unto the least of these, you've done it unto me." and become a bond slave to Christ, that everything you do for your husband is to Christ.
1 Corinthians 7:16 "For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife? 17 But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches."
Serve the Lord gladly sister, and do not judge, the Lord will do his part! Take courage.
-Naomi- Re: What is necessary to enter into ... trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 406,331that was amazingly good advice. i am impressed.
just my last two cents.
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- Re: What is necessary to enter into ... beej
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