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The West Coast Prosperity Convention is on kcm.org all this week. It is going to be awesome. You can listen online.- Re: West Coast Convention Ev
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MoreThis is a reply to # 405,202Prosperity, Schmosperity!
All the prosperity I need is in the Bible! God meets all my needs. However, I don't need a 750k home or a 50k car! Unfortunately that is what KCM teaches with all their prosperity talk. If you don't have a big house, fancy car and all the fancy gadgets than you are a nobody. When in reality we all have an identity in Christ Jesus.
Their teaching is so out of balance.- Re: West Coast Convention #49856
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MoreThis is a reply to # 405,205Just give it a try with an open heart. You are completely wrong about them. The Word says seek first the Kigdom of God and all these other things shall be added unto you. If you seek first the kingdom of God, then God will give you all the other THINGS. God is a good God, and He wants His children to be blessed in this world and have a good life. And it is alot better to have money, than to not have money. And how can we spread the gospel without money. They have airplanes and TV stations to spread the gospel. You need lots of money to spread the gospel. They give to the kingdom of God to spread the gospel and it is given unto them. That is in the Word of God and God don't lie. It works! Give and it shall be given unto you. Just listen to it, I'll bet it will change your life for the better! Just remember God is all Good. The LOVE OF money is the root of all evil, not money.
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This is a reply to # 405,206Unfortunately, you are not telling me anything I don't already know. I used to partner with KCM. They are only there for the money. As soon as you may not be able to give, they are gone.
Don't get me wrong. I know it is the LOVE of money that is the root to all evil, NOT money. However, their love of the prosperity gospel makes me ill. Because they simply refrain from teaching God's Love, Mercy and about Salvation! They butter it all down with the prosperity gospel. - Re: West Coast Convention califlady
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This is a reply to # 405,206I have been there and done that. And I can say without any hesitation that my life is way richer as I focus on the prosperity of others. What can I give to cause others to be prosperous in their walk with the Lord.
S- Excellent point! Ev
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This is a reply to # 405,210It's not about us. It's not about us getting all we can get.
It is all about Jesus Christ, our relationship with our Lord and Saviour, and how we can serve.- Re: Excellent point! califlady
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This is a reply to # 405,211Yes and this is the heart of seeking the things of the Lord and His kingdom and then all other things are added to us. It seems to me when I am focused on what He is adding to me, though He does add much I sure don't enjoy them as much as when focused on others. The blessings are greater. *smile*
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This is a reply to # 405,212This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt MEDITATE THEREIN day and night, that thou mayest observe to DO according to ALL that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way PROSPEROUS, and then thou shalt have good success. Joshua 1:8
But his delight is in the LAW of the LORD; and in his law doth he MEDITATE DAY and NIGHT. And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall PROSPER. Psalm 1:2-3
The LAW of thy mouth is BETTER unto me than thousands of gold and silver. Psalm 119;72
Oh how LOVE I thy LAW! It is my MEDITATION all the day. Psalm 119:97
Mine eyes prevent [stay awake through] the night watches, that I might MEDITATE in thy WORD. Psalm 119:148
Then shalt thou PROSPER, if thou takest heed to FULFILL THE STATUTES AND JUDGEMENTS which the LORD charged Moses with concerning Israel.... 1 Chronicles 22:13
O LOVE the LORD, all ye his saints: for the LORD preserveth the faithful, and plentifully rewardeth the proud doer. Be of good courage, and he shall strengthen your heart, all ye that hope in the LORD. Psalm 31:23-24
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if sop be that we SUFFER with Him, that we may be also glorified together. Romans 8:16-17
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth; that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. Galatians 6:7-8
Yea, and ALL that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall SUFFER PERSECUTION. But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. 2 Timothy 3:12-13
Blessings in Christ,
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This is a reply to # 405,205God meets us in our prosperity and in our poverty just because His mercies are new each morning. I sure would hate to explain to the folks that walk with Christ in India, Philipines,Mexico, Africa, China and on and on around the world that their poverity is because of their lack of faith. When I consider their walk with the Lord I can clearly see that they are prosperous and by comparison I walk in poverty. Even so, because of what the Lord Jesus does for me each day being full of grace and mercy I am rich beyond my wildest dreams. We will grow richer and richer day by day as we learn God's Ways through the study of His Word, meditate on His Word and put into action what He teaches us.
How blessed we are!
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This is a reply to # 405,207I especially agree about the folks in India, Philipines,Mexico, Africa, China. After all it is their faith which keeps them going every single day!
Not a faith in money. But a faith in the ROCK OF OUR SALVATION, Jesus Christ.- Re: Faith Alikat
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This is a reply to # 405,209I agree with you both. I consider the whole prosperity thing a false American gospel, designed to mislead people away.
"it takes lots of money to spread the gospel". The gospel has been spreading for two thousand years non-stop, being accosted and persecuted everywhere, and yet, it will be preached until the end of days. This does not need 'money', it needs the power of God and people willing to be obedient to His call. It does not need fancy jet planes and multi-million dollar media centers.- Re: Faith Ev
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This is a reply to # 405,213Those multi million dollar homes, jet planes and media centers could be liquidated and feed millions of people, and build homes for the homeless.
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This is a reply to # 405,214Take a look at this $20 million baby. KCM needs two of these to zip them across the world. Isn't it comforting to know that people in third world countries are going to hear the prosperity message?!
http://elitecxteam.org/media/virtual_tour/- Re: What Would Jesus Fly? Ev
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This is a reply to # 405,217The plane looks lovely!
I wonder why they have to show it off to the world via internet? That must cost quite a bit as well! I can't imagine what jet fuel costs, either.
All in the name of Jesus Christ, it's rather sad. I wonder how many souls come to know the mercy and love of Jesus because of that plane?- Hmmmmnn....good question, Ev.. n/... Alikat 19 y 1,539
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This is a reply to # 405,214Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorowfull: for he had great possessions.
Then Jesus said unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you; It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken ALL, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore? And Jesus said to them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. And everyone that hath FORSAKEN houses, or bretheren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive a hundred fold, and shall inherit everlasting life. But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first. Matthew 19:21-30
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2 Chronicles 1 (New International Version)
11 God said to Solomon, "Since this is your heart's desire and you have not asked for wealth, riches or honor, nor for the death of your enemies, and since you have not asked for a long life but for wisdom and knowledge to govern my people over whom I have made you king, 12 therefore wisdom and knowledge will be given you. And I will also give you wealth, riches and honor, such as no king who was before you ever had and none after you will have."
Mark 4:19
19but the worries of this life, the deceitfulness of wealth and the desires for other things come in and choke the word, making it unfruitful.Mathew,
19"Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
22"The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are good, your whole body will be full of light. 23But if your eyes are bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!
24"No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.
Do Not Worry
25"Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes? 26Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? 27Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life[b]?
28"And why do you worry about clothes? See how the lilies of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. 29Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. 30If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? 31So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' 32For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. 34Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.
Proverbs 21:21
21 He who pursues righteousness and love
finds life, prosperity [a] and honor.
Luke 17:33 (New International Version)
33Whoever tries to keep his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it.
John 6:27 (New International Version)
27Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. On him God the Father has placed his seal of approval
1 Samuel 2
7 The LORD sends poverty and wealth;
he humbles and he exalts.
Psalm 37:16 (New International Version)
16 Better the little that the righteous have
than the wealth of many wicked;
Proverbs 11:4 (New International Version)
4 Wealth is worthless in the day of wrath,
but righteousness delivers from death.
Ecclesiastes 5:10 (New International Version)
10 Whoever loves money never has money enough;
whoever loves wealth is never satisfied with his income.
This too is meaningless.
Mark 4:19
19but the worries of this life, the deceitfulness of wealth and the desires for other things come in and choke the word, making it unfruitful.
1 Timothy 6:17 (New International Version)
17Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment.
Luke 11:13 (New International Version)13If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!"
3Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves. 4Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others.Philippians 2
Philippians 4
11I am not saying this because I am in need, for I have learned to be content whatever the circumstances. 12I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want. 13I can do everything through him who gives me strength.- Thank You Zule...n/m califlady 19 y 1,625
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