My personal impressions about Benny ... 
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I know this topic was trashed out well. These are just purely my impressions:
For quite a few month now whenever I turned on tv and found Benny Hinn talking- strange feeling surrounded me. Feeling that something is not right, that something is different not only from any christian evangelist but from religious figure from different religions.
I was sceptical and I thought I was too much sceptical since I talked to jehova witnesses a number of times (they had temple 0.5 mile away from my previous job), mormons, moonists et cetera. Something is not right.
And sadly, the feeling never left me. The feeling that this one is the false prophet.
First. He talks sometimes bizzare things, in addition to what you find excerpts from his speaches I heard hi saying somethign like that: " when there is no head, the soul and Jesus..." I couldn't believe my eyes. And sometimes you wonder his bordeline questionable statements like: "don't seek forgivness, seek Him who forgives" and so on.
Second. Those miracles he propagates. According to catholic tradition which has in reality very strict definition of miracle is that miracle is immeadiate recovery of a person from life threatening disease with NO recovery period, independently confirmed by two MD's. No such miracles were confirmed officially.
Third. Manu many times you could clearly see his concious seeking constantly manipulate masses (psychology of masses is nothing new)during his services. I was terrified when during the last time I observed him waiwing his hand to the crowd proclaiming Holy Spirit is among them and around 50-100 people would fall over or back into their chairs. And that was done reptitively, in wawes, like you see doing soccer fans during European soccer maches- people all around pastor Hinn were falling like trees after a nuke explosion. people were trembling, their eyes like difficult to describe. I got an impression that he was more important than jesus himself. And when you see a young boy of about 10y. old who's lower lip was trembling, was crying and totally consumed by the pastor's words- you know this is not right.
Fourth. Oh, this one is big. Money change people and change very much so. When you look at all facts, his lavish lifestyle, his murky big money construction projects, his ministry;s refusal to join christian financial responsibility watchdog group- you get the idea this is not right either.
I liked the Pope, I liked Mahatma Ghandi, I liked Dalai Lama, I like Billy Graham- even if you disagree strongly, you feel their words are for real, they are sincere and they are far away from being false prohets from whatever they preached about.
But form all those arguments the most important for me is- my heart. It says that pastor Hin says one thing but does completely different. I do not pretend to be absolutely right. It's just impression of mine.
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I agree with you about Benny Hinn,
This man is truly a false prophet, he is only interested in peoples money!
Would you believe that he told hundreds of people in 1995 that Jesus was going to appear at his convention in 1995, they waited in the hall, The Lord Never show, then he said in the 1990's that fidel castro would be killed by say 1990-1999, well guess what? fidel castro is still alive in 2005.
The man does this just to prise money out of all those old, sickly folks. He made a packet! And like others, his money goes straight into his pocket for his own benefits, not the Lords benefit.
At least when I say u will get a free rose petal from www.tldm.org, you will get one and a free one, blessed by the real Jesus and Mary, plus real testimonies from bayside with doctors certification for proof! People healed from cancer, blindness and doctors cert to back it up with certifcates you can view online, not say so!
Real miraculous photos of our Lady the Blessed Virgin Mary, etc....
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This is a reply to # 403,721I was saved in a radical "full gospel" church that were lovers of the television faith healers. So, I know for sure the Lord uses those ministries for His good. While I don't agree with those ministries and believe there is much showmanship going on I do see Jesus being taught through the huge gatherings in India and Africa. I have watched them myself on Sky Angel. God will use them as He pleases. Seeing those gatherings I became convicted to leave those ministries to God. What did Jesus say when the apostles came to him saying there were folks teaching about Jesus that were not a part of their group? I do not agree with much of those ministries and suggest others be in their Word in order to be able to discern truth. It is my mission to encourage Christians to know His Word and be in prayer. Know truth in order to discern untruth. Most "Christians" do not spend time each day in study of His Word. They prefer reading other books. While other books can be good teaching tools nothing replaces God's Word.
Billy Graham is a Christian man, a lover of truth. His teachings point us to Jesus. He is focused on teaching the Word of God. It is interesting to know that few that come forward at Dr. Graham's or any other revival meetings actually walk in faith. But, the few that are saved are surely worth it.
Ghandi and the Dali Lama are truly anti-christs. They teach no truth about Jesus they don't lead us to Jesus at all, never ever. They teach a different way, a way that leads to eternal death. I know this for sure because before I was saved I studied eastern religeon in depth for many years. While it is true anti-christs believe their teachings that does not mean their teachings are life saving. I know this is a hard word but it is truth none the less and can be proved by reading some of the writings of eastern religeous writers. Never will they point to Jesus as God, the Son of God born of a virgin having given Himself on a cross to save His own from the sin they so deserve. Never will they teach that Jesus rose on the third day and now sits at the right hand of the Father. Never will they teach that Jesus is the way the truth and the life and that no one will see the Father but through Jesus. No...they will deceive many though as they teach that Jesus was a wonderful teacher, a prophet. They are liars all, beware! lest you lose you soul. Read your Bible each day! Pray for understanding and the strength to follow Jesus and to understand His Word and to be able to apply the Word to your life.
In Christ, the Rock I stand!
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What an awesome message, CalifLady! Ev
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Right on! Well said. I feel funny watching Benny Hinn sometimes too but I do believe too that our Lord uses whom he will. I enjoyed the conventions in India.
It thrilled my soul. The Word says be 'as a little child' and those hungry and new in the Lord...well to see it just thrills me. Thanks again Sharon for your response. In Christ, an
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This is a reply to # 403,723Sharon,
I always greatly appreciate your comments. I share your mission to encourage Christians to know truth and be in prayer—-to know truth to discern untruth.
I agree with you about Ghandi and the Dali Lama—as counterfeits go, both are three dollar bills—very easy to spot. While I am in agreement with much of what you posted, I challenge you to prayerfully go a bit deeper in your analysis of this situation. Those who are teaching contrary to the Bible must always be exposed as false teachers—never condoned. You are correct that Ghandi and the Dali Lama teach no truths about Jesus—that’s what makes them easy to spot as counterfeits. It is much more difficult to discern truth when someone speaks much truth about Jesus, mixed with subtle, grievous errors. Especially when, as you acknowledged, most “Christians” don’t spend time studying God’s Word each day.
Because people such as Benny Hinn and the papacy itself ‘claim’ to preach Jesus Christ, their teachings must be examined much, much closer under the lens of Scripture.
If you seriously examine the theology, doctrines and many foibles of Benny Hinn in light of the Scriptures, you will quickly see him for what he is. http://www.banner.org.uk/wof/Hinn.html The same can be said of the papacy. Now, what I find most interesting about Benny Hinn these days, is his strange alliance with the papacy. Clearly, Benny is a false teacher, as the person who started this thread was able to discern, so why would the papacy want to be associated with such a man?
This is particularly interesting because most professing Christian’s have become so doctrinally illiterate that they can no longer discern truth from error when examining the claims of the those who are ‘false teachers’. Syncretism, pluralism and ecumenism have weakened the Gospel to the point that most professing Christians are no longer sure what the Gospel is or isn’t anymore. The ‘new’ tolerance makes us accepting of just about everyone who claims they ‘believe’ in Jesus—-no matter how many extra-biblical, false teachings they heap upon that statement. If anyone is saved at a ‘Benny Hinn crusade’, it is by the power of the Holy Spirit in spite of Benny, not because of him.
From Benny’s own website:
http://www.bennyhinn.org/resources/pope.cfm
In today’s world, it’s not politically correct to speak out against the false doctrines of the papacy (or just about anyone else). Do so, and you just might lose your job:
http://www.local10.com/news/4378405/detail.html
Finally, here are some compelling evangelical comments regarding the death of the pope:
Al Mohler http://www.crosswalk.com/news/weblogs/mohler/1322077.html?view=print
Joe Mizzi, M.D. http://www.justforcatholics.org/pope.htm
Mike Gendron http://www.pro-gospel.org/main/Topics/topic-027.php
Sharon, it was no accident that the Holy Spirit led you away from the churches that you were led away from. I exhort you to go deeper in your discernment of the truth—-this is especially important in these times in which we live. Please prayerfully consider these matters.
In Christ, standing on the Rock with you,
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This is a reply to # 403,738You are just plain wrong about Hinn and papacy- those two have nothing in common.
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Cyrulis,
You started this thread by sharing your concerns about Benny Hinn. In light of Scripture, it's obvious that Benny Hinn is a false teacher.
http://www.banner.org.uk/wof/Hinn.html
It's obvious Benny wants some sort of an association with the Vatican. And evidently, the Vatican also wants some sort of association with Benny. On his website, Benny is playing up his relationship with the Vatican. He was invited by the Vatican to participate in a private mass for John Paul II at St. Peter's Basilica. Those kinds of invitations are not easy to get. The mass was said for the 'repose' of John Paul's soul--in other words, it was offered to shorten his stay in the place they call 'purgatory'.
This is an association with the Vatican. Check out this link from Benny's site:
http://www.bennyhinn.org/resources/pope.cfm
Note the photo of Benny to the bottom left of the article. He 'almost' looks like a priest, dressed in black with a specific catholic clergy style collar, which he often wears.
If the papacy and Benny Hinn have nothing in common, why would the Vatican want Benny Hinn at the Vatican for a very exclusive private mass for John Paul II, and why would Benny want to be there?
In contrast to Benny Hinn, I don't think Al Mohler received an invitiation to John Paul's funeral, and I doubt he would have attended if he did. As an evangelical Christian, Al Mohler credited John Paul for his good works, but he still took a firm Biblical stand to oppose the unbiblical teachings of the papacy.
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- Toonces Ev
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This is a reply to # 403,788You make good and valid points! Thanks for sharing that information and the links!
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This is a reply to # 403,788You guys are so scared even to imagine that papal biblical teachings are biblical but that's exactly what it is. I gues that one should be a new looong thread to discuss that but unless one wants to further the topic we shouldn;t be pushing it.
As far as Benny Hinn having an audience with Pope so what? Pope went to his killer so it means he was cozying with the killers and cozying with some turkish gangs? It very thin to draw conclusions about a person from whom he meets with. Pope and Hinn teach different things and it is disguisting to draw theological similarities. Nonsence.- More on Benny Hinn... eileen45
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I have never seen or heard Benny Hinn personally - just heard about him second hand from some friends and family that have been enamored with him. Recently I was sent some interesting links about Benny Hinn with some shocking facts about his ministry...and will let you discern for yourself the spirit that drives this ministry. Shalom~! Eileen
Benny Hinn is a Roman Catholic mystic, who is taking the Pentecostal and Charismatic Church down the ecumenical road towards Rome. This has been known for some time. For example the Italian Assemblies of God refused to endorse his crusade in Rome (1996), sponsored by the independent Pentecostals, who themselves were shocked when Mr Hinn failed to once open his Bible on the first night of the Crusade. On the second night the interpreter refused to interpret Hinn's favourable comments about the Pope and the Catholic Church and the music group refused to sing. The up-shot was that the organisers signed a document of "non-association" with Benny Hinn, and promised never to invite him to Italy again. Despite this he was invited as guest speaker to the Australian Assemblies of God Conference in May 1997, where once more he spoke favourably of the Pope and the Roman Catholic Church. At that Conference he told how he had met with Cardinal Sin of the Philippines, with whom he formed an agreement to encourage people who attended his crusade not to leave the Roman Catholic Church. The Cardinal in turn promised to encourage Roman Catholics to attend the Hinn Crusade. (Things have become worse since then! We have documented evidence that Hinn is into necromancy - please see below.)
The most disturbing feature was that no one at the Australian Assemblies of God Conference raised public objection to Hinn's comments. Now Benny Hinn has been invited to conduct a Healing Crusade in Auckland on June 13, 1998. Those endorsing the Crusade include Wayne Hughes, Senior Pastor of the Takapuna Assembly of God, Ian Bilby, Senior Pastor of the Auckland City Elim Church, Paul de Jong, Senior Pastor of the Christian Life Centre, Auckland, Hamish Divett, Senior Minister of the Christian City Church, Auckland and Peter Mortlock, Senior Pastor of the Bays Christian Fellowship, New Life Churches of New Zealand. (Letter dated 4th March, 1998 issued by the New Zealand branch of the Benny Hinn Ministries (PO Box 24377, Royal Oak, Auckland - phone 09 521 0133; fax 09 528 7185; mobile 025 285 1311 - coordinator Averil E Quertier).)
Wayne Hughes is the General Superintendent of Assemblies of God in New Zealand and was one of the Church leaders who, together with Ian Bilby, former President of the New Zealand Elim denomination, endorsed the visit of Rodney Howard-Browne whose "laughing revival" has caused so much division among Churches and Christian families in New Zealand and Australia. The New Zealand Apostolic Superintendent also endorsed Rodney Howard-Browne, BUT is not listed as endorsing Benny Hinn.
CWM alerted Wayne Hughes to the fact of Benny Hinn's documented necromancy in late January or early February '98. Despite this he has continued to endorse Hinn and his ministry, although it is rumoured that he is concerned that he might be doing the wrong thing. For the record we have published a copy of the relevant email. Our strong recommendation to all Christians is that you do not participate in any supportive way - by means of donations or otherwise - in the Benny Hinn Crusade or to the Benny Hinn Ministries.
John the apostle of our Lord Jesus Christ wrote: - "Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him (bid him God speed - AV) for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds (biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds - AV)" - 2 John 9-11. This is THE WORD OF THE LORD.
More about this...
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/shocking_facts_about_benny_hin.html
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This is a reply to # 403,779Yes, it appears they have much in common. Read the links from Toonces and search out much information on the web. Pope Paul stood for life of the unborn, moral living and much more, which was good, no one argues that.
In my study this morning, Be Mature, a study on James by Warren Wiersbe he states we ca be strong and mature only when we know God's Word. And only able to stand against liars when we know God's Word. Spiritual maturity comes from trials and we can only stand firm in those trials when we know God's Word thusly having a strong relationship with God. James tells us to count it all joy as we endure our trials. We are not able to endure unless we know God's Word. I share this to encourage you all in knowing the Truth of God's Word then and only then can we know when we see or hear untruth. Don't be duped by false prophets and teachers stand strong in these last days.
Be blessed as you follow Jesus!
Sharon
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