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You asked about the 21 day Water Fasting experience but the message has now be hidden, so I can only respond in this manner.
I did this when I was 19 years old. It really was inspired by Braggs Miracle of Fasting book. I went to So. Calif to complete the fast. Worked in a health food store towards the end but couldn't really do a whole lot because of weakness. I think Bragg's philosphies have been pretty much discontinued and replaced by juice fasting with colonics or enemas. I wouldn't do any type of fast without the latter. If your interested in fasting I would first recommend a thorough colon cleaning(Holistic Horizons is great) and colonics if can and liver cleansing. I wouldn't fast for the sake of fasting before I did the colon and Liver Cleansing first. Then determine if you really need it. Colon and Liver Cleansing are extremely powerful in their own right and no amount of water or juice fasting will make up for that. Even Patricia Bragg won't do long fasts anymore and prefers instead to fast 3 days a month. Beyond 20 or so days your getting into the spiritual even though obviously it's very physical too. I stopped any serious fasting in my early 20's. But if your bound and determined to fast I would go no more than 10 days and go from there. You could, ala Bragg fast 10 days 3-4 times a year, but again unless your serious about colon, Liver Cleansing and diet it's a waste of time or worse.
Bottom line is that I never really achieved what Bragg claimed he had, and I think there was a lot more to his lifestlye that contributed to it. I mean, he was living his dream and blazing a trail without any competition. So basically, I think you have to really, really be careful about applying a guru's philosophy's to your own life. In other words, I was really disappointed in his teachings in the end, I fasted, I did the exercises, I did the food thing, but never really achieved that tireless, painless, ageless body he always preached about. Although maybe it's still possible... ;)
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This is a reply to # 396,450If you read Paul Bragg's book, you don't comprehend much of what you read.
He alway's said the shorter fasts were the best, and if you wanted to do a longer fast for a particular reason once or twice a year to go ahead if you were trying to accomplish something.
He also stressed that you should never jump into a long fast until you felt comfortable with the shorter fasts first and acclimated your body to fasting first.
He stated the best fasts were a 24 to 36 hr fast once a week, a 72 hour fast once a month, and a 5 to 7 day fast once every season.
I also did a 21 day water fast. Unlike you, after the 5th day I had an enormous amount of energy. I did 8 to 10 hrs of heavy work on the freight docks and driving a freight truck. When I got home, I would run 2 1/2 to 3 miles at a 7 minute mile. I was like the enrgizer bunny.
I think the difference between the way we each felt was do to the fact that I did many 24 to 36 hr fast and a lot of 72 hr fasts and 5 day fasts before I attempted the 21 day fast. I believe the toxins were cleaned out of my body. something you can't rush. The reason I say this is because I lately did a 28 day fast without doing the smaller ones first, and I had the same reaction that you did. Plus I was 30 years older.
Concerning FIR, You also haven't done your homework. They are not supposed to be hot like a regular "rock" sauna, or a "steam" sauna. The infrared heats you rather than the air so the
penetration is over one and a half inches deep. This is desirable for healing tissue and releasing toxins. Meanwhile, the air temperature is kept at a comfortable and controllable level—110 to 120 degrees versus 130 to 180 degrees in a conventional sauna
The health part of FIR (Far-Infrared-Sauna) comes from the wave length of 05 to 15 microns that causes the water in your body (66%)to vibrate and give up the toxins. Coupled with drinking lots of Alkaline Water this loosens and flushes the toxins out of your body. Also you should exercise.
You should get to know your FIR (Far-Infrared-Sauna) sauna again.
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- Re: To goat(21 day water fast?) thaddeus
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This is a reply to # 396,454Yup, read most all of Braggs book and yup, did many short fasts and yup, did many longer fasts on distilled water only. Your reading way too much into my post which is basically stay away from Water Fasting and any fasting without colon and Liver Cleansing first. Then an individual can determine the why's and wherefore's of their fasting lifestyle after much experience. On the 21 day fast I was weak at the end, never said in the beginning. Also, I was honest about trying Bragg's lifestyle but never achieving his stated slogan of "painless, tireless, ageless body". From what I gather neither did you. Also I never instructed anyone to start out with a longer fast just stated that I would not recommend going more than 10 days on water alone and certainly not without other forms of cleansing first. And another important point regarding fasting is that juice fasting achieves the same benefits without near as much strain(as also mentioned in passing). In fact, many newbies use juice type fasting with mineral broths combined with colonics or colema boards and report doing great on longer fasts. As you know,the Fasting Debate rages on.
In 2001 I completed all of the Richard Anderson's cleanse spending 22 days on the Master phase, eliminating huge amounts of MP and being tireless during the process, working my normal 10 hour day. That was at least 25 years post my Bragg experiences, unlike you who stated didn't do so well 30 years later. I think we can all gain something from everyone trials, and although I won't go into detail about the RA cleanse, good or bad, all experiences are valuable for learning.
Some guru bubble bursting info can be had on Chet Days's site, where I learned about Braggs fondness for animal protein, much more than his stated "my body telegraphs me when it needs meat" rhetoric.
Regarding FIR, again it's FIR (Far-Infrared-Sauna) with sauna not just FIR (Far-Infrared-Sauna) with any device. It's also a huge amount of information put out by a equally huge marketing machine for expensive saunas that in no way ever started with sauna. Common sense will indicate that in order to heat an area the size of a closet or small room is going to take a lot of heat and not just FIR. Why do you think HTE sells the hothouse unit and other smaller units abound. As one poster stated, there's possibly cheaper and equally satisfactory way, I don't know. He seemed very experienced and stated he no longer uses his Healthmate either - go ask him. Maybe it's a bad manufacturing job, don't know.
Regarding my FIR (Far-Infrared-Sauna) sauna use, yes I understand, extrapolating that my going up to 140 degrees at times means I don't use it properly is your spin. I'm sure the devices are much better today then they were when I purchased the Healthmate 5-6 years ago, but I'm also convinced that a handheld FIR device, is cheaper, more effective and is cost-effective to upgrade in the long run. In your view because I don't think FIR sauna has been proven at a level that matches the marketing machine, nor based on personal experience is any better or worse than conventional hot therapies I must not be doing it right or reading the "correct" literature is again, shooting the messenger. Like another poster who cut and pasted all the standard market literature and many un-controlled studies, it does little to help an uninformed individual make the right choice.
I've got a sauna manufactured at least 5-6 years ago, in technology world that's ancient, but back then there wasn't anything else.
<Alkaline Water this loosens and flushes the toxins out of your body>>
How many ways are there to releases deep toxins - many and many are just as effective if not more so than FIR sauna. The volume of FIR devices sold would not be the sauna units, but more the handhelds, mats, and the HTE type hothouse, which aren't designed as sweat machines. The whole FIR sauna and toxin issue is highly debatable subject, I'm sure it release many toxins, but so does any sauna and hot therapy in general.
Thanks for sharing and good luck to you and your health odyssey!
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This is a reply to # 396,460Bragg never claimed he never ate animal protein. In fact he refused to tell anyone exactly what he ate. I followed Bragg for over 40 years. Yes, I eat animal protein. So what? Further, if following Bragg gets me to 95 healthy enough to drown while body surfing I'll go for it. I'm 60+ and surf myself.
I suggest you update yourself on fasting Science by reading Fuhrman, Fasting and Eating to Live.
I do however support your freedom to express yourself. I too have been unjustly labeled a "troll" by grogg, or however he spells his name, who as far as I can tell has unlimited time to go on every board as self-appointed censor.
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