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Hi everyone
My lip problem seems to be reversing since starting treatment to correct my bowel imbalance. When I say reversing I mean the skin takes much longer to peel and instead of mostly peeling on its own I have to rip it off but now I find the skin resisting and wanting to stay on. Also the bits that peel have become paper thin instead of thick and crusty. The skin underneath looks much much healthier rather than red and raw. I believe if I stay on my current treatment and diet that it time it will fully reverse. I am now not in a hurry to get better anymore but feel this needs to be done gradually.
The two people that said they would do the stool test, have you guys done it yet or have you changed your mind? I am dying to know whether other people have imbalances in their bowel.
The post that artic monkey did was really good (finally some support for the lip problem being related to the digestive system). He mentioned Chinese medicine supporting the theory. Also I have found the Ayurvedic medicine (antient Indian form of medicine thats also been around for thousands or years) says the lip problem is a symptom of imbalance. There is an Ayurvedic website called http://www.mindxpansion.com that allows you to take a questionaire type thing to find out if you have an imbalance in your system. One of the questions is 'Do you have dry rough lips?'. (OK so they didn't say 'peeling lips' but think about it if the skin becomes dry it will of course have to peel off, I mean the bit that has dried does not rehydrate itself). So it is interesting that Ayurvedic medicine already recognises dry lips as a symptom of imbalance.
Please if you think you problem might be bowel related (which by the way took me years to realise that I had bowel problems as I never used to take much notice of what was going on with my digestive system) I suggest strongly you do the stool test that I did. I would recommend finding a Natropath first and doing the test through them. I can't stand the thought of people paying so much money to skin specialists when the problem is with their bowel.
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- Re: I am getting better kiran24
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MoreThis is a reply to # 376,892hi..so cool..yours are finally going back to normal....
i was going to have the test done but i went to see a derm instead, and now am trying hydrocortisone. do u think if i did the Liver Flush ill cleanse my insides and balance everything out, ill also do a juice detox to cleanse my bowel? my lips only started to peel cos i ripped the skin off and they never healed. were yours really raw when the skin peeled off....mine are so raw that i cant even see any natural grooves lips are supposed to have.- Re: I am getting better Eedbeedee
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This is a reply to # 376,894From what I know about liver flushes, I would definately recommend starting them. I don't think you will have much results from just doing one though as our condition is quite chronic. I think for our condition, if you can cope with it, it would be best to do one every 4-6 weeks. Also, from what Andreas Moritz (Ayurvedic physician on this website) says about this condition, as well as liver and bowel cleansing we also need to change to a more alkaline diet. If you remember in my stool test results, it showed that the ph of my stool was too acidic. I have stopped eating red meat (as this food is highly acid forming). I mostly eat chicken for my protein. Just search on the web for 'acid-forming foods and alkaline foods' as there as plenty of websites which lists which foods are acid-forming and which are alkaline.
Before you start doing a juice detox, I think if you can afford it, do the stool test. This will tell you what specific imbalances you have. For me, since I had abnormally high amounts of yeast, I have gone off all Sugar and fruit (including fruit juices) as yeast thrive on these foods. If you also prove to have high amounts of yeast, I don't know if high juice intake would be beneficial, although if you take vegetable juices such as carrot, then I guess this would be OK. I take vitamin C tablets and eat loads of steamed veges to make sure I'm not missing out on nutrients/fibre from not eating fruit.
Let me know what you decide about the stool test. I don't mean to put pressure on you, it's totally up to you. For me though, I think its the best money I ever spent, especially considering I spent loads more money on skin specialists.
Take care
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thanks for the reply...did your lips look like mayu's..check the Image Gallery ...or did they look like alesiom.... were they raw underneath with no grooves,,and did they heal at all in some places?..... i will get the stool test done in the next few weeks, that is after iv seen a natropath
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This is a reply to # 376,892My intuition tells me it has something to do with the gut. Perhaps, the body is unable to regulate nutrients and waste. For example, if you've ever seen certain vitamin deficiences related to the lips it could be possible that we are unable to get the certain vitamins we need. I am so ecstatic about your results and will be inquiring about the stool test.- Re: WONDERFUL NEWS!!! Eedbeedee
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This is a reply to # 376,899I don't believe it is a vitamin thing. Reiterating what Andreas Moritz (from this website) says, it is do with the cellular turnover rate being too fast than what is normal. He says, because the intestines have become too acidic and irritated, it forces the outer lining of the intestines and the lips (remember the GI track includes the mouth and lips) to be replaced or shed too quickly. My rate seems to be slowing down.
I'm glad you will look in to the stool test. Thank you.
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This is a reply to # 376,909I know its extremely frustrating dealing with this thing and I've been reading for a while w/o writing anything. I'm in the health field and nothing I've tried seems to help, I really don't know or think there is anything that can be done about this. I think all these Liver Flushes etc are a waste of time and money and to the guy who posted saliva may help, it actually hurts. That is how most of us, if not all got this problem. saliva contains digestive enzymes which break down the skin and we're not sure how to get them back to normal- Re: WONDERFUL NEWS!!! Eedbeedee
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If you want to get advice from me about this, I would feel more comfortable if I knew yours was a bowel balance problem like mine. I would suggest you first go on to the http://www.mindxpansion.com site and do the Balance Analysis questions first. It is free and it doesn't take long. Look carefully at all body parts it asks you questions on and answer honestly. If your results show an imbalance, then if you want to find out what specific imbalances you have in your bowel and thus what specific herbs you'll need to kill the bacteria/yeast, I would suggest doing the stool test that I did. Do the test through a Natropath so they can arrange the herbal treatments you'll need. Alternatively if you don't want to do the stool test and you feel your condition is not being helped by any creams, you could go ahead and start liver and bowel cleansing (along with more alkaline diet). This, I believe will gradually reduce the numbers of bad bacteria/yeast and thus decrease irritation to the intestines allowing proper healing to take place.Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 376,909"because the intestines have become too acidic and irritated, it forces the outer lining of the intestines and the lips (remember the GI track includes the mouth and lips) to be replaced or shed too quickly."
I think this is very good information. Do you have any other info on what is going on specifically in our intestines? I am guessing that everybody's intestines are too acidic. Maybe if anybody out there in the world with normal lips was to suddenly tear the top layer off their lips, they would have the same problem as us? This would be because the acidity of the intestines would now have an effect on the healing process of their lips because its all part of the GI track. The acidity would cause the healing to malfunction, i.e the skin being shed to quickly.
However, I'm not convinced that changing our diet is the only thing to get the acid down in our intestines. It seems that all of us have a similar cycle of peeling, which is never aggrivated by acidic foods, it just takes the same number of days to peel. There must be some sort of medication or herbal formula to decrease the acid in our intestines?
I am planning to get a stool sample done. I'm hoping that it reveals the same kind of things that your stool sample did.- Re: WONDERFUL NEWS!!! Eedbeedee
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This is a reply to # 376,925I don't believe other people out there without this problem would have the same problem as us if they ripped their lip skin off.
The stool test said normal ph level of the stool should be between 6 - 7.2 but mine was 5.2
It said in the test 'an acidic pH, below 6.0 is usually reflective of a rapid transit time, eg diarrhea or loose stools. Further investigation as to the cause of diarrhea such as food allergy intolerance, viral, bacterial, parasitic infection, irritable bowel syndrome may be warranted.'
This interests me because Andreas Moritz said the problem was that the intestines had become too acidic. My natropath said my result was too acidic because of the high bacterial (staph) infection. Also, in Andreas' book 'Timeless Secrets of Health and Rejuvenation' he says that a little known fact about 'bile' is that it de-acidifies the intestines. My stool test showed that I had elevated triglycerides in my stool. This relates to the breaking down of fat which is mainly done by bile. To quote from the test "Elevated levels of triglycerides in the stool may indicate a disruption in the digestive mechanisms required for the adequate breakdown and absorbtion of triglycerides, including bile output and lypoltic activity. That is why I am encouraging people to liver cleanse as I think we need to correct our digestion also.
You are right when you say changing our diet is not the only thing that will help our acidity level. When I did the stool test I made sure I was eating mostly alkaline foods so I know that the acidity level in the stool was not to do with eating too much acid-forming foods. Therefore I feel it must be to do with me perhaps not producing enough bile (as Andreas says), and the fact that I have such high staph levels.
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Thanks for the info. Were you specifically tested for bile, triglycerides, staph, and yeast, or is that sort of thing always tested in stool tests? I need to know what sort of things my doctor should be testing for. I might just see if I can be tested for everything since we all might have different causes.
Also, do you know how all the different things relate? Like does the presence of staph increase the triglyceride levels, which then decreases bile, which then increases acidity?
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This is a reply to # 376,969If you want to do the stool test, I would definately suggest you do the one I did (if you can afford it). The one I did is usually done through a Natropath or other alternative healthcare practicioner. I asked my local doctor if they test for staph and yeast in the stool tests they offer and she said no. They only test for things that make you really sick like parasites such as giardia. Maybe your health care system is different to here in New Zealand, and they do test for these things so you would need to ask your doctor. I suspect though that it is probably quite limited compared to the one I did.
The Comprehensive Digestive Stool Analysis is extremely thorough. They test for about 30 different things. Staph, yeast and trygliceride levels are just a few of many different things they test for or analyse.
I don't know exactly how the results relate. All I know is what my Natropath told me about the acidity level being to do with such high staph levels. The trygliceride thing just means that I don't digest fat as well as I could. The worse your digestion is, the easier it is for the bacteria to feed (and thus multiply) on the undigested food particles. Many people do actually have staph in their bowels but in very small amounts whereas mine is extremely high amounts.
Hope this helps.
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