Oww - sore boobs! 
Jennie
20 y
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Hi Shelley/Everyone!
Just wondered if anyone knows what exactly is the cause of swollen, tender breasts leading up to menstruation? I get it *so* badly - its so painful I wake up during the night! It lasts about 2 - 3 days before my period and I am getting *sick* of it!
Does anyone know what causes this? Am I deficient in something? What can I do to help ease it, or get rid of it? I get a lot of PMS in general but this is one thing that is driving me crazy (I can live with the chocolate craving!)
- Re: Oww - sore boobs! shelleycat
20 y
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MoreThis is a reply to # 325,419Any time you have PMS symptoms you need to be doing bowel management of some sort and liver management that includes an herbal complex like Livatone Plus. When the PMS symptoms involve the breasts, you also need to be doing lymph cleansing. Your poor breasts are simply having to do too much! Cleanse everything else and that will take the pressure off. :) The FAQ has many options listed for liver, bowel and lymph cleansing. Do as many as seem right for you. I highly recommend the LIvatone Plus, dry brushing and the occasional enema/colonic and detox bath. :)
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- Jennie/Shelley - sore boobs! Ev
20 y
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MoreThis is a reply to # 325,430Hi! I know what you mean. Do they get lumpy too?
My get very lumpy and sore leading up to menstruation. I was listening to a very interesting radio talk show the other day and there was a dr on talking about females and their horomones. She was saying that 9 times out of ten if a woman is experiencing sore, lumpy boobs as pms symptoms that she is likely not ovulating and has too much estrogen. She suggested trying a natural progesterone cream.
I found it interesting.
Shelley what is your opinion on this dr's theory?- Re: Jennie/Shelley - sore boobs! itslaura
20 y
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This is a reply to # 325,436I definitely agree that it's too much estrogen based on my own experience - but I also think that you have to really work on the bowel and liver for the natural progesterone cream to have an effect. I used the cream for 4-5 months last year and it did nothing to lessen any of my PMS symptoms (breasts, moods, cravings, etc.).
I'm going for Liver Flush #5 tomorrow which I hope will be my breakthrough flush in terms of PMS, because I'm still suffering big time. I hope every flush is the one...hopefully sooner rather than later I'll be right. :)
Laura - Re: Jennie/Shelley - sore boobs! shelleycat
20 y
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This is a reply to # 325,436It definitely has something to do with estrogen dominance, but supplementing with progesterone is not a good plan. The body then makes more estrogen in order to keep the balance so you're right back where you started.
- Re: Jennie/Shelley - sore boobs! itslaura
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- Re: Oww - sore boobs! #25392
20 y
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This is a reply to # 325,430Not sure about this, but I had this several years ago and went to my gynecologist about it - I actually had a small cyst in my breast in addition to the very severe premenstrual breast soreness.
He told me to CUT the CAFFEINE and get more vitamin E in my diet, wait 2 cycles and only come back if it still hurt - and I didn't have to because the soreness stopped.
Anyway, that was my experience.- Hmmn should I avoid photo-oestrogens... Jennie
20 y
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This is a reply to # 325,437Hi shelley/Ev
I thought maybe it would be liver related, seeing as its hormonal. I actually have regular colonics and my therapist said my bowel is in excellent condition! I think my many years of vegetarianism and avoiding bread has probably contributed to that :)
I eat the Liver Cleansing salad regualry - but will look into the other thing you mentioned.
The comments about excess oestrogen have made me query something - I think it is likely that this may be my problem, as I have other symptoms too like Acne etc. Thing is - a nutritionist has got me eating 1tblspn flaxseeds daily, as well as flax oil. I know this is a photo-oestrogen so should I avoid things like this?? Bit confused really!
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Hi shelley/Ev
I thought maybe it would be liver related, seeing as its hormonal. I actually have regular colonics and my therapist said my is in excellent condition! I think my many years of vegetarianism and avoiding bread has probably contributed to that :)
I eat the Liver Cleansing salad regualry - but will look into the other thing you mentioned.
The comments about excess oestrogen have made me query something - I think it is likely that this may be my problem, as I have other symptoms too like Acne etc. Thing is - a nutritionist has got me eating 1tblspn flaxseeds daily, as well as flax oil. I know this is a photo-oestrogen so should I avoid things like this?? Bit confused really!- Re: Hmmn should I avoid photo-oestro... #68716
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- Re: Hmmn should I avoid photo-oestro... Jennie
20 y
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This is a reply to # 325,454Hey Invincible :)
Im going to reply to your email tongith by the way! :)
I thought the same, but then I dont know if it IS oestrogen problem - its just from reading what others here have said. My nutritionist (the natnut one) has told me to take flax every day for EFA's.... hmn.- Re: Hmmn should I avoid photo-oestro... Ev
20 y
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This is a reply to # 325,457I suppose you could always switch to fish oils or borage oil. Lets see what Shelly has to say.
- Re: Hmmn should I avoid photo-oestro... boronia
20 y
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This is a reply to # 325,457Hi Jennie :)
Yes our nutrition tutors tell us the same thing, to eat flax, and though I know it's a very good oil, there is the oestrogen factor which they've never mentioned to us!
I'm sure Shelley says that if you take it with other oils like in Udo's then it would less of an estrogenic effect, though having said that Udo's has evening primrose oil in it which I hear is also estrogenic! How confusing!
I normally take borage oil. It's Biocare's high GLA (about 700mg) with vitamin E and lecithin and I find that helps.
Perhaps taking a tablespoon of flaxseeds a day wouldn't affect estrogen levels too much and if you keep up with liver and bowel cleansing that should help too.
Have a good weekend!
Anne- Thanks Anne Jennie
20 y
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This is a reply to # 325,468Yeah - the more I read on excess estrogen the more I think I may have it. I will look in to borage oil, definatley. I have read that you should not take more than one oil at the same time... so I am a bit wary about mixing them.
It is SO confusing though, as there is so much conflicting information out there. The practioner I saw told me to avoid ALL other fats, including coconut oil........ aaaaaaaaagh!!
- Thanks Anne Jennie
20 y
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- Re: Hmmn should I avoid photo-oestro... shelleycat
20 y
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This is a reply to # 325,457There are other non-estrogenic sources of EFA's. You can mix coconut oil, borage and black currant. Or get a Flax oil that is mixed with Borage so it's not so estrogenic. Fish oil is fantastic, look for a bottle that emphasizes Omega 3's.
- Thanks Shelley - will do that! Jennie 20 y 2,381
- Re: Hmmn should I avoid photo-oestro... Ev
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- Re: Hmmn should I avoid photo-oestro... Jennie
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- Re: Hmmn should I avoid photo-oestro... #68716
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- Hmmn should I avoid photo-oestrogens... Jennie
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- Jennie/Shelley - sore boobs! Ev
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- Re: Oww - sore boobs! mooney
20 y
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This is a reply to # 325,419Hi Jennie if your problems are due to an estrogen dominence you could try Vitex this is an herb that balance hormones. Progetrone cream seems to work for a lot of people with estrogen dominence but it made my symptoms worse. I have found some relife with Vitex, Chinese bitters and bowel cleansing. If you do decided to try the Vitex you must know that it is slow acting because it is a herb. It may take a bit of time to kick in, the other thing is to take it in tincture form if you can get it because the tea tastes truely awful! Good Luck...Moonie
- Moonie Jennie
20 y
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This is a reply to # 325,484Thanks Moonie - I have thought about taking Vitex before. The thing is - isn't it just like taking medication in some ways? I mean - I am assuming you will have to continue to take the herb forever? Hmmn..... I am not sure if it IS oestrogen dominance, maybe I should get my hormone levels checked...
Thanks for your help anyway! x
- Moonie Jennie
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- Re: Oww - sore boobs! shelleycat
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