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Hi, this is a long post detailing what I have tried please help
I self diagnosed myself with candida, because my doctor told me their was nothing wrong with me.
I first tried Threelac which did nothing.
Then I took Yeast Raiders from holland & barrett, they contain biotin, C, Zinc, selenium, acidophilus, barberry, caprylic acid, fibre, garlic, ginger, pau d'arco, echinecea, goldenseal. NOW i started to get rid of the brain fog, I had no die-off. I found reading on the net that the ingredients were in too small quantities, so I tried buying each seperately which I will detail later.
Because my doctor said there was nothing wrong with me for over 7 years and gave me HIGH DOSE ANTI-BIOTICS to treat my symptoms. I thought it would be wise to tell him that ive been taking Yeast Raiders and they are working and the anti-biotics just made me worse. Well lucky for him he was on holiday and I got to see a woman doctor who recognised my symptoms was candida right away and gave me Diflucan which gave me diahorrea, but didnt work.
I was recommended to read a book Eat Right 4 Your Blood Type and I read alot about diets for candida online.
So now ive avoided all Sugar foods in my diet, ive cut down on all carbohydrates. no fruit, sugar, sweets, potatoes, pasta, rice, milk, cheese, bread. I mostly just eat salads, chicken, vegtables and drink plenty of water.
The supplements ive been taking for the past 2-3 months and are now mostly ran out where:
Nettle Root 400mg 4 daily
Elecampane 300mg 4 daily
Astragalus 475mg 4 daily
Caprylic Acid 350mg 4 daily
Betaine Hydrochloride 325mg 1 daily
Oregon Grape 350mg 4 daily
Garlic Oil 5000mg 2 daily
B Complex 100mg 5 daily
Olive Leaf Extract 225mg 4 daily
Oil of Peppermint 200mg 2 daily
Pau D'arco 2500mg 8-10 daily!!!!!!!
Oil of Oregano 12 drops daily
Holy Basil 450mg 2 daily
Gentian Bitters 1 daily
Probiotic 25 Billion 10 daily!!!!!
biotin 1000mg 10 daily!!!
I still havent had any die-off and my most visual symptom is my yellow tongue which although its easier to scrape off with a tongue clear now, its still their. YES all those supplements have eased my symptoms, but considering the amount I was taking and its still not enough.
I was thinking of buying the following:
Garden of Life Fungal Defense
Garden of Life Perfect Food
Garden of Life Primal Defense HSO Probiotic
Holy Basil (lowers blood Sugar levels, good for skin)
Biotin 5000mg
Should I bother buying the above items, or does anyone know of anything stronger than what ive been taking.
Thanks for any help.
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- Re: Nothings working, suggestions? remi96
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This is a reply to # 302,846first off - thanks to all of you for such a great forum - it has been so educational!! just a quick summary of my current battle: what prompted me to start this journey was severe nasal congestion on the right side of my nose for about 18 months now that Antibiotics , and a host of other remedies, including saline flushes wouldn't help... so, i've been working on what i think are either fungal or parasite issures via caprylic acid (4 weeks) and parastroy (2 weeks), and i've been doing bowel cleansing and just finished my 3rd Liver-Flush - i am AMAZED at the number and size of stones i am passing - i am blown away by how congested my liver must be... i am carfeul to take priobiotics after the flushes to reintroduce the good ones to my colon... i do feel relief from my treaments, but i'm definitely not back to normal yet.
anyway, i've been feeling a lot of tenderness in the glands on the side of my neck for about the last 10 days, and i can't figure out if it's die off, or maybe i have leaky gut and the probiotics are causing the glands to get irritated or what (i've been taking about 4000 mg l-glutamine for about a week)... i just want to make sure i'm not hindering my progress by leaving out an important step....
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- Re: Nothings working, suggestions? Topper
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Bloated when I eat.
Headaches everyday.
Fatigue, I can sometimes sleep for 12 hours and still feel tired.
Need to sleep after any exercise.
Depression and mood swings.
Anxiety.
Muscle twitching.
Diarrhea, but I only have a bowel movement every 3 days.
Cant gain weight, even with bodybuilder weight gain shakes.
Oral Thrush - Yellow coating on my tongue, Geographic tongue.
Itchy testicle sack.
Sore throat.
Cysts and acne.
Always get any seasonal colds, flu's or even caught any ailments from family members that I always get first.
Problem concentrating.
No interest in sex.
While taking the large list of supplements in my first post, most of the symptoms either go away or lessin.
The diarrhea is still their but bowel movements are everyday or more.
My testicle sack isnt 'as' itchy.
My Acne goes away quite a bit (im 25 it isnt hormonal anymore).
I didnt get any of the colds or flu's that everyone else I know got.
My work has improved (dotnet developer).
Got back my interest in sex.
Dont know if I could gain weight (low carb diet for candida).
I only need 6-8 hours sleep now, and I feel brillant after.
No longer depressed.
No more sore throat.
Muscle twitching gone (didnt have it often).
Anxiety not as bad.
No headaches.
No bloating after I eat, as long as I dont eat pasta, rice or potatoes.
I have the same energy from when I wake up until I go to bed.
I joined a gym 5 months ago, I could run 1 mile and a little weight workout and be extremely tired and need to sleep after. Since starting the supplements, every week I increased my workout to the point where. Within 4 weeks I can jog 5 miles and do a heavy weight workout for 2 hours and still have plenty of energy for the rest of the day.
I know the supplements work, but their not enough. My improvements reached a plateau within 5 weeks and some symptoms still remained for the months ive been treating them.
The symptoms that remained were, geographic tongue, itchy testicle sack, acne, diarrhea.
Since I have been running out of the supplements (they cost alot!) all my symptoms are gradually coming back, fatigue, depression, acne.- Re: Nothings working, suggestions? remi96
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This is a reply to # 302,855Okay bloated can be die off or candida. In your case I think it very well might be candida.
Headaches , depression, anxiety, muscle twitches is a magnesium deficiency
Diarrhea most likely from inbalance of bacteria in your intestine
Sore throat most likely from sinuses whihc frequently become infected when one has candida
thrush...a dead give away
poor immune system...typical of a candida sufferer
Acne cysts poor concentration...toxins in the body caused by candida
The supplements you take I am not certain will work much against candida. Protein shakes are a bad idea, protein is full of acids which feed candida and I would bet there is some form of Sugar in it. Protein does not really help one gain weight anyway. it helps gain muscle and bulk. To gain weight carbs are what does it. Carbs are a no no on a candida diet so many have the weight issue you speak of. However, buckwheat is supposedly okay on a candida diet. I gained back some weight by eating buckwheat pancakes every night before bed.
Now what I would recommend you do is 1.) get a good multi vitamin 2.) get some extra calcium magnesium and vit c. 3.) add some concentrace liquid minerals to your water 4.) eat lots of raw veggies salads etc to alkanize your body which will kill off yeast 5.) take a good probiotic 6.)pick a good antifungal like garlic, caprylic acid, Grapefruit-Seed-Extract etc and stay on it. Gewt some exercise, trampoline is great as it helps the body get rid of toxins. that is all you need to do.
The myriad of herbs you are taking might be making you feel different while taking them, it could only be masking the symptoms as it does not seem to be fixing the problem.
Michelle
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- Re: Nothings working, suggestions? Sinister
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I've done urine therapy and I think I'm cured (i say "think" because I don't want to jinx myself). I feel better then I've ever felt in my entire life. When your sick and desperate you'll try anything. My health and life was worth it.- Re: Nothings working, suggestions? Topper
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This is a reply to # 302,851Thats good to hear I know the feeling sort of.
I felt better rather quickly with the supplements and diet.
Even people I knew were saying 'your looking well' because I always felt and looked 'sick'
The supplements were very expensive, I hope someone can give me some advice on the next step. So I dont waste alot of money when theirs a better solution.
I am desperate, i was thinking of colonic irrigation even, but I think its expensive.- Re: Nothings working, suggestions? bemmer
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This is a reply to # 302,856hi i am in the same boat and have finally narrowed down underlining factors. i have a nasty parasite and high in metals, i also so have gallstones.
you may need to go on the same search as they all link togher and you need to work on your body as a whole. check out liver flushing, bowel cleansing, and definatly liver support such as livertone or milk thistle. you wont get better if you are only having one bowel motion every three days all that food is fermenting in your bowels and the candida and parasites(which u will prob have) are having a feild day. also get some basic blood work done if you havnt already it normally comes back fine but just in case.
i am currently chelating heavy metals out with natural product and a re exploring getting treated by a herbilist who is well known. find yourself a natropath or someone who will be able to support you its hard doing it by yourself. - Re: Nothings working, suggestions? #48820
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Topper-
I am not an expert by any means, but I have been helped a lot by trying Moreless' suggestions on the Alkaline/Acid Forum. I too spent hundreds (no thousands, over the years) on supplements to no avail. Since using some of Moreless' suggestions (detox bath, blackstrap molasses with ACV and kelp drink, Epsom Salts , etc.) I have improved. People have been telling me that I look better, too (because I always looked sick and bloated, especially in the face.) In fact, I was getting wrinkles prematurely because my face was puffed out all the time and stretching the skin. I am also using Candex and Primal Defense probiotics, and no other antifungals because it seemed like they weren't doing any good. Moreless' suggestions have helped me more than anything else! I also do colonics, and yes they are expensive. I know they do help, but they didn't come close to curing me until I did the alkalizing stuff. I did notice with the colonics that my eyes are much clearer afterward (less bloodshot and yellowed) and I lost 7 pound after the first series. (I'm now too skinny, but what can you do?)
Good luck,
Queta- Re: Nothings working, suggestions? Wood Elf
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This is a reply to # 302,858I would highly recommend alkalising (or balancing PH), as previously suggested. Also you cant put a price on health and (if done right) colonics can wash away years of toxic ridden impacted waste matter. I own a colema board - for around 200 you can have a colonic whenever you like. You can then also add useful ingredients to the water and end up clearing/passing mucoid plaque and/or candida.
Candida hates O2. In todays lifestyle most people are lacking. Therefore H202 drops or ozonated water is very helpful (and alkalising).
Liver Flush - Chinese medicine call the liver (when refering to all of the body/organs) the 'Chief of staff'. This is because it is involved in so much various vital functioning. Most peoples liver are horribly blocked. Flushing the stones out is quite an uplifting experience, on all levels. I've now (to my surprise) done 7, with the 8th due this w/e. I'll happily keep going til I have 2 stone free results in a row.
Rotate anti fungals, dont hammer every one at once (as I once did!).
Candida isnt about war, its about balance.
Do you cheat on the diet?
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Thanks Queta and Wood Elf, I will look into all your suggestions.
I have bought some PH testing papers from ebay.
I was actually trying to find a place that did colonics, in my search I came across a woman that told me about the book 'eat right 4 your blood type'. She said it would be a good idea to try out this book before trying expensive colonics, atleast her advice helped me that little bit further.
I have just won Garden of Life Fungal Defense from ebay for a low price, I will try these while studying/learning/buying the items you both have suggested.
My problem is probably I didnt rotate the anti-fungals, in my haste to rid myself of this I took each one as soon as they were delivered to my door.
Also a confession, yes I did cheat. Ive had this since I took the first anti-biotics for my Acne (around 16). After 'curing' some of symptoms I felt I could start 'living' again so I went out drinking with mates.
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- Re: Nothings working, suggestions? #48820
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This is a reply to # 302,882Hi
Look at Moreless' postings about Candida and Blackstrap Molasses on the Alkaline/Acidic Forum. A lot of people have asked that same question. According to him, adding the Apple Cider Vinegar or Lemon to the Molasses makes it okay for candida. I don't know all the technical stuff, but it definitely seems to be helping me.
Queta
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- Your Liver might b congested San2006
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This is a reply to # 302,846Hi :
Educate yourself about LIVER FLUSHING. It is extreme ( IN that u drink 1/2 cup Olive Oil), but looks like your liver is congested.
Take the bold step of flushing. I have been in your boat. For months I wasted my time,money thinking I have Candida. Started cutting all carbs and fruits. Made be very weak and mineral deficient.
I have flushed just once and noticed a difference. I am gonna continue flushing, till I am clean and symptom free. It was very hard to make the decision of flushing. But anyone, who thinks they have Candida, should do Liver Flushes.
Just my 2 cents. Always keep your options open. Never say never. Thats what I have learnt when I began my journey of ill-health.
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- Coincidence Wood Elf
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This is a reply to # 302,859Coincidental that 2 of us posted a iver suggestion at roughly the same time.
- Re: Your Liver might b congested serene_tea
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This is a reply to # 302,859I have come to the conclusion that Liver Flushing helps almost everything and a congested liver/gallbladder is the most common western ailment that creates other chronic conditions. It's helped me with allergies, Candida (and Candida allergy), hypothyroid & of couse gallstones.
My doctor said if you don't see dramatic improvement from an anti-Candida diet and protocols, then something else is going on. I do know the low body temp of hypothyroid made it hard for me to clear Candida until I corrected that issues. Also there could be a secondary issue that is creating a good environment for the Candida. I do think Liver Flushing is a great place to start
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- Re: Nothings working, suggestions? evanluck
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This is a reply to # 302,846Dear Topper,
First of all I totally know how you feel. There are so many supplement recommendations and everything can get very expensive. A break through for me happened when I came across postings by moreless that talk about candida not as a problem but as a symptom of an overly acidic body PH. Candida overgrowth was actually my body's attempt to akalyze itself. Fighting against my body by taking anti-candida supplements or trying to "starve" the candida with an anti-candida diet was not helping me.
I realized that if I balanced my body PH my candida problem would take care of itself. I am about two months into moreless' recommended regimin and I feel great. 90% of my symptoms are gone and best of all, it is simple and inexpensive. Moreless' is focused on reducing the acidity of your body PH by giving your body lots of minerals to neutralize the excess acids in your body.
So how do you get started? First of all buy some PH tape or strip to measure your body PH. Start with measuring your saliva and urine first thing in the morning. Your urine will give you an idea of the current PH of your body while your saliva speaks to the amount of mineral reserves that you have (in a way the future PH of your body).
Here is a link to a post by moreless that summarizes his recommendations. Also Invincible has put together alot of moreless' information in this blog: http://curezone.com/blogs/f.asp?f=722.
Start hanging around the Akaline/Acid forum. If you are diligent about learning this information, it will help you and the cost will be much less than what you've been doing.
God Bless you and guide you on your way to better health,
EvanAdvertisement
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This is a reply to # 302,846You might also think about pulling back or eliminating some of the antifungals. If your liver cannot detoxify waste from the dead candida as fast as it is accumulating, you will become toxic, and since candida feeds on toxins, you can end up going around in circles. I totally overdid antifungals, and now liver has a hard time. A few well-thought-out supps work way better than a barrage of everything, which can overwhelm our already compromised systems. Also, the HCL should be taken at each meal to be effective. One thing that seems to be working very well for me is colostrum. It helps to heal leaky gut. Part of the reason we react to foods is leaky gut, caused by candida fungus borrowing through stomach walls and creating holes, so protein molecules that normally would not hit the bloodstream (would just stay in the digestive tract) wind up in it, and that launches a histamine attack. Another thing, when taking probiotics, an empty stomach is key - hard to get an empty stomach 10 times a day! That seems pretty excessive.
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