Left (upper)eyelid twitching 
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Hi people,
It's me again. I wanted to get some thoughts on something that has occured lately. Since 4 weeks I started using Iodine again and I am amazed at how much sskki I can tolerate now (like approx 100mg daily). I use:
- 12.5mg daily (3 times a week)
- and on 2 days I use 100mg of SSKI and 1800 mcg of nascent iodine. It's a pretty hefty dose for me. I do all the companion nutrients, salt pushes (regurlary but maybe not often enough) etc. (I posted some other topics, where I use alot of supplements)
However, these is just 1 problem that has occured lately: my left eyelid is twitching sometimes and it's a bit heavier then I experienced before. It's just a sudden twitch, but doesn't happen all day long. It just comes and goes, but I'm almost positive that it came after I started Iodine again, because prior to that I continued to use all of the other supplements. The only thing I changed right now is:
- 12.5mg daily = 1 iodoral tablet (3 times a week)
- 100mg Iodide (4 drops SSKI = 4 x 25mg) and 1800 mcg nascent Iodine (3 drops nascent iodine = 3 x 600mcg)
2 times a week
- 2 days off while continuing the companion nutrients.
I just wonder, why do I experience these symptoms? Could anyone take a guess?
Thank you in advance,
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- Re: Left (upper)eyelid twitching lolwow
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This is a reply to # 2,355,921This is caused by LOW MAGNESIUM. You may have to switch to a different form which is better absorbed. Which form of magnesium are you taking?
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This is a reply to # 2,355,956Thanks for responding,
It's so weird though. I am so sure that I get at least 400mg of magnesium daily, but I also work out heavily. On those days, I also apply topical magnesium oil. I take bigger doses orally and that would put me at 800-1000mg total (only on heavy workout days). The complex I am using right now is from Innate (http://eu.iherb.com/pr/Innate-Response-Formulas-Magnesium-300-Powder-4-7-oz-132-g/64716). U can find the info in the link, it's a blend of citrate, malate and glyicate.
Before this brand, I used the it's NOW one (used glycinate, but didn't like that one, so mainly citrate). Got some laxative effects on higher doses.
Would a permanent Malate form be a good one? I can get one like this: https://www.seekinghealth.com/magnesium-malate-100-servings
It's malate, so it might be less laxative and it has 500mg per serving. 100 doses per bottle, seems like a good deal right?? I don't know whether malate is a good source though, I read it was but could u confirm this for me?
Thanks again,
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This is a reply to # 2,356,021If you are using topical magnesium oil and taking 400mg magnesium per day, the only thing I can assume is that you are working out too hard or the 400mg magnesium you're taking isn't well absorbed (though a blend of citrate/glycinate/malate should be pretty good). When I had the worst eyelid twitching of my life, I was taking 400-800mg Magnesium Glycinate per day. But once I started using Magnesium Oil topically it went away, so it's weird to me you have the twitching and also use magnesium oil!
If you want to truly find out if your problem is caused by mangesium, I would recommend Remag:
https://www.rnareset.com/products/remag-magnesium-solution?variant=13899661319
It has really good absorption, it's just expensive.
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This is a reply to # 2,356,102Thanks again for replying,
I do have to mention that I did have crazy long days in the gym (sometimes 2-3 hours) but I don't do it that often anymore, because I know 1 hours is enough and more may even decline in results. However, I did switch to another brand. Maybe I need to switch again and see what happens.
I ONLY apply topical magnesium on workout days, and even when I do: it's only approx 300-450mg that I spray on the body. The rest of the magnesium I further supply with supplements and food. That would put me at 800-1000mg for that day.
Lately I may have been more sloppy and only went for 600-700 a day, I don't know. I do know that when I started Iodine again, for some reason I experience these symptoms. Don't get me wrong though, I do not "blaim iodine", since it has given me very good results but I think it may even push the body further in the need of magnesium. Just a theory and again, I don't know for sure. Anyhow, I'll try and get that magnesium u mentioned, but would the magnesium I put in the link also be a good contender? It's malate, isn't malate a bit better then citrate in terms of absorption and side effects (such as loose stools), could u perhaps help me out on that?
Thanks alot, I really appreciate the help.
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This is a reply to # 2,356,152Magnesium malate is a good form, but I can't use it before bed. Magnesium citrate is good for me then, though some people use magnesium taurate or glycinate before bed. My bowel tolerates malate slightly better than citrate. So far, ReMag is on the form that gave me absolutely no bowel problems. Even magnesium bicarbonate, called "magnesium water," which you get by mixing Milk of Magnesia into seltzer water and which is not supposed to affect the bowel, ultimately does affect my bowel.
So you push all the magnesium forms til the stool is very soft and no further. Sometimes what you eat will then cause more firmness or looseness, but you always have a center to go back to.- Re: Left (upper)eyelid twitching InsomniaBro
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This is a reply to # 2,356,248Thanks JT,
Could I perhaps ask why u can't tolerate Malate before bedtime, is it because it gives u energy/keeps u awake or something else?
I'll definitely give the ReMag a go, because after u and lolwow responded, I decided to go higher with the magnesiumcomplex.
For the past couple of days I went as far as 1000mg, and even though the twitching isn't completely gone, it's certainly less often occuring.
I assume we push the magnesium until loose stool happens (because that is the symptom of having reached the limit/overdose/nearly near that) but make sure we get well saturated enough with the magnesium??
Thanks again, u people really helped me out tremendously!
Greetings from the Netherlands,
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This is a reply to # 2,356,423Exactly. The malate form feels good for energy in the day, and for me that doesn't translate well at bedtime.
With the exception of ReMag, all the forms of magnesium have an upper tolerance due to effect on the bowel. Also, whatever magnesium is associated with, such as taurate, malate, citrate, sulfate, and oxide, works well or not according to the person's metabolism. Taurate and sulfate don't feel good to me, for instance, and oxide runs right through me.
With ReMag, start low and raise carefully. It is powerful. To fully replenish your magnesium stores, you'd need 2-3 tsp if used by itself. Consider splitting the doses into two per day.
The gold standard for measuring magnesium is to have a blood sample taken for red blood cell content of magnesium, or RBC Magnesium. The optimal level is 6.0-6.8 mg/dL. It takes at least 3 months to see a change.- Re: Left (upper)eyelid twitching InsomniaBro
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This is a reply to # 2,356,596Thanks JT,
I will have some bloodworks (regarding magnesium levels) soon. For now, I'll see how far I come with those supps.- Re: Left (upper)eyelid twitching InsomniaBro
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This is a reply to # 2,356,787Hi,
Small update: the eyelid twitching still continues (and sometimes is hefty), yet it only occurs on the left (upper) eyelid. I am supplementing heavy on the magnesium and I also spray more topically. Shouldn't take long before I get ReMag here.
However, could potassium also have a relation to the twitching? As I know that I am not getting enough potassium, period (it's one of the nutrients I cannot get enough of right now).
I was thinking of getting potassium-capsules (which I can only get through prescription) but each capsule contains 500mg of potassium.
Could it also be because of detox symptoms that still go on (how long can detox symptoms take, longer then a couple of weeks/months)? Is temporarily stopping Iodine a good idea, to make sure whether it's the detox symptoms or not?
I started the Iodine again (before that I used it in november/december last year) 3 weeks ago and only on thursdays and fridays I go as high as 100mg Iodide and 3 drops of nascent Iodine (= 1800mcg). Saturday and sundays I don't take anything, because I'd rather pulse dose for now. Monday to Wednesday, I use 12.5mg of iodine/iodide in the form of Iodoral. Ofcourse, I still take all of the companion nutrients.
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This is a reply to # 2,357,665Unfortunately, I don't know any specific help for eyelid twitch. If you haven't already seen this, read WebMD for some suggestions. As you already know, persistent eyelid twitch can be difficult to figure out :(
http://www.webmd.com/eye-health/why-your-eyes-twitch#1
I don't consider WebMD to be definitive, but from time to time it has given me ideas for an approach to a problem.
Also, a quick search of our forum netted this:
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1110386#i
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This is a reply to # 2,357,756Thanks JT,
I went so fine with the protocol I followed for such a long time. I guess it's normal to bump into problems now and then. I just need to figure out where it comes from, it can be anywhere from the flu I just got or the heavy exercising I am still pulling of. Anyhow, I'll try and find the cause by reverse engineering and trying out some potassium too.
I read, dry eyes can also trigger eye-lid twitching. I do have some dry eyes, but I had that a long time (so it would be odd if I just happen to have it since 3 weeks and not since the time I had dry eyes). The dry eyes btw, are nowhere near as bad as they used to be, I think vitamin A, Fish oil, magnesium or even Iodine did help alot with it. I cannot say what helped, but something certainly did.- Re: Left (upper)eyelid twitching lolwow
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This is a reply to # 2,357,782It could be potassium. I would try that if Remag doesn't solve the problem. I literally had the same issue -- left eyelid and everything, WHILE TAKING MAGNESIUM. It wasn't until I found a form of magnesium that actually worked that the twitching went away.
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This is a reply to # 2,355,921I used to have eyelid twitching too. It was so annoying!! I bought a lavender filled eye pillow to put over my eyes to stop it and that helped. I also used massage, deep breathing and relaxation. I have used Piping Rock Magnesium flakes (Chloride) in the 2.5 lb size from the ancient Netherland Zechstein Seabed. You can make you own magnesium oil from the flakes and it wont cost any more. I can't say if any of this fixed my twitching, but it went away eventually. good luck. stress can be a factor.
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This is a reply to # 2,357,792Thanks Raven,
It's certainly bugging me out right now. Luckily, I live in the Netherlands. I'll head out and buy some magnesium flakes and make a spray of my own. I now use pre-made bottles, which is quite expensive when u compare it to making it yourself.
I'll give this a bit more time then and see how it goes. - Re: Left (upper)eyelid twitching stephaniefromgnv
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This is a reply to # 2,357,792Try adding potassium to the magnesium.
Potassium causes twitching also.
There's some kind of ratio too. But I know that too much potassium can be dangerous.
I would also research the co-factors of magnesium if you're taking that much. I know b6 and b12 is part of the mix.
Finally, one poster here said that he doesn't see essential fatty acids mentioned as a co-factor to the Iodine protocol and they are very important. Have to look up the link, I think I saved it. Fatty acids, among other things, form the myelin sheath around nerves.
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