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Hi. I am not good with computers and don't know if i can get back into this forum, so if you could email me at myunrecognizableemailaccount@gmail.com I would appreciate it SO MUCH...
O.K. so I'm on the Master-Cleanse fast, and first of all, the saltwater flush doesn't work on me. I use 1 quart of warm water and 2 tsp not-iodized, way-too-expensive, fancy, hoity-toity, "natural" Sea Salt , and wait 3 hours, and NOTHING, not so much as a mild cramp or urge. The next day, I try it with more water. Nothing. The next day, more salt. Nothing.
I see that there is a little Iodine in the salt, which is naturally occurring. The salt comes from an ancient sea bed in Utah. So, I imagine the Iodine is the reason the treatment doesn't work. So, I go out and buy another small glass jar of salt for another five bucks (five bucks for SALT!!!) of a DIFFERENT kind of overcelebrated, overpriced damn Sea Salt . This time, Atlantic Sea Salt . No iodine. All natural, not-screwed-with, just evaporated sea. IT DOESN'T WORK EITHER.
What produces bowel movements is laxative tea, but it only produces either the reccommended amount of bowel movements WITH EXTREME DURESS - diarrhea, cramping, misery - things Burroughs names as contra-indications (or as indications you should stop what you're doing) or - since I tried drinking 1/3 cup of tea at a time, bowel movements only once every other day or less. If I drink enough tea to produce any more than that, the side-problems (cramping, gas, misery, uncontrollable spurting) occur.
What I think is that the laxative teas on the market today are WAY different than in the 50's when the book was written. Today's laxative teas are STRONG, DANGEROUS DRUGS. You might as well be taking ex-lax, in my opinion. I knew a bulimic girl who ruined her colon and needed a colostome bag because she abused laxative tea and nothing else. That's right - JUST TEA is THAT DANGEROUS. Besides, the teas of today have warnings all over them - "do not use for more than 7 days in a row" "if diarrhea occurs stop using immediately" and so on and so forth, and I'm scared quite literally shitless of them. Anyhow, what should I do? I hate the teas and the saltwater doesn't work. What should I do to make the saltwater work?
Thanks for reading this, and I'm sorry it was so long! I really thank you kindly for reading. P.S. if anybody needs a support buddy, I need one too.- Re: saltwater flush doesn't work on ... terpfan
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This is a reply to # 235,214I have not tried the SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) although I was going to and I have Sea Salt for it. But, I did a Liver Flush (using Epsom Salts and olive oil & lemon) to start my Master-Cleanse fast with. I don't know if that's in his book but I've read it's good to start with and it's on this site. I cannot stand the side effects of laxatives (I've personally never used one without getting the bad side effects). The Liver Flush WILL WORK. Psyllium husk is good for the colon and is fibrous. I plan to take that while on the Master-Cleanse fast for 10 days. I was scared of the SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) and thanks for posting because now I know I wonn't try it. Why would I want to drink that much salt water if it does nothing? I can go to the beach and do the same thing. This is day 2 of my 10 day Master-Cleanse fast. I have never gone 10 days and need support. I've done a 7 day Water Fast before but I am studying for the bar and need my energy so I chose the MC diet instead. Tell me, it is okay to use Grade A maple syrup, right? I can't find any other here.- Re: saltwater flush doesn't work on ... alnrovh
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This is a reply to # 235,215Hi, I am new to these boards and on day 5 of the MC. I'm having problems of my own, as I just posted, but I can respond to your question. According to Stanley's book you are only supposed to use grade B pure maple syrup, organic if you really want to get fussy. I think because it has gone through less processing. Good luck on studying for your exams! I've only water fasted before too and this is WAY easier!!
To respond to the post about the S/W flushes not working...I used both iodized Sea Salt from the grocery store (cheap) and non-iodized from Trader Joe's and both started working immediatly. I'm talking, immediatly. Though, nothing solid I must say. (If you have the stomach for this diet you can handle this subject matter I guess! I can't believe I'm discussing such matters!) ANyway, the only difference I noticed is that the iodized ss water was cloudy and tasted saltier, and the non-iodized ss water was clear. Both tasted gross and I could only get down 3 1/2 C.'s. I'm using Smooth Move tea with annaise, and haven't had any cramping...have you tried that brand? Hope this helps!- Re: saltwater flush doesn't work on ... beetlejuice
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This is a reply to # 235,217i just wanted to note.
when people dont like talking about the natural process of elimintions its because they have guilt. because of there moral perversions, you guys think its a gross subject.
thats how you can tell how "guilty as hell" they really are. i think im discribing most people, not all though. just thought id share my thought on that matter.
yeah, grade A isnt "the good shit". im starting this diet prolly monday. i know im gonna be drinking some wine this weekend so im holding off. the only problem im having is i cant find organic lemmons. i got orgaic peper and syrup but i cant afford to get orgainc lemmons shipped to my door for $1 a peice plus like $50 in shipping. so it would be like $90 for 2 weeks worth of lemmons. and if you wanted to go 40 days... ill have to take out a loan or sell my car. LOL
i wish i new of a place to buy stuff around where i live. i guess that on my list of things to do.- Guilty as hell? alnrovh
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MoreThis is a reply to # 235,219Hi beetlejuice, I appreciate your perspective on my reluctance to talk about my bowel movements...but I just wanted to say that in normal conversation it is not considered polite to discuss such matters. Normal can be relative I admit, but in my experience I don't discuss these matters with my friends or co-workers and I'd prefer not to hear about their bowel movements either. I don't feel guilty about this, and I do not believe it is a right or wrong (moral) issue. It is cultural norms. So, that's my perspective...
Good luck on your fast. I went to two farmers markets looking for organic lemons and couldn't find them, so am using bags bought from Trader Joes $2/4 lbs.- Re: Guilty as hell? beetlejuice
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This is a reply to # 235,223you say they didnt have them at trader joes? i dont have a trader joes around here but my uncle passes one every day to work.
its too bad people want to sacrifics quality for profit. but the evil we face has no face. you have to over come them with the light of truth. but when you get a lot of these people in one group. you have to eliminate them, or comfront them one by one. because they develope "corrage" when there around each other. we cant just sit aroun and complain. because in the world where i come from its illegal to serve food with pesticides. and the only legal way to market food is organically. no matter how fast it spoils. in my world, we grow and put food on the shelf because we love doing it every day. not because we need money to buy things for our kids, and for our selves that "make us happy".
alnrovh im not against you. even though what i said might have offended you. im on the same side. but my beleive still stands. when you come to a point where you dont care about discussing BM's you will see what i see. im jnot offending you. because i was once like you. thoguht it was "dirty talk" not meast to be talked about. the normal talk these day and ages is to surpress it. dont talk about your constipation. i mean, lets get with it. why not talk about your constipation? you have obviously be condidtioned that constipation is for "whoever you want" but its completely normal in 2005 AC. dont take it too personally.- Re: Guilty as hell? alnrovh
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This is a reply to # 235,226Hi, thanks for your reply. I am not offended at all, I hope my reply did not sound like I was. Your comments made me think about it, and that's always good thing as far as I'm concerned!! I like what you have to say.
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This is a reply to # 235,219The price of lemons has skyrocketed here. I am going to buy some organic ones tomorrow for the fast. Ny state will not sell grade B maple syrup. Had to send away. This time I am going to just buy what I can find in town.
Everyone here talks about pooping and peeing so we think nothing about it. We will never all meet face to face, LOL
Nancy Louise
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This is a reply to # 235,214I think every body is different. I have seen a variety of things people do on this fast. I take Schultz's intestinal formula #1 every night and enema every morning after the normal bms stop, which is after about three days.
The salt water drink makes me want to vomit right away. I may not get the good results. I think the Schult's pills shoud stop for me after the fast is over. I want to do with without being in misery. It should be enjoyed and with anticipation of good results, not some kind of torture, LOL.
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This is a reply to # 235,232You know, I'm afraid to do an enema, because I read that it could be extremely harmful and disrupt the natural bacteria and fungus cultures in there.
I'm also afraid that if I keep doing this laxative tea, I'll never have bowel movements after I stop, and I'll be dependent like so many bulimics are on laxative tea. I have such a strong instinct against using the laxative tea.
Now, regarding psyllium husks or seeds, I am afraid that these absorb not only toxins but useful vitamins and minerals from the intestines, and then are passed out as waste. Psylluim husks are a marvelous solution, except, being on this fast, I'm worried about being deprived of any of the vitamins and minerals I'm ingesting, because I'm not ingesting any excesses.
Additionally, I'm using molasses sometimes and maple syrup other times. Does anybody know if that's a bad idea? I'm switching lemons and limes too, to vary my food as much as I'm allowed to, in order to maximize the selection of nutrients I am ingesting. I'm afraid of calcium deficiency if I stick to maple syrup, and molasses has tons of calcium, is the reason I'm doing that. Actually, I'm going to put up another post about. Thanks for replying to my post, everybody; I am so glad the internet exists! Imagine trying to do this in the 50's without any of these nice people to comiserate with!- Re: saltwater flush doesn't work on ... nancy_louise35
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This is a reply to # 235,236I used limes before. They were better and cheaper. I think lemons are better now. I think you have to do what you feel is best about enemas, etc. I never had problems with that, and aterwards in a couple of days I was normal. It takes a few days for the food to go around and come back out.If you want to read a lot of good stuff, do a search for Somer and read some of her posts.
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This is a reply to # 235,244In the book by Stanley, the creator of the Master Cleanse, he says not to do enemas in the Master-Cleanse because it could be harmful. So, just thought I'd let you know what the Master says. :)
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This is a reply to # 235,247I know because I have his book. I don't want anyone to wreck themselves because I have always done enemas at times.
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This is a reply to # 235,214I've had the same problems with the Salt Water Flush (SWF).
What I've done is experimented around with the amount of salt. The book calls for 2 teaspoons of salt for 1 liter of water. This was producing the same results on me that you are describing... it didn't always happen.
So now I've gone up to 3 teaspoons of salt for one liter of water, and that seems to work just fine.
Some of the other things I do to ensure it passes through:
-I make my 90oz of lemon juice drink right after drinking the SWF. This keeps me standing up.
-I don't lie down. I think this keeps gravity from pulling the SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) through the system?
Usually I am done in an hour or two.
I still wonder if some of the water is being absorbed into my system and what other things I can do to ensure the SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) moves through. Some other thoughts are:
-The time of day it is taken. Early morning may work better?
-How hydrated I am. Drinking more water during the day with the lemon drink?
I have wondered about using the laxative tea as well. I know the body has a tendency to become used to any type of drug or food.
In the past I have used the laxative tea only at night for up to 10 days. I did notice some sluggishness when starting back up on food again, but it's hard to tell if that is from the laxative tea, or from the body getting used to food again.
If I ever go after 10 days (I'm on day 6 now), I may try easing up on the laxative but still doing the SWF.
Post back to this thread when you get it working.
Good Luck!
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