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CoconutLover
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So, I'm new here - hello everyone, I wish we could meet under more pleasant circumstances.
Like many of you, I have a problem - I am fairly certain it is threadworms (pinworms if you are in the US)..... and my doctor is being spectacularly useless.
He agreed to test a sample, and then somehow the lab conveniently managed to test for bacteria, and not parasites, turns out I don't have salmonella!!!!!!
He has now just blindly prescribed me mebendazole without even seeing me.... This I appreciate is more helpful than many of the awful tales I have read on here. But here's the rub, I am also passing other things, red things mostly..... and I don't agree with taking medicine unless you are absolutely sure it is going to do something. As it is, I'm exhausted all the time, I was actually going to ask my Doctor about my fatigue generally, when, before I even started my cleanse I think I found a dead worm.....
I am trying to get him to agree to do another test, but he thinks he has fixed my problem. At this stage, I'm perfectly willing to arrange for a sample to be tested privately, has anyone gone down this route an found it to be helpful? And if so, who did you use? I'm pondering smart nutrition which will cost £300 for a comprehensive digestive test including all cancer markers etc..... any other ideas? Or more wallet friendly options?
Also - on Paragone and passing stool after stool just full of things.... even after 15 days. Is that normal??? As I'm still passing so much, I want to go straight on to pack 2 of Paragone, even though it says take a 5 day break.... what do you recommend?
Thanking you all in advance for your time.
Wishing you all the best of health x
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- Re: Paragone advice and using privat... MIZMAC
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This is a reply to # 2,325,303It is generally agreed on this forum that testing is a waste of money. You have parasites. Treat them. It may take months to get rid of them. And then you still need to keep treating for several months after you see the last one so that you kill the eggs and any strays. Then you have to cleanse on a regular basis as it is easy to be reinfected. About 3-4 times per year.
The red things are probably some type of flukes. Most parasite treatments will kill a range of parasites. Most people find that they have multiple parasites. Some parasites even have their own parasites and as you kill the host, the other one comes out.
You have to become your own healer. You must become very well educated about parasites.
I have a blog about my experience. Perhaps you can learn something. Go to Blogs, New Blogs, #4190, Getting the parasites Out.
Good luck.
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This is a reply to # 2,325,594Mizmac, thanks for all the good info you post.
I wonder about the enemas. Just started recently and it seems it really helps with the bad symptoms, especially die off. But dont you think if it is done 2 times a day then it causes an addiction? It can be that it disturbs normal peristaltis. And it also wipes out the good bacterias. I am certain it is beneficial but is it really good to do so often?- Re: Paragone advice and using privat... MIZMAC
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This is a reply to # 2,325,618Enemas causing an addiction??? I don't know how to answer that one. I think that enemas are a personal choice and can be used as needed for certain purposes. I think using enemas to eliminate pinworms or other parasites is very helpful. I think colonics are better since they reach higher in the colon but they can be expensive.
I am basing my opinion on twice a day enemas from the book Healing the Symptoms Known as Autism by Kerri Rivera . They recommend that enemas can be done more than once a day.
I think that each person has to experiment and find what works for them. If someone is in pain from pin worms, flushing out the adults twice a day is justified. I am not recommending that it be a continuous practice for a lifetime. Just a practice to eliminate parasites and maintain colon health as the individual needs dictate.
Yes, good bacteria may be eliminated along with the parasites and some die off symptoms. Moving the parasites out of the digestive system is the first priority however. The longer they decay/digest in the system the more die off symptoms you will get.
You can reintroduce good bacteria thru probiotics and fermented foods if you feel the need. Personally, I would wait until the parasites are eliminated because they literally can eat holes in your digestive system. Adding probiotics and fermented foods to a leaky gut may induce some allergic reactions. When eliminating parasites, it is best to stick to a very bland diet of well cooked veggies and meat. You don't want your digestive system to have to work hard at digestion. You want it to work hard at killing parasites. The one addition I would suggest is Betaine HCL. It is stomach acid and may help with digestion and with killing the parasites. There is also the issue of biofilm. See my blog for a further discussion.
The order for repairing the gut and killing the parasites is removal, repair of the leaky gut, reinoculation with good bacteria and then restoration of normal functions.
I just posted a new blog post on fixing the leaky gut that occurs after the parasites. You can find my entire protocol on the very first post of my blog, Getting the Parasites Out. Go to Blogs, New Blogs and scroll down to #4190. Once you open the blog, you will have to go to page one and then to the very first post to find my protocol. Printed out, it is about 5 pages. I periodically update it as I get new info.
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This is a reply to # 2,325,675Thanks Mizmac! You are probably one of the few here to heal yourself with an all natural protocol.
I said addiction because there is an enema page here that warns people not to overuse it. I am really a beginner so i am just trying to understand what is the best way to go. I have tried the small fleet enemas and they help when i am constipated but recently got a proper kit because the small ones have only small effects :)
Have you also done any colonics with magnesium citrate? I am still to do that one.
Thanks again for your information and updates. I hope you will come back regularly and help others who feel sick. Your posts are really useful. Thanks.- Re: Paragone advice and using privat... MIZMAC
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This is a reply to # 2,325,714Colonics are done by professionals to you. You have to pay for them. I paid $90/session but I live in a very expensive place. At the end of each colonic, my therapist would add back some probiotics. My naturopath recommended that I do them 2x per week but I couldn't afford that. I did them about once a week for a while and then made sure that I did them on the full moon. I passed some kind of stones, probably Gallstones during the colonics on occasion.
As for the enemas, do them AFTER you have had a bowel movement. You are not initiating peristalsis but cleaning out the colon. Go to YouTube and watch the AutismOne 2015 conference. Kerri Rivera gives a lecture on enemas. The AutismOne 2014 conference has a number of great presentations. Watch Dr. Andreas Kalcker, Kerri Rivera and Dr. Marco Riggerio. Regressive autism and parasites go together.
If you suffer from constipation, take 2 tbsp. of flaxseed and grind it in your blender. Add them to a smoothy and drink it every day. It will bulk up your stool and help with constipation. Then drink LOTS of water. 8-10 glasses per day. You have got to get things moving on a regular basis. I never suffered from constipation but my naturopath recommended the flaxseed as part of my parasite removal protocol. You can also add some aloe vera to the smoothy. It helps with digestion and may help kill the parasites.
Don't buy flaxseed oil. It is usually rancid.
And if you really want to get your digestive system moving, try a salt water flush. They are extremely effective at moving everything. Really hard on the body but I eliminated one old fat parasite that had 5 attachment suckers that way. Google the directions and be prepared to camp out in the bathroom for half a day. Then be sure to reinoculate yourself with good bacteria as you will be stripped clean of everything.- Re: Paragone advice and using privat... Positive mind
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This is a reply to # 2,325,783Mizmac! Thanks a lot. Interesting.
I know the colonics therapy. Here they do it as well, many places, it actually costs much more than you said. But i was thinking why to do it when i can do enemas at home.
I know the saline flush. If you google shanka prakshalana you will see it is also done with salty water, from your mouth all the way to your anus, it cleans you out totally. I have done it once years ago. You do feel very clean afterwards, but i had to go on a special diet for a whole month to rebuild good bacterias.
it was part of a yoga workshop.
Luckily i rarely have constipation. It happened in the beginning when i was plugged with them. I do use flaxseeds, ground, it is part of the protocol :) thanks! Got a great smoothie recipe from a fellow 'sufferer'with fresh papaya, pineapple, flaxseeds, pumpkin seeds, ginger, some immune herbs and coco milk which i make daily. The papaya fruit i dont peel, just wash the skin well as it contains the most enzymes and make the smoothie like that. Really powerful stuff.
You were lucky to find a good naturopath, to have done the colonics but most of all that you had no disseminated parasites. I am doing a combination of some naturals with meds and i am starting to feel better.
Once i am done i will do maintenance probably with colonics included.
Thanks for all your great info.
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This is a reply to # 2,325,594Testing is a waste of money. Did it and they said I was clear when, in fact, I have a severe infestation. Makes me really mad
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