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Protozoa, Amoeba, Pin Worms?
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I been expelling a lot of worms lately after working on my health. Does that sound like a good thing?
Before I wouldn't expell any...- Re: Immune system working? Expelling... Soly047
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This is a reply to # 2,193,031As I say it's better for you when they are out instead of being in.
If I had to guess yes. Another Q what it is for sure. Possible immune system efficiency via specific stimulation? Specific supp/herb/med/mix which helps to do that?
And the most crazy one is this... Not your case I'm sure. When the parasite burden get's too much (very big numbers here) the parasites themselves will get rid of their own kind via stool LOL! No joke. - Re: Immune system working? Expelling... username7414
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It's by far better to have your body attack and get rid of them... I wish I could kick my immune system into gear. I've had an over active immune system since I was a kid.. besides asthma related bronchitis in the winter, I never ever get sick. Swine flu had my boys sick in 2009. I had JUST given birth 3 weeks prior and never got it as it made its rounds twice. Any body piercing gets rejected and pushed out.. so wth! - Re: Immune system working? Expelling... commonknowledge
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This is a reply to # 2,193,031Soly047
yeah thats what i was afraid of... being in hyperfection mode again. it could be possible only time will tell. i basically removed fiber for about 3 weeks and went on a probiotic craze by fermenting my on kefir,sourcream,yogurt(cultered with VSL3) and built my gut flora up. Then after I would check to see if my probiotics took hold by reintroducing fiber to see either the good guys or bad guys would ferment the fiber foods. looks like the good guys are fermenting based off how i feel.
but i been expelling ALOT of worms and i hope its because my gut flora is helping the body. i dont know....
username7414
try building your gut flora up, im learning the bacteria in the gut create communication in the body the organs and the immune system. your immune system probably is lacking order. would be ideal to try to build it up some... thats what im doing currently.
my stools have improved alot... its amazing...
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This is a reply to # 2,193,070i'm not finding anything in the bathroom, which is disappointing because i can feel something in there. if you are going into hyper infection, wouldn't you be feeling sick too? it sounds more like you're just killing stuff off... and if that's the case, you should just keep doing what you're doing! im in the process of planning a new diet strategy, i might try this.
now i just have to figure out if this spread to my lungs and if so, how do you get it out? it's not like you can flush your lungs. i'm so screwed :'(- Re: Immune system working? Expelling... commonknowledge
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i been experimenting with alllll kinds of methods... first i tried killing parasites/candida and that had good results except the bugs came back everytime after a cycle. so im building my immune system now by restoring the gut flora organ. gut flora communicates to the brain and immune system. it also regulates the immunity traffic in the body. with a damaged gut, all worms and candida will always come back. because with a breached gut wall/gut flora we are open to be attacked by all worms, candida, viruses, or whatever else.
i think you may be feeling the roundworms larvae being cough up in your lungs... if it has reached that point you need to either up your enemas to flush out larvae, take some OTC pyrantel to kill worms in the gut, or do some albendazole for 1-2 weeks for knock the load down. if your lungs are just filled with mucus then the immune system will have to fix that.
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This is a reply to # 2,193,109it's most definitely related. i don't feel the same crawling type of feeling though.. it more of moves in a mass, if that makes sense. at first i thought it was my stomach, but then i noticed that the left side of my chest will hurt and have this heavy feeling.. then it moves down and goes away.. then i'll get this feeling like something is stuck in my trachea, it starts at the bottom and moves up into the back of my throat. it's annoying because you can't swallow to make it go away. the only time i cough is late at night or in the morning, but i don't see anything in what i cough up.. but i probably shouldn't expect to. sometimes it's blood tinged, but not often or enough to make me panic. i WAS gonna let it go until my next appointment on the 11th, but there's no way i can go that long yet. the fenbenzadole always seems to provoke a strong reaction, and after that stabbing chest pain, i'm so afraid to make this worse. my doctor said if certain Tapeworms infect your brain or other organs, sometimes killing them will also kill you in the process and i need to be patient and let GI make an ID during a colonoscopy and that will be enough to get me into infectious disease. that could be months.. no way i can live like this for that long. i don't want to kill off anything i might need to be found, but i can't deal with the chest pain... that's yet another referral and another doctor though... and waiting for another procedure.
when people say "scattering" do they mean this? or is scattering more like moving into arms and legs or their head?
i hope i wake up tomorrow and this is just a nightmare.
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i get those same feeling... i get upper left chest pain and sometimes that throat pain and lower gastric pain. they did a endoscopy on me and found bleeding legions. they said the legions were esophagal/gastric varices but i think they were legions from parasites. what you are describing is simple parasite movement they move up and down through our stomach which is on the left side of the body. you could try a broad spectrum dewormer right after eating. thats what i would do, i would eat and wait 30 min for the stomach acid to clear then the worms would come down to eat. Then i would take a antiparasitic to kill whatever is down in the stomach. then during a bowel movement i could identify the specie of worm. Mine are roundworms and there could be some protozoa too IDK. Scattering happens when we have no gut immune system and worms and parasites just travel away from the gut unregulated. They just do what they want, go where they want because there isnt anything to stop them from moving all over the place. you should definitely try some dewormers though... i have been through ivermectin(harsh as hell) pyrantel p, humaworm ect....- Re: Immune system working? Expelling... username7414
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This is a reply to # 2,193,242Oh god... so that explains the moving around.. it seems like its becoming more predictable like on a cycle. I have the moving around down low during the day... sometimes it feels so close like i can quick flush it out with an enema.. but it doesnt work. It makes me wonder if theres some hidden space its coming from. My entire torso will bubble and jerk, I cant tell what it is though. The chest and throat discomfort and pain start around 8:30 at night.. althought it has come and gone early in the day too, its almost always a given to have it at night. The spot where i felt that piercing feeling in my chest is a little itchy now.. like that weird itchy on the inside feeling when you have an allergy to something. Its alternating between soreness and that faint itchiness. I took the meds back to tractor supply... I'm too afraid to do this on my own. I seriously thought I was going to die after that chest pain or have internal bleeding from it. It was THAT bad. I know fenben seems to be the best med.. that provokes an extreme reaction whenever i take it, but I need medical help. I can't risk killing myself in the process of killing off whatever is in me. Not yet anyway. If these specialists can't or won't help me, then at least my kids can sue for medical negligence when an autopsy proves I was right all along. My primary care doctor is korean and said that a lot of times killing parasites too quick will kill the host and sometimes you can't try killing them at all. This just adds to the frustration and confusion. I have been pouring through forum posts going back years and I wonder how many people who no longer post here have either gotten better or gotten worse... and who have maybe even died because of this. So many people with legitimate sounding infections, yet nothing helped them.
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This is a reply to # 2,193,242what would you say would be the best probiotic source?
i bought the entire cooler section of activia yogurt from the store, but the kids are getting sick of it :/- Re: Immune system working? Expelling... commonknowledge
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so sad western medicine doesnt acknowledge gut dybiosis. Many doctors dont even know what it is lol. Gut dybiosis means your gut flora is down and pathogens are up. and its basically that simple lol. i hope you make it through all your fustrations regaining health is a up hill war. the best probiotic is kefir hads down. kefir has lactoferrin inside of it which helps create healthy bacteria colonies. kefir also has probiotic yeast which replace candida. People say kefir yeast feeds candida but that not true.... kefir yeast replaces candida yeast. kefir is also a colonizing bacteria strain of 50 types of bacteria or more. yogurt is a transient bacteria type that stops activity once you quit drinking it. i would make your own kefir from kefir grains that you could get on craigslist in your area. you can also eat the kefir grains for a probiotic boost. dont feed the kids yogurt, feed them kefir...- Re: Immune system working? Expelling... username7414
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This is a reply to # 2,193,344oh awesome.. i've never heard of it before. i searched it and found lifeway kefir that's available in the grocery store in town... homemade is probably better than commercial, but commercial is probably better than none.
thanks.. gonna pick some up tomorrow! - Re: Immune system working? Expelling... username7414
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This is a reply to # 2,193,344Sorry I'm so needy... but did you say castor oil will help flush out unhatched ova in the gi tract, right? And the horrible chest infection i called the doctor about... they just called in a z-pack and an 8 day course of prednisone. Can I get rid of the infection with like vitamin c and garlic? I don't think its bad enough to go to the extremes of taking those meds... it hurts more than anything. Im really not very congested. and albuterol inhalers... are they ok?
It's ironic how they'll just randomly call this stuff in without seeing me, but any other time trying to get meds is like pulling teeth :/Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 2,193,242Commonknowledge: could you please clarify what it is you mean when you say ivermectin is harsh as hell?
I have completed 3 rounds of Albendazole and was going to try ivermectin next to mix it up. I have already purchased it
Thanks!
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This is a reply to # 2,193,109Commonknowledge:
Could you please explain how/what is means to restore the gut flora?
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if you look at any special healing diet like SCdiet, GAPS diet, body ecology diet ect ect
THEY ALL focus on restoring the beneficial bacteria in the stomach. Our typical immune system is our thymus/bone marrow organ but our other immune system in our gut bacteria which is in the center of the body and communicates with the brain and other organs to keep the body in order and functioning. Prescription drugs, meds, bad diet, Antibiotics kill off the gut flora composed of beneficial viruses, bacteria, worms, protozoa which "guard" the gut wall and body. once the gut wall falls due to mistreatment, it gets invaded by pathogens and we get sick. so we have reseed the gut by eating LIVE kefir grains, LIVE kefir drink, LIVE yogurt without eating fiber foods. If your gut is mostly pathogens then the fiber will be feeding the pathogens. so you have to keep seeding good bacteria until the good bacteria out number the pathogenic microbes then you introduce fiber slowly to grow the good bacteria then you will have your immune system back. and even if you had multiple infections like CMV,herpes, Barr virus, Mono, lyme, or any other infection u probably wouldnt have symptoms because the gut flora would keep them in check you see. ALot of people get tested from lyme and are positive but have no symptoms... its because their immune system is keeping them in check.- Re: Immune system working? Expelling... Reborn
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Some worms have life cycles that involve hatching in intestines, entering blood stream, moving thought lungs, being coughed up in soutum and swallowed and settling in the intestines. When The hookworms were in my lungs I though I was getting astma and couldn't breath. It was like I could not get enough air no matter how deep of a breath I took. I did not know it was from worms at the time and though my allergies were really bad and were making me have asthma.
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