Emerging from a round in hell 
harry89
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Hi all
Been lurking around here for the last 8 weeks or so, reading, reading and more reading - books, articles and posts. Wow, what a wealth of material and, as I make my way thru the RRR posts, such an impressive, knowledgeable group. Thank-you!!! Well, I was going to write sooner but, the dreaded, predictable detox started in earnest a few weeks ago and then was compounded by a cold going around. Headaches, fever, clogged sinuses, coughing, constant drainage down the throat but no sore throat. The first weeks on Lugols were interesting. I was somewhat familiar with Iodine and no stranger to alternative medicine, detox and diet changes. I have tried many approaches over the past 25 years but nothing directly (and with enough strength) dealing with a what I finally figured out was a somewhat underfunctioning thyroid and, of course, an Iodine deficiency.
After a few weeks at 50-100mgs I experienced a very deep and restorative sleep. I gave over to it, napping when I could as well. Sleep has always been problemmatic so, this is wonderful. My energy fluctuated but, overall, I could feel my system amping up. Skin is improving, less dry and age/sun spots fading. Electrolytes must be more balanced as I don't struggle with dehydration anymore. Some days I experience intense heat in my body, some days just normal but good body temp.
Exercise, which is very important to me, has been suspended. Hopefully, I can restart that soon, but, from reading some of your experiences, I guess I just have to be patient and ride the waves.
Chest pain - first upper left side, then center then upper right but it passed after a week or so. My teeth feel tighter and stronger. Eyesight fluctuates but, overall getting better. I am on the protocol and trying to keep the elimination pathways clear. 150-200mgs Lugols for about three weeks now and soon will have some of Trapper's SSKI to add.
That's about all for now, will report in again soon.
Thanks again everyone,
Harry
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- Re: Emerging from a round in hell #68716
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,123,568Sounds great, nice to read.
"My teeth feel tighter and stronger." I felt the same thing too - Re: Emerging from a round in hell Jay77
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This is a reply to # 2,123,568Thanks for the update Harry. It's nice to hear your experience. It seems similar to mine thus far. One thing I noticed is I get really tired on Iodine, though when im awake i feel pretty good. I get about 8 hours of deep sleep, and I just want to keep on sleeping in the morning. Last time I used to sleep like that was when I was 19 or and younger. Sometimes naps just come over me too. And they arent the same as my naps in the past few years, I actually get into what feels like a deep sleep. I definitely hope it's restorative, because like you, my skin has improved, as has my focus, my moodiness is mostly gone (im actually in a calm mood most of the time now), sinuses, memory and anxiety has seriously improved, I dont have to pee a 15 times a day anymore among other things. That's not to say I didnt also go through massive detox, anger, strong emotions, chest pain, neck swelling, sweaty neck, drainage and tons of phlegm I was coughing up for weeks on end. Finally the phlegm seems to be tapering off, I still have to clear my throat 10 times a day, but early on Iodine it was 30-40 times... In other words, it seems like things just take time to leave the body. Only been on 5 weeks now, but excited to see what the next 5 brings...
- Re: Emerging from a round in hell Ginagirl
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This is a reply to # 2,123,786Great update from both of you. More, deeper / better sleep is a good proof that you are on the right track.
The body restore then; of course important that one have periods of alertness, feeling good in between the detox. This is what kept me going in the middle of my round of hell.
Modiness, emotionality etc; all seen balanced with iodine, reported numerous times at this board. - Re: Emerging from a round in hell #68716
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- Re: Emerging from a round in hell harry89
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This is a reply to # 2,123,786Funny, I went through that tired, restorative sleep stage during the first few weeks. Lately, though, sleep has been more difficult but, occasionally I sleep straight thru and this is extremely unusual for me - even since childhood. Like you, Jack1977, naps are very deep. When the nights are more consistent, I think some real healing can take place - trying to be patient. The last few days/nights I have noticed that I am hungry almost constantly - keeps me up at night sometimes and a snack that would have been satisfying before (3 raw eggs or a glass of raw milk) barely makes a dent. Must be the metabolism amping up, which is welcome if that is the case.
This is all quite a ride, every week different. Don't know where I would be without the well documented experiences of the veterans here...
- Re: Emerging from a round in hell Ginagirl
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This is a reply to # 2,123,878If adrenals are fatigued, sleep will be / has been an issue; and regular (healthy, preferably) snacking is a cure, it will keep the blood Sugar more stable.
http://blog.adrenalfatigue.org/adrenal-fatigue/sleep-adrenal-fatigue/
Parts of the Iodine protocol, vit C, B, magnesium in particular; will help the adrenals join the thyroid`s increased activity.
We often forget that all the endocrine glands work together; if one is low, the others are not up to par either.
Also, according sleep; the Iodine and its companions will affect the calcification of the pineal gland, due to fluoride (the fluoride accumulate in the pineal gland, highest ppm in the body)
"While the impacts of these fluoride concentrations in the pineal are not yet fully understood, studies have found that calcified deposits in the pineal are associated with decreased numbers of functioning pinealocytes and reduced melatonin production (Kunz et al., 1999) as well as impairments in the sleep-wake cycle."
http://www.antigmofoods.com/2013/05/pineal-gland-fluoride.html
- So, when taking iodine, more sleep, deeper sleep, more vivid dreams; reported numerous times at this board.
- Re: Emerging from a round in hell harry89
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This is a reply to # 2,123,895Ginagirl
Thx very much for these links, very helpful especially since last night was the third and worst night in a row. I did not sleep until after 3am and then it was poor quality. It's frustrating as lack of sleep is definitely holding up progress. Today, I have suspended most supplements and cut way down on Iodine (to 50mg). It's a desperate move to try to get sleep. I already do a number of things to help sleep but, perhaps, as that article suggests, I am photosensitive and need to shut the computer down earlier in the evening and go to bed earlier. Will try tonight!
One other concern - I had some slight trembling in my hands before starting Iodine but now this condition has worsened (am 53yo). Am wondering if others have had this experience, if it resolves, why, etc...
Oh, one further possible piece of the sleep puzzle - In an effort to get ahead on the cold, I mega dosed Vit D3 - 140000iu on Sunday. On Monday, I was really significantly better. I dropped to 100,000iu on Monday and lower on Tuesday and by wednesday probably around 20,000. Is it possible this was stimulating me? It is unusual for me to have that much trouble falling asleep.
- Re: Emerging from a round in hell Ginagirl
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This is a reply to # 2,124,044Yes, the vit D may have caused it. I had similar reactions on vit D myself; palpitations and jitteryness /insomnia.
Probably due to it increasing the calcium uptake, hence lower the magnesium.
Naturalnews had a good article about it;
http://www.naturalnews.com/029195_magnesium_vitamin_D.html
"This is creating some uncomfortable 'Side Effects of Vitamin D' that are actually symptoms of an induced magnesium deficiency! Some of the magnesium deficiency symptoms being attributed to Vitamin D are:"
Headaches
Insomnia
Jitteriness
Muscle Cramps
Anxiety
Heart Palpitations
Constipation
This made me realize I had to focus on the magnesium.. and since then I hardly have insomnia.
- Re: Emerging from a round in hell harry89
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This is a reply to # 2,124,050Super helpful, thx, will take a magnesium/dead Sea Salt bath tonight!
- Re: Emerging from a round in hell harry89
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- Re: Emerging from a round in hell Ginagirl
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- Re: Emerging from a round in hell harry89
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- Re: Emerging from a round in hell Jay77
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This is a reply to # 2,123,878About the raw eggs, I heard that it (raw egg whites) blocks the absorption of Biotin. So just a heads up, it could lead to a deficiency and possibly hair loss.
It's funny, I went through having some amazing feeling moments, but past couple weeks I feel a little blah. Or Maybe it's the winter months, and the lack of sun is affecting me. That said, I still sleep deeply, and just tonight I was playing my sports, and I was just on fire. I was involved in the plays, making awesome defensive moves and was involved in tons of scoring - whereas I wasnt usually that good until I started Iodine. People have been commenting for over a month (been on Iodine 5 weeks). Only other time I played well, or felt in the zone, I was on threelac, thinking i had candida. It seemed to help a lot. I guess the Iodine is keeping what I suspect was candida at bay. Which btw, is there a way for Iodine to cure candida on its own (i.e. easy fix:))??
Otherwise guess I just move on and forward hoping for further results over the coming weeks/months. Time for bed.- Re: Emerging from a round in hell Ginagirl
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This is a reply to # 2,124,001"Which btw, is there a way for Iodine to cure candida on its own (i.e. easy fix:))??"
-I cured my candida issues with supplementing borax, together with the iodine.- Re: Emerging from a round in hell Jay77
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This is a reply to # 2,124,051Hi Ginagirl, Thanks. I bought borax, and took it for a couple days, however I read on a post a few weeks back that it can increase testosterone and increase hair loss. As a 36yo guy Ive been battling trying to keep my hair and so far it looks pretty great, but it still sheds a lot and little by little I lose ground every year. I worry that the borax would exacerbate MPB. For example I know fish oil totally increased my testosterone and IGF-1 (which linked to mpb), and I started losing hair by the truckloads! my hair looked pretty bad for a couple months because of it. Seems like a bit of a catch 22 for me:( Any suggestions?
- Re: Emerging from a round in hell Ginagirl
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This is a reply to # 2,124,134I believe it is much more to this, as some men will get increased MPB of increased testosterone. Others will loose hair because their testosterone is low.
- Taking to much of anything is no good of course, but boron is important for the hormones, fertility etc.
A male family member of mine has been taking borax for over a year now, together with Iodine etc. No extra hair shedding reported, but a way increased libido according to his wife.
Also other benefits.
So, it is a learning process and sometimes one have to weigh out the pro and cons, like with Iodine and the detox.
For hairloss in generals I recommend vit B, in addition to adress a hypo T or borderline hypo T with Iodine etc. Zink.
Everything that increases circulation, body temp, dry brushing of skin, scalp massage, essential oils.
- Re: Emerging from a round in hell Jay77
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This is a reply to # 2,124,382Thanks. I plan on trying borax again. I just dont want to go into overkill. I think the shedding has decreased in the past few weeks, and more so the past 3 days. I'd like to see how things are at month 2/3, before I add borax. Im also tempted to add biotin to my shampoo - which Im using non sulfate shampoo. Otherwise Im taking zinc, b6/12/folic, coppper, d3.
Btw I never did tell u that I tend to spend some time in Norway and was Drammen for 3 weeks in August, and will be there again in January for another 2-3 weeks to work with my partners. Went to see the local football team, who I heard won the league championship on Monday. Godset fra drammen!:)- Re: Emerging from a round in hell Ginagirl
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This is a reply to # 2,124,433Boron work in small doses for the hormones, so there is no need for overkill;
(to adress candida, much more needed than 3 mg IMO)
""After the exciting discovery of calcium retention by a small boron
supplement, a question arises. How can boron make such a
dramatic difference? The answer is found in the blood serum of
the experimental subjects. Researchers have discovered that the
blood level of the most active form of estrogen — 17-beta
estradiol — DOUBLES to the level found in women on estrogen
replacement therapy; that’s a fifty percent increase over the prestudy
levels! Also, the blood levels of testosterone — a male
hormone and precursor of estradiol — MORE than doubled.
"The researchers suspect that the body needs boron to
synthesize estrogen, vitamin D, and other steroid hormones. It may
also protect these hormones against rapid breakdown."
http://www.arthritistrust.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Boron-and-Arthritis.pdf
Norway in January; bring your warmest clothing! It is dark 18 hours out of 24 and usually a very cold month. But beautiful. I know Drammen it is a nice town by the river, you will have a great time for sure:)- Re: Emerging from a round in hell Jay77
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This is a reply to # 2,124,587thanks, yeah, it says more than doubles testosterone, that's what concerns me about increasing my chance of losing my hair. Anyhow, I'll try it when im back home in January.
BTW - I am no stranger to cold, with up to -20/30 celcius with wind here in Canada, I definitely have some warm clothes:) the light i think I'll be missing the most. I recall a week in Copenhagen in Dec of 08, it was so dark with the sun rising at 9/930 and setting at 3pm... It felt like it was constantly night.
- Re: Emerging from a round in hell Jay77
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- Re: Emerging from a round in hell Ginagirl
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- Re: Emerging from a round in hell Jay77
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- Re: Emerging from a round in hell Ginagirl
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- Re: Emerging from a round in hell Jay77
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- Re: Emerging from a round in hell harry89
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This is a reply to # 2,124,001Hey, thx for your concern. I eat the whole egg - actually "Egg yolks have one of the highest concentrations of biotin found in nature." (Mercola) Here is a link to an article explaining this further. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2005/02/09/raw-eggs.aspx
Great that you are still able to play sports. I have not seen the inside of a gym in over a month - detox just won't allow it for now...
I did notice, too, before I had to stop, that my stamina and strength were increasing.
Borax, as per Ginagirl's reco, has been working well for me, too, for candida.
- Re: Emerging from a round in hell Ginagirl
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- Re: Emerging from a round in hell Ginagirl
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- Re: Emerging from a round in hell Ginagirl
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