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I have been using Ester C for my vitamin C...up to 3 or 4 grams a day. I think this may be causing some discomfort. not to be gross, but after I have a BM and let sit in the toilet and come back after a few minutes, there is what looks to be a small amount of blood that has sunk to the bottom. Nothing that has alarmed me much. The extra vitamin C amounts I have been taking since Iodine are the only thing I can attribute. Or the fact that my gut is kind of messed up..perhaps from past years of eating SAD diet. Is there a more gentle form of Vitamin C that I could be taking? Just want to know since C is very important to the protocol.
It's already been established that I am low in estradiol. I was on the birth control pill 9-10 years. I attribute part of my sudden weight gain after stopping the pill to hormone imbalance. Last week I increased my Boron intake to 15-18 mg per day. This week has been bad for me. Lots of stomach gurgling, low appetite, stomach bloating, and HORRIBLE anxiety/panic just upon waking in the morning. So much so that I have loose stools up to 3 times within an hour of waking. I haven't been able to eat much because not much appetite due to whatever's going on in my stomach. I was reading that being on birth control can cause candida. I never suspected I had candida, but upping my Boron and having horrible intestinal issues the past week makes me think it's candida/parasite. My question is, is the horrible anxiety part of candida die-off? I'm a worrier in general, but this has been horrible..some of the worst I've experienced. Having been somewhat hypo doesn't help matters either. GinaGirl, how long did it take you to get your candida under control with Boron/iodine, and do you think this may be some die-off symptoms?
I have been sure to take digestive enzymes, Betaine HCL, and probiotics. Bad digestive issues/stomach issues have been a problem for me the past few years, I thought I would mention. I'm wondering if I can do anything else or any way to relieve this anxiety/stomach problmes since not much seems to help. I've tried Ashwaghanda without much help. GABA has helped before bed. Morning is the worst though. This sucks because I was hoping to do a Colon Cleanse this weekend. Obviously I can't with these stomach issues.
I know Iodine and Boron are at work doing something! I don't want to back off the Iodine at this point...
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This is a reply to # 2,115,626I have never seen much detox with borax, actually no die off at all with me.
The stomach issues I had big time. I wouldnt stress my system to much now with cleanses. I was desperate at some points, tried to cover everything in one go, that did not work.
I had to restart the whole thing, forced to take it slow.
what you can do for your stomach, take a couple of grams of msm daily. As sulfur deficiency may cause that the supplements are not utilized, cell permeability.
The stomach symptoms may be caused of vit C, Back then I only tolerated 3 grams daily, divided doses. Now I can take twice as much without problems. Check the ester c you take; if it is dicalcium phosphate in it..
http://www.web-clinic.us/Can-Dicalcium-Phosphate-Be-Harmful.html
Best vit C I know is ascorbic acid made from tapioca.
Also magnesium can cause the stomach problems; it may not be utilized, taken up at all; just leave the system with a lot of noise:) Been there to.
Magnesium may be what you need for your anxiety as well. It is the mineral I struggled most with.
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2000855#i
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2000808#i
Also know that after a SAD diet for years, this will take some time.
-I had candida under control within a year on Iodine / borax.
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This is a reply to # 2,115,632Thanks so much for your reply. I recently did end a liver cleanse. Maybe it's just all too much stress for my body right now.
I do try to avoid supplements that contain the dicalcium phosphate. I don't think I'm taking any at the moment that have it.
The MSM - I have never taken. I thought I was getting enough sulfur in my diet with beans, etc. But what you bring up is interesting about cell permeability.
The Ester C I have been taking is timed-release 1,000 mg pill taken at different times of the day. I have an unopened ascorbic acid form with rose hips at home I could try. I also had been taking relatively high magnesium...sometimes 800 mg or a bit more. Too much too soon perhaps..after not taking any prior to July of this year.
Guess I have to be patient and hope that things calm down. And I'm very impatient!
Vulcanel - I haven't been with someone since August of 2012, so pretty sure I'm not having a pregnancy scare! I will keep an eye on the blood. I really hate to back off all the supplements though :(- Re: More gentle form of Vit. C? And ... Ginagirl
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This is a reply to # 2,115,635" I also had been taking relatively high magnesium...sometimes 800 mg or a bit more."
-I can tell you that 800 mg of magnesium can cause all of your stomach symptoms alone. It took me 3-4 years to be able to absorb my magnesium supplements, started this before iodine. I am now at 3-500 mg; this was out of the question just a couple of years ago. Diarrhea, gurgling, all kinds of stomach problems.
Type and size matters.
The time-released supplements I stay far away from; they typically contain like mentioned, dicalcium phosphate, magnesium stearate and other nasties.
Yes, quit everything for 5 days, as V suggest. I needed to several times. Then on again, slower this time:)- Re: More gentle form of Vit. C? And ... DMgirl
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This is a reply to # 2,115,640Thank you so much. I will get on the MSM and try to find a decent vitamin C without additives. So hard to do as nearly everything I find has magnesium stearate listed!
I was feeling pretty darn good up until this week until these horrid stomach issues resurfaced! I will stop everything for a few days and then restart Iodine at 50 mg instead of 125 mg, and lower dosages of other companions. Do you think that sounds good? I'm afraid I will have too much brain fog if I go too low on the iodine...
Thank you, Vulcanel and GinaGirl! Nice to have this support forum, as no where else to turn!
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This is a reply to # 2,115,626"Last week I increased my Boron intake to 15-18 mg per day. This week has been bad for me."
Sounds like Herximer reaction. But as for the blood in stool, not a good thing if it goes on long term, could mean a few things. I'd stop everything for a 5 days and try to eat more fruits than usual and see of you cant' get that blood to stop. If it don't stop, I'd say get it checked.
I suggest to get a home pregnancy test and use your first urine in the morning and report back if you choose, the result. Pls don't ask why. - Re: More gentle form of Vit. C? And ... Newport
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This is a reply to # 2,115,626>>Is there a more gentle form of Vitamin C that I could be taking?
AMLA, or Triphala if you can't immediately find AMLA.
It and Pharma Grade Ascorbic Acid will also chelate Lead, but you will need to get rid of all the Bioflavonoids from the Ester before anything works well at all, that may take a couple of days.
There are research articles on the buildup of the compounds used in Ester. If you are not chelating your body may depend on the PH alteration of Ester overnight. You can ween off that with a Coral Calc capsule at bed time or even better some SCD Yogurt with Honey.- Re: More gentle form of Vit. C? And ... DMgirl
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This is a reply to # 2,115,669Thanks, Newport. Reading up on the AMLA. Looks legit. I will probably have to buy online. You all are a wealth of information...never heard of it before! I'm done with the Ester C from here on out. Gonna buy MSM powder after work, experiment with that, and that's the only thing (along with GABA before bed for relaxation) I'm going to take the next 5 days before I start back up on my iodine!- Re: More gentle form of Vit. C? And ... Newport
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This is a reply to # 2,115,676Bottled GABA is kind of useless. Raw Milk or Butter from dairies that don't take out the GABA is a far better source.
Back when Hagen Dazz was imported I used to call it psychiatric medicine.. the only way to get GABA in ZOG Canada.. - Re: More gentle form of Vit. C? And ... Ginagirl
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This is a reply to # 2,115,676GABA made the situation worse in a couple of cases I know of, I follow Newport here. gelatin is an option for sleep / relaxation; together with magnesium transdermally.
Amla, together with some ascorbic acid could work.
- Alone, it could not cover my need for vit C. I took quite alot (5-10 grams daily) for one year or so. But it is a stable source of vit c, just not enough for a detox situation, in my experience.
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This is a reply to # 2,115,751Thank you. GABA has worked for me in the past. So has powdered Tryptophan. Love that stuff.
I am determined to make this all work for me eventually! I am reading online these bottles of AMLA say take around 10 tablets for just the daily recommended amount. That's too much of a hassle, in my opinion. Guess I will first try small amounts of the ascorbic acid when I'm ready. - Re: More gentle form of Vit. C? And ... RubyT
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This is a reply to # 2,115,751I've never heard of gelatin for sleep. I haven't slept through the night in a very long time. Just get the dry unflavored gelatin powder, any brand?
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This is a reply to # 2,115,868A couple of threads, ray peat`s article was what made me go for it;
//www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1927241
//www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=2104480&s=1#i1
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This is a reply to # 2,115,626Remember that Vitamin C is an acid. It can cause stomach ulcers and intestinal bleeding if you take too much.
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This is a reply to # 2,115,938Exactly.
Better to take it from oranges and the like fruits that you really need small amounts,because it is super-bioavailable in food form.- Re: More gentle form of Vit. C? And ... DMgirl
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This is a reply to # 2,115,947Gonna dust off my citrus juicer and start using that again after a week. Scary what too much can do.
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This is a reply to # 2,115,954"Remember that Vitamin C is an acid. It can cause stomach ulcers and intestinal bleeding if you take too much."
OK, over again :). Stomach acid is ph 1-2 at its best, when good health; it digest our food, make it ready for the intestines, while a too high ph will typically cause fermenting of the food (gas, pain, also bacterias survive = ulcers, other factors contribute).
ph 1-2 stomach acid does not cause ulcers nor intestinal bleeding. It is designed that way.
Ascorbic acid is approx ph 2,4. No reason that it cause ulcers either, if so animals would have a big problem with it; they typically produce 5 mg daily, if we convert it to a normal weight of a human. More if they are sick.
One of the biggest mistakes I made in my health journey, was believing that oranges could cover my need for vit c, or Amla, berries, fruits..
I really did believe it, quit all the ascorbic acid and had to pay for it.
Not that I dont recommend juicing, I do it daily myself; did this even more when I was a vegetarian, got ill, hypo T.
-what we do here at this forum, high dosages of Iodine need higher doses of the companions; more than food can provide.
I recommend all newbies to read up old threads; most is covered at this forum!
Ps. Dont turn this thread into a vit C debate, there are other forums more suitable.- Re: More gentle form of Vit. C? And ... #68716
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This is a reply to # 2,115,976"..they typically produce 5 mg daily..." Maybe you meant 5 grams, not mg.
Also, animals make their own ascorbate in their liver and it goes directly into the blood, not ingested through the stomach. The ascorbate from liver contains positive ions Mg, Ca, Na, K. So, the best answer I've come up with is formulate liquid Vit. C that is not the acid form of ascorbic acid, but rather is a solution of Mg, Sr, K, and Na salts of ascorbic acid.
I'm all good on vitamin C. What I have trouble getting enough of , is Vitamin G.
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This is a reply to # 2,115,947Oranges are a poor source of vitamin c, one could never eat or drink enough juice to get a proper dose.
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