Collagen intake to heal arteries and... 
iodoxer
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I have recently learned that I likely have an abdominal aortic aneurysm. It has me quite worried, particularly without health insurance, however I have started looking into some things and it seems as though one can rebuild arterial walls by raising the consumption of collagen.
After doing some research, it appears that our diets are seriously deficient (in western cuisine) of collagen sources. As I understand it, cholesterol is constantly being used by our bodies to patch the holes in our arteries due to this inadequate level of collagen and elastin.
I wanted to insert an interesting anecdote. I know someone who has incredibly high LDL cholesterol levels. This person is nearly 70 and has had these levels for over 15 years. The doctors seem to be somewhat baffled by it as they have tried to talk this person into taking anti cholesterol drugs and so forth. They've never had any heart problems even with these very elevated levels. From what the doctors told them, they should have already had major arterial blockages and severe problems. Upon doing some research I realized that this person eats a LOT of "Jello." They've eaten it their entire lives quite consistently. I now realize that this is why they look unbelievably young for their age as well...
BUT, after thinking more on this, I also started to think that perhaps this relatively large intake of collagen (compared to normal diets) could be what is preventing cardiovascular disease.
I've not found any direct statements on this so far, but are there any studies or even anecdotal evidence that collagen consumption (any form such as jello or bone broth, etc.) will offset cholesterol levels and yield healthy arteries?
Personally I have never liked jello. Likewise, doing a small survey, I found that everyone I know who has heart disease or cardiovascular disease does not like or consume jello or any kind of additional collagen source.
What are your thoughts? Could this be a holy grail of cardiovascular health? Obviously one should have a lot of other variables to produce your own collagen, BUT is it really possible to consume collagen and therefore ameliorate or seriously reduce these risks?
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- Re: Collagen intake to heal arteries... shotsee
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This is a reply to # 2,110,207Hi IO,
To assist you in finding a solution to your health issue(s), I encourage you, for your health's sake, to consider the information previously posted here: //www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2102488
I wish you the best of health, IO!
Sincerely,
David- Re: Collagen intake to heal arteries... iodoxer
11 y
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,111,005Thanks for the note. Yes, already have used high doses of C (ascorbic acid) for years, but never really helped much. I think the miracle we've all been missing is "Jello" -- the more I look, the more I'm amazed. Also Glutathione is even more critical I have found than C. Thanks!
- Re: Collagen intake to heal arteries... chrisb1
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This is a reply to # 2,111,575I would use the "Dynamic Flow Model" of using Vitamin C as outlined by Dr Steve Hickey and Hilary Roberts in their book: Ascorbate: The Science of Vitamin C.
They state that for Vitamin C to be effective, it is not only the dosage, but the frequency of that dosage that is most important. Try 4 Grams at 4 hour intervals for at least 4 weeks to the bowel tolerance level, and couple this with lower doses of the amino acids L-Lysine and L-Proline. - Re: Collagen intake to heal arteries... shotsee
11 y
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,111,575Hi IO,
Question: What do you mean by "high doses of C (ascorbic acid)," i.e. how much is "high?" Some people consider a gram or two a day "high."
Did you take a look at Dr. Cathcart's article? If so, you note that to ameliorate the symptoms of some health maladies, i.e. reach their Bowel Tolerance dose of ascorbic acid, some people needed in excess of 200 grams daily. So my question for you, IO, is were you reaching your Bowel Tolerance [daily] with ascorbic acid over those "years?"
I am just asking as an assitance to you in your search for a solution to your health situation.
And you are most welcome!
Best of health to you, IO,
David- Re: Collagen intake to heal arteries... iodoxer
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This is a reply to # 2,111,601I usually take about 2-6 grams a day and have no noticeable bowel distress. I am thinking about digging into liposomal vitamin c though as it seems easy enough to make.
- Re: Collagen intake to heal arteries... shotsee
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This is a reply to # 2,114,242Hi IO,
As "grist for your [health] mill," MY Bowel Tolerance [for ascorbic acid] has gone from around 10 grams per day, 19 years ago, to well in excess of 50 grams per day now [with only outstanding health to show for it]. I most certainly do encourage you to ingest the amount your body is willing to accept, i.e. actually wants, and therefore is indicating it needs, via its Bowel Tolerance reaction/indication.
I have read very good things about "liposomal C" but if it is in true liposomal form, it is very expensive [relative to ascorbic acid], and further, just as with intravenous ascorbate, you do not have the advantage of a Bowel Tolerance reaction to help to you know just how much you need at the moment.
Just trying to help, and best of health to you, IO,
David
- Re: Collagen intake to heal arteries... shotsee
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- Re: Collagen intake to heal arteries... iodoxer
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- Re: Collagen intake to heal arteries... chrisb1
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- Re: Collagen intake to heal arteries... iodoxer
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- Re: Collagen intake to heal arteries... theshark545
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This is a reply to # 2,110,207Hi, all my life everybody told me that high cholesterol is the main reason for heart disease. Due to that, I struggled lowering my high cholesterol for all my life. It's running genetically in my family. I tried anything - all kind of low fat diets, sports, natural supplements but nothing helped. 2 years ago I gave up and started taking statin. It helped lowering my cholesterol but I felt bad - I hate taking drugs and there are all the researches that say that statin is bad. So a year ago I came across with this site - http://bit.ly/19DmhsC
. I studied the material and I decided to give it a try - and the results are amazing!!! I stopped taking any medication and followed the instructions and in the past 9 months my health is great, my cholesterol is perfectly normal and in the first time in my life I eat the stuff I love!!! This is never happened to me in any other method! I really recommend to all people that wants to live healthy and enjoyable life – try this http://bit.ly/19DmhsC
- Re: Collagen intake to heal arteries... iodoxer
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This is a reply to # 2,114,150Your affiliate link of http://871735p9p6ycsy41n4vkaw3v53.hop.clickbank.net/?tid=CHOLESTEROL_LIE1
makes me think this is really an insincere reply. Sorry, no trust established.
- Re: Collagen intake to heal arteries... iodoxer
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- Re: Collagen intake to heal arteries... Kayka
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This is a reply to # 2,110,207It is very important to know what the cholesterol is from; what we are doing wrong, what we eat that we shouldn't. The cholesterol numbers are currently set up too low as well; they don't reflect the healthy levels.
If the body makes cholesterol it's only because our bodies need it. If we don't have anything to be fixed, the body will make less cholesterol. That means, that we need to look into what we eat, to stop eating processed food, bad fats, chemicals, MSG, aspartame, stop eating dairy/drinking milk if you don't have your own cow/goat ... our bodies know what is the best for them.
Jello is not the magic bullet. It's processed and probably laden with chemicals. There are other collagen rich foods that are not processed and have more benefits than jello.
Switch to wholefood clean diet, a lot of raw veggies and fruits, organic if possible, drink water instead of whatever drinks and you will see the difference; not only with cholesterol but with everything else. - Re: Collagen intake to heal arteries... BrightSideOfLife
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This is a reply to # 2,110,207Your probably better off eating soup stock regularly. That will provide you with what your body needs and what you claim you need but cannot stand eating. Your great grand parents probably ate lots of it. The old methods are still the best IMO. Progress in this world is not always forwards!
There are substances in berries, called anthocyanins, the natural colourings of red, blue and black berries which can be used by the body to strengthen the circulatory system and also prevent collagen cross linking. They can have some excellent anti ageing effects. BTW they are anti oxidants but not just any anti oxidants. Anti oxidants are also important because inflammation is meant to be a major cause of circulatory disease.
Adding some to your diet should help to some degree. - Re: Collagen intake to heal arteries... isoshot
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This is a reply to # 2,110,207I Like your post. Yes Collagen does help reduce cholesterol and heal tissue, skin, hair etc. There is abundant research about it online from manufacturers and Universities. We develop and manufacture collagen and other protein based drinks and collagen sales have gone through the roof. We sell it now to physical therapists, hospitals, weight loss centers, fitness centers....The main reason it does lower cholesterol is because in our product you get 15 grams of real protein in 76 calorie drink that you mix with water. It is liquid, stays in your body longer, packed with Amino Acids , fat free, cholesterol free, gluten free, fiber enhanced and tastes like kool aid.
I started substituting Collagen protein for red meats and basically most of my protein in the last year and I lost over 25 actual pounds of fat and my cholesterol went down as well. I also followed an exercise plan as well but the collagen filled me up and gave me energy. So try it out.. you can find different varieties of collagen but check out our liquid version that is diabetes friendly and fiber enhance. http://www.essen-nutrition.com
- Re: Collagen intake to heal arteries... shotsee
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