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Hello all,
I need your help.
I am terrified by what's happening.
I started taking Iodine at 1mg a day and yesterday a neck pain started to flare up, it is at the level of my thyroid, it isn't permanent but it comes and goes like 3 times a day for 2 mins at most.
The pain itself isn't annoying or painful but I'm scared to death, I don't know what's happening, is my thyroid growing into a goiter or is my thyroid shrinking?
I don't want to cause myself permanent damage, do any of you had this kind of neck pain when starting Iodine supplementation and how did it end up?
Btw this is what I take :
- Iodine 1mg
- 1700mg omega 3 (my omega6/omega3 ratio is between 2-3 which is pretty good)
- 3000mg vitamin C
- 10000UI vitamin D
- 1000UI vitamin E (not everyday though)
- 500mg elemental magnesium
- 12mg astaxanthin
I used to take selenium but I noticed that it rather slowed down my thyroid and I read studies about it causing weight gain which is the contrary of my goal so I dropped it.
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- Re: Neck pain after starting iodine ... rw4rm
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,091,712What I've gathered from what I read here is that if you are terribly deficient, your thyroid will temporarily swell to take in all the Iodine it can, then it will go back down. Mine is much smaller since I started iodine.
I think the Selenium is essential, but I'll let the experts comment on that. - Re: Neck pain after starting iodine ... Violien
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,091,712If you get selenium deficient while on (high) iodine, you will damage your thyroid. This hurts. Read Grizz's collected info on selenium here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_q9ixGwZFon9yidvmZ0IFbp3Vj5jXDmOp0HwpdBS6...
Dr. Tenpenny also has some excellent info on this, watch her video and read the transcript on this. They are in this section of Grizz's information: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_q9ixGwZFon9yidvmZ0IFbp3Vj5jXDmOp0HwpdBS6...
So, if you take iodine, always, always also take selenium.
If you take selenium without iodine, and you have an Iodine deficiency going on in your body, there will be no damage to your thyroid. The selenium will increase the conversion of T4 to T3 and this will then deplete the T4 (and eventually T3), which will make you feel hypothyroid. But the reason for the shortage of T4 (and the hypothyroidism/ slow thyroid) is not the selenium, the reason is the absence of iodine. The absence of Iodine is preventing the thyroid from making T4. Dr. Tenpenny explains all this in her video. She talks very fast, but just print out the transcript and read alongside watching the video: it makes it easier to understand.
Taking them both (selenium and iodine) together solves the problem. It is safest to start the selenium first and then after a month or so start adding in the iodine.
You will notice the pain reduce once you start the selenium. If/when you feel yourself getting hypothyroid again, you know you are Iodine deficient.- Re: Neck pain after starting iodine ... renfr
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Yes I am scared that too much H202 is being generated to create T4 and this might be the reason of my pain.
It's weird because I take a lot of antioxidants...
Thanks for the links. Will read the transcript when I have some time.
But what I read from Dr. Jeffrey Dach seems to confirm what I thought, there's probably too much H202 generated, I take already 80mcg selenium from diet.
However as I said to Trapper, selenium shuts down my metabolism (the one I take from brazil nuts, only one nut is enough to shut it down)...
Basically I have the choice of causing thyroiditis and endanger my own thyroid or take selenium but gain no benefit from Iodine supplementation, sounds great...
I took 400mcg Iodine today instead of 1mg, I didn't feel that pain yet, hope it's OK, maybe it's just my thyroid which can't handle that Iodine flood.
- Re: Neck pain after starting iodine ... renfr
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- Re: Neck pain after starting iodine ... grizz
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This is a reply to # 2,091,712Violien is correct.
Iodine & selenium are co-requisites, and one without the other are likely to cause thyroid problems.
After taking your 200mcg of selenium (L-selenomethionine preferred) with your supplements, then do the salt flush & pulse dosing in case of detox symptoms or if thyroid neck pain continues.
Some in my group have had to put a drop of Lugols into a bottle of water, then drink 1 ounce daily, and slowly titrate up from that dosage.
More here:
http://tinyurl.com/iodine-references
Grizz
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Salt flush didn't help, selenium helped but shut down my metabolism.
Maybe boron helped, at least it helped to shrink Acne (which I supposed was from fluoride detox, yes I drink a lot of tea however my toothpaste is always fluoride free).
- Re: Neck pain after starting iodine ... renfr
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- Re: Neck pain after starting iodine ... trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 2,091,712the thought of someone taking 1mg of Iodine terrifies me as well.
my advice:
dump the D
add the selenium back
take 100mg of Iodine per day minimum- Re: Neck pain after starting iodine ... renfr
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This is a reply to # 2,092,013Can you back up your claims?
Why dump the D? My vitamin D levels were at 16ng/mL when taking 2500IU, I need it to keep my levels right, my country isn't very sunny and I don't expose myself too much to sun.
And why would 100mg be safe and not 1mg? Any proof of that?
I'm taking 1mg because that's the intake of japanese people between 1-3mg, if they did that for centuries it's certainly safe...
On the other side, no one has ever done 100mg long term, I want you to know that I'm not trying to cure Breast Cancer or something very serious, I'm just taking Iodine to cure my Iodine deficiency induced hypothyroidism which is the reason of me being overweight.
As for the selenium, I took it but each time I take selenium (200mcg) it shuts down my thyroid and I have no bowel movement in the day, I dropped it when I noticed that the day I take selenium+iodine my BMs shuts down and when I take Iodine alone they come back.
And I need BMs to lose weight, if I don't have them I gain back what I lost.
This is for the experience part, for the scientific part, I have read several studies saying selenium cause weight gain and slows down the thyroid by eliminating H202 which is necessary for T4 synthesis and without T4 you get no T3.
Here's the study :
http://jn.nutrition.org/content/133/11/3443.long
"Although a role for selenium in thyroid hormone metabolism has been known for some time, this appears to be the first report of dietary selenium altering energy metabolism in humans. The increased TSH in the high selenium group and the body fat loss in the low selenium group indicate that these were physiologically important changes in thyroid status. "
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"Can you back up your claims?"
-Hey, this is not a forum for claims or proofs; we share our experience with Iodine and co factors, but for those who wants a docs test "proof" here is a recent one;
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2091139#i
When it comes to 1 mg vs 100 mg, just know that my cat get more Iodine than you:) almost every day. He is sharp!
The selenium is important for the convertion of thyroid hormones. If you take too much selenium vs iodine, as you probably did; yes it can cause weight gain as it worsen a hypo T condition.
http://www.greenwillowtree.com/Page.bok?file=selenium.iodine.html
100 mg is not only for breast cancer!! Halogen imbalance for a start:)
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This is a reply to # 2,091,712I have the same problem when I supplement iodine, even in combination with selenium. I had a small thyroid nodule 2 years ago and now I have multiple nodules. I do eat other sources of Iodine but haven't had my levels checked in a long time.
- Re: Neck pain after starting iodine ... fastgrowth
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This is a reply to # 2,091,712You're taking way too many supplements that have antagonist effects. Iodine is an oxidant and with that you're taking a bunch of antioxidants. I'm against the use of antioxidants because they have retardant characteristics, decreasing your metabolism, and becoming entrapped in your body systems.
Most likely you thyroid is full of magnesium and Astaxanthin, and that little Iodine you took if helping your body remove all the stuff you're taking from it. If I were in your position I'd suspend everything you're taking and experiment with a little Iodine for some time and see how that evolves.Advertisement
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