I'll try that actually...stopping it for a while...

It's Grape Seed Extract.

thanks but..this is for who exactly ? AF sufferers ? Please let me know what this is exactly, thanks.

Hmm. Like Marie said. Any type of detox reaction is bad for someone in our positions , bed bound, house bound, not working, etc. Please be careful. What got me into the later stages of AF, was a detox protocol from an ND. He said it would be great to cleanse the body. That put me over the edge, and I seriously almost died, or sure as hell felt like I was :) Had to stop working, and move back with parents.

Be very careful who you get advice from. ND's aren't liable for your health at all. MD's at least have licenses on the line, and reputation. I only trust them. Even some of them give poor advice, and we must end up playing doctor again. I seriously hate having problems only Natural Doctors understand. That's why I keep it simple. Low Cortisol, Hypothyroid, Depression, Anxiety. Nothing off the map like clogged liver, candida, food intolerances , etc.


Hope that helps :)

-Patrick

thx a lot. Yes, I take Grape Seed Extract, not Grapefruit Seed Extract.
I know the latter is anti-fungal, but I thought they were both the same...

I was going to ask the same thing - grapeFRUIT seed extract being different to grape seed extract.

It's amazing how many great herbal treatments are preserved in a bath of toxic ingredients. Check the ingredients.

I once bought liquid propolis...it was in a solution of propylene glycol.. (Thats the stuff that folk are smoking when they fashionably 'vape' - smoking & inhaling engine coolant!)

I was going to try GRAPEFRUIT seed extract at some point but think i will wait until stress and demands of life have calmed down - many people seem to get a strong reaction from the stuff.

If you have AF i guess that if candida is also a problem and you go for it with antifungals - the die-off will stress the adrenals more...and you'll feel extremely incapacitated.

I had a similar reaction while doing a parasite cleanse, and also a liquid fast. Too many toxins getting stirred up seems to really hit the adrenals hard.

I agree with others that it is a good idea to stop the protocol - re-adjust back to where you were - and try again, perhaps with a tiny tiny dose and build up very slowly.

NAC is good to take for candida die-off as it breaks down the extra acetaldehyde that the candida produces...aswell as boosting glutathione levels.

I hope you start to feel better soon.

thanks Paulette, it's very heart-warming !...
I just wish someone came out of nowhere and told me DO THIS ! And I'd do it and it'd work for once in my 7 years...

I'm certain it's parasites and/or candida, because wtvr I've ever done in those 7 years: great diet, physical activities, enemas last year...I've gotten worse by the month, the week...and some periods by the day...

If you look at my initial post, I clearly stated it was grapefruit seed extract. That said, mistakes happen.

thanks tpno. Your presence means everything to me.
I'm a bit better now, later at night, but from 5-9pm, it was absolute Hell on Earth. Really.
I'm definitely quitting that crap. I'll try GrapefruitSE soon enough, heard some great stuff about it.