Why am I throwing up? 
sarahhope
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I started taking L-tyrosine a week ago for thyroid support, ordered iodine, a good multi with iodine, and am treating parasites.
Both times it started by getting naseous, drinking my water with Bentonite and psyllium, and then it came right back up. All of it, like projectile.
I don't get it. I've taken the Bentonite and psyllium a ton of times and never had any thing like this. Does anyone know what coudl be causing this? I'm sort of afraid to take it now.
I was diagnosed Hashimotos, adrenal issues, and I have recently found evidence of tape, round flukes, and pin..plus suspect candida and obviously toxicity.
I was taking MSM and building up to 2 grams, but 4 days ago things got so bad I stopped all togather. I thought it was causing non-stop activity (it felt like constant movement), but it's possible that it was a combination of that plus the release of toxins by increasing cell permeability? My lymph and immune systems have clearly been burdened and therefore a lot of backed up toxins. Just curious if I am doing something I shouldn't be.
I also stopped doing daily coffee enemas which seemed to be working very well for me. Oh plus I ran out of the enema coffee that worked so well.
Last night while doing some research I learned that parasites may produce tyrosine hyrolase---or something like that...actually now that I recall, it is possible that it is a enzyme that processes tha amino acid, hence the -ase at the end.
Anyway, I know I'm just theorizing, but I wondered if perhaps it was pissing off the parasites or my system may just be very sensitive to things right now. Thought I would check as I'm fairly green when it comes to recovery this area.
Many thanks!
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- Re: Why am I throwing up? #168214
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This is a reply to # 2,068,500Daily enemas are not healthy, and can cause your intestines and colon to not be able to work properly anymore. Plus, coffee enemas cause caffeine addiction, which is probably what is causing your problems now. The caffeine is absorbed very quickly into your system with the coffee enemas, and causes addiction and if you stop suddenly, you go through withdrawals just like any other drugs. Nausea and migraine-like headaches are two symptoms of caffeine withdrawal.
It always amazes me how people let themselves think that doing an enema every day is healthy. Unless you are fighting cancer, it's probably one of the worst things you can do to your body. Depending on how long you've been doing them, your colon may be permanently damaged and you may have to be laxative or enema dependent to even have a BM anymore.
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- Re: Why am I throwing up? #145133
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This is a reply to # 2,068,792Hmm. I am pretty sure you will find varied opinions on the use of coffee enemas and enemas in general and many if not most will support the Coffee-Enema on this forum. Although some use regular coffee for their enemas, perhaps more use a specialized coffee such as SAWilsons (I don't know the names of other brands.) or others. Can't say for sure, but even so, results are very individual. The purpose of curezone is to offer alternatives. The OP would do well to do his/her own research to better understand any risks or benefits of the coffee enema or any other treatment used. 'Warnings' such as those you have written need to be heavily weighed against research and real experiences of other curezone posters.
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- Re: Why am I throwing up? omo
11 y
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This is a reply to # 2,068,823Would you like to know what folks in this forum think about coffee enemas? How about chip in any ideas you might have for a survey of that:
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2067417#i
- Re: Why am I throwing up? sarahhope
11 y
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Thanks for the imput and OMO, I will check the link and perhaps provide feedback.
I do not feel confused about the coffee enemas or that they are harming me in any way. It's interesting that the Gerson cure was primarily intended for cancer patients, yet has been proven effective for other chronically ill human beings.
Did you ever think that perhaps someone does Coffee-Enema bc they are so ill they feel like they have cancer? And they look like they have cancer? Perhaps they at times wished they had cancer so they could just get it over with and either be treated or die? Perhaps illness has made their life so bleak and coffee enemas provide them relief and hope?
Mac Gerson found, in his research and practice, that tumors could not exist in healthy tissues, which were obtained by means of scheduled coffee enemas. I am not in the mood to go down the list of health trials and tribulations I live with trying to overcome, but will say I ahve not had the experience you speak of. I have been able to stop and still have regular BM, in fact better BM. If tumors cannot exist in healthy tissues, than neither can parasites and the like, or at least makes it more difficult for them. Dr. Clark writes that cancer comes from parasites and since my body is laden with them, I suppose that is the next thing....are you suggesting I should just wait until I get cancer? I already have many questionable lumps and marks on my body, I'm sure I'm not far off. Are you a Medical doctor because this sure feels like the kind of insane interactions I have with them...with all due respect.
I have an education in biology and chemistry, but most of all, my deterioration of mind and body have given me the education of life and healing. Learning how to ask questions and do my research and not accept that I just have to sit here and waste away is part of my journey... taking risks and treating myself "unconventionally" might be the one thing that saves my life...clearly the 13 medical doctors at the best hospitals in the states are not concerned with saving it. So you may want to be careful about who you offer your biased advice to. If I had to do Coffee-Enema for the rest of my life to regain my health and life, I would do it.
And if I was unclear, I was concerned that the L-tyrosine caused vomiting in anyone, perhaps the Bentonite is not tolerated in some who has parasite infection. Those are the common denominators with the vomiting.
Have a fantastic day. - Re: Why am I throwing up? sarahhope
11 y
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This is a reply to # 2,068,969Thanks for the input and OMO, I will check the link and perhaps provide feedback.
I do not feel confused about the coffee enemas or that they are harming me in any way. It's interesting that the Gerson cure was primarily intended for cancer patients, yet has been proven effective for other chronically ill human beings.
Did you ever think that perhaps someone does Coffee-Enema bc they are so ill they feel like they have cancer? And they look like they have cancer? Perhaps they at times wished they had cancer so they could just get it over with and either be treated or die? Perhaps illness has made their life so bleak and coffee enemas provide them relief and hope?
Mac Gerson found, in his research and practice, that tumors could not exist in healthy tissues, which were obtained by means of scheduled coffee enemas. I am not in the mood to go down the list of health trials and tribulations I live with trying to overcome, but will say I ahve not had the experience you speak of. I have been able to stop and still have regular BM, in fact better BM. If tumors cannot exist in healthy tissues, than neither can parasites and the like, or at least makes it more difficult for them. Dr. Clark writes that cancer comes from parasites and since my body is laden with them, I suppose that is the next thing....are you suggesting I should just wait until I get cancer? I already have many questionable lumps and marks on my body, I'm sure I'm not far off. Are you a Medical doctor because this sure feels like the kind of insane interactions I have with them...with all due respect.
I have an education in biology and chemistry, but most of all, my deterioration of mind and body have given me the education of life and healing. Learning how to ask questions and do my research and not accept that I just have to sit here and waste away is part of my journey... taking risks and treating myself "unconventionally" might be the one thing that saves my life...clearly the 13 medical doctors at the best hospitals in the states are not concerned with saving it. So you may want to be careful about who you offer your biased advice to. If I had to do Coffee-Enema for the rest of my life to regain my health and life, I would do it.
And if I was unclear, I was concerned that the L-tyrosine caused vomiting in anyone, perhaps the Bentonite is not tolerated in some who has parasite infection. Those are the common denominators with the vomiting.
Have a fantastic day.
- Re: Why am I throwing up? saywhatagain
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Don't know why any of these things would induce vomiting. I do believe some people have problems with Bentonite and psyllium but you said you have used them before without a problem. You are definitely on the right track with trying to repair the endocrine system. Just be wary of practitioners that oversimplify things. Gerson and Clark has some great ideas, but there is much more to repairing and healing the body to their very oversimplified methods of detoxification. From their teachings, it really seems that they had very little understanding of the importance of the endocrine system and the nervous system and how to repair these systems. If your endocrine system is out of balance, yes you will likely have parasite infestation. If I were you, I would do plenty of research regarding supplementing with iodine, many people including myself, have had complications from this.- Re: Why am I throwing up? sarahhope
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This is a reply to # 2,069,021Thank you for that. I have done a lot of research and today started a thorough parasite protocol with all the appropriate supplements, enzymes, etc. Plus I ordered some iodine, but think I am suppose to wait until the end of the cleanse. I have a heavy infection of pin, fluke, tape, and ascaris---that I know of...I imagine candida issues as well, although I rarely get yeast infections(not sure that means anything).
Bentonite and psyllium actually have provided me a ton of relief combined with the CE...it was imperative that I reduced the acidity/toxicity and was able to notice a big improvement from this. I will move on to more thorough cleansing once i have reduced the load. I beleive juicing has been helping quite a bit as well.
:)
- Re: Why am I throwing up? sd2345
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The only time I have ever been nauseaus with a worm infection is when I had some sort of upper intestinal blockage, which I assumed when the liver dumped bile and toxins reguarly, it was making me sick because it could not get out and would come back up to my stomach. Just speculation on my part, but it did go away when I cleared the blockage.
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- Re: Why am I throwing up? #155216
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This is a reply to # 2,069,021*Dr.* Max Gerson was a medical doctor first before he came up with his cancer healing program. In what way was he misinformed about the endocrine system?
In what way was Hulda Clark misinformed about the endocrine system?
Have you read any of her books from cover to cover - all 600+ pages?
- Re: Why am I throwing up? sarahhope
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- Re: Why am I throwing up? omo
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but will say I ahve not had the experience you speak of
You must be talking to the other commenter. I didn't speak of any experience. Please don't confuse us.- Re: Why am I throwing up? sarahhope
11 y
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This is a reply to # 2,069,193I did not confuse you. It was my intent to thank you and the other poster for your helpful information. My apologies for not making myself clear. I suppose I should have clicked on the first person's post...simply operator error.
- Re: Why am I throwing up? sarahhope
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- Re: Why am I throwing up? saywhatagain
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- Re: Why am I throwing up? purplepixie
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This is a reply to # 2,068,500Hi Sarah,
I experienced the same thing with the PB shakes while doing a parasite cleanse - Projectile vomit as soon as i took it in!!...the only different is that i took garlic, while you're taking MSM.
Both of those are sulfur foods - which i subsequently found out i have a extra fast transulfation pathway and now have cut-out sulfur foods and am not feeling the daily nausea i once was.
So perhaps try to cut out the MSM...have a couple of days off the PB, let things settle down, and try the PB shakes again?
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- Re: Why am I throwing up? sarahhope
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This is a reply to # 2,069,345Thank you so much Purplepixie! Super helpful. I noticed today feeling very nauseous after taking MSM...now that I'm in the thick of para cleansing I thought, Oh God no, please don't let me throw up...(afraid of what might come up).
I actually took a few days off from the MSM and now seems to be ok again, but I am also not doing the PnB shakes bc I'm afraid they would absorb the medicine. Do you know anything about this. I picked up some yogurt tonight as a means of eating lots of ground flax for fiber.
Take care- Re: Why am I throwing up? purplepixie
11 y
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This is a reply to # 2,069,412Sounds like the MSM could be the issue if you noticed nausea again after taking it.
The clay, being ultra-absorbable will absorb whatever else you're supplementally taking, unless you take the clay first thing in the morning an hour or two before taking anything else - or last thing at night.
Another thing to consider is that cloves are histamine forming. I didn't know this at the time i did my parasite cleanse, and as i am histamine-intolerant, the stomach cramps, nausea, leathargy and brainfog i developed straight into the cleanse leads me to now consider that perhaps the cloves caused many of those symptoms - so if you know you're sensitive with histamine that's another angle to consider.
What else to use other than cloves i don't know! I still have many para-cleanse capsules left and know cloves are an important part - perhaps that's why some not so sensitive to histamine do well on the cleanse and carry on with their everyday life, while others go through bowel-hell and can barely get out of bed?!
If you're taking a parasite cleanse with all the herbs separately maybe if after cutting out the MSM, you could try cutting out the cloves and continue with the other para-herbs to see if cloves are the problem for you also?
I hope you feel relief soon! hang in there :-)- Re: Why am I throwing up? sarahhope
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Thanks Purplepixie!
I'm feeling better now. I stopped the L-tyrosine and the PnB shakes a) because they are not part of this protocol and b) I think the L-tyrosine was giving me stomach upset. I suspect I was simply to toxic and trying to repair/eliminate too much at once.
I'm taking it all in stride now and seem to have turned the corner on the worst of the symptoms. I will resume the pnb shakes for sure during my off weeks with juicing and Coffee-Enema to repair my tissues and rest my organs.
: )
- Re: Why am I throwing up? sarahhope
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