Die off or inflammation? Kefir tales 
SeattleK
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Hello all,
I recently started making homemade water kefir (drinking about 4-6 oz per day), and taking tumeric (1 teaspoon per day) in addition to a couple tablespoons of apple cider vinegar per day.
I am noticing my insomnia, heart palpitations, and GERD issues have kicked up as I have added these things back in. I have also been ridiculously tired, but insomnia will do that to you whether or not die off is involved. I can see why Tumeric might cause a GERD flare up, but is water kefir acidic or irritating in any way to the gut? (I stopped tumeric 2 days ago, symptoms haven't changed)
Any sense whether this is a good sign that candida is dying and just irritating my gut inevitably, or whether I should back off? I miss sleeping, and a return of my least favorite symptoms is a bit disconcerting.
My biggest issue is that I feel bad after eating, and that I have significant heart palpitations. Quite confident i have candida, however I do not know how severe at this point.
Any advice is welcomed!
- Re: Die off or inflammation? Kefir t... Kcirla
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,047,247Water kefir is not irritating to the gut at all. It could very well be die-off, although I didn't experience too much of it with water kefir. Goat milk kefir was far more potent for me.
Also, how much Sugar do you put per quart of water for your kefir? How long do you ferment it?- Re: Die off or inflammation? Kefir t... LymegirlPA
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,047,249I have found that any good probiotic I use (including water kefir) causes some die-off & temporary inflammation due to that die-off. The inflammation is what triggers my GERD, so I just have to start slowly. Just as aside John Douillard at http://www.lifespa.com
has the best explanation for causes of GERD/acid reflux I've ever read. Mine turns out to be sluggish bile which I correct by eating beet/carrot salad w/breakfast & lunch. I know many candida suffers can't eat root veggies, but for me the extra bile produced seems to kill off some of the candida.
- Re: Die off or inflammation? Kefir t... LymegirlPA
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- Re: Die off or inflammation? Kefir t... dave505
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This is a reply to # 2,047,247I would try taking the ACV off for several days and see. And do let us know how is it going after.
Although a good supplement ACV could be to strong for the mucosa of an inflamed gut AND also for those with taxed adrenals (like many candida sufferers are). It contains HUGE amount of potassium which is ok for normal people but not ok for AF sufferers. Try without it for several days and see if any improvements in sleep and mood.
Just try some baking soda in water small amounts apart from meals to see if it helps and avoid diuretic food or high potassium.
Except the case you have certain type of SIBO in which Probiotics are not recommended - water kefir should be ok small amount in the beginning. I did not try yet water kefir but milk kefir for me is not ok due to lactose intolerance caused by giardia.
Let us know your progress k
And hope you'll be back in shape in several days.
- Re: Die off or inflammation? Kefir t... SeattleK
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This is a reply to # 2,047,264Thanks all. I am going to put the brakes on and wait for the symptoms to stop (hopefully in a few days).
I guess I will add things back one by one from there then, starting with the water kefir, and if that goes well finally with the ACV, and try to tease out what here is problematic. I have a feeling that each of these is irritating my gut tho (or that they are causing die off which is).
I also have an extremely strong symptom match with candida so I have moved forward under the assumption I have it, but I have never been tested so I suppose its possible I have parasites and/or SIBO too..?
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- Re: Die off or inflammation? Kefir t... SeattleK
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- Re: Die off or inflammation? Kefir t... Kcirla
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