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It must be possible. What if everyone who has ever been on the brink of death and was told by the AMA there was no hope, and took responsibility for their own health, recovered and is doing well ten years later were to bring a class action suit against the FDA for the harm they are doing by prohibiting companies and people who promote and sell herbal products and supplements from fully disclosing the true potential benefits of their products by prohibiting them from informing people that Natural Medicine, Plant Medicine, which was developed from 10 milion years of evolutionary research by God, can and will cure, treat, mitigate and prevent diseases much more effectively than any drug that has ever been concocted in a few short years by human beings wearing lab coats, regardless of how educated they are.
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http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/suing-government-negligence-FTCA-29705...
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- Re: How to Sue the Government johng
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This is a reply to # 2,037,350Tough road there... This type of claim is typically barred under the legal doctrine of sovereign immunity:
http://www.justanswer.com/law/1elrn-can-t-plaintiff-s-sue-fda-approving-harmf...
As if that should surprise anyone around here. Anyway, in short, there are laws that permit certain types of lawsuits against the government (civil rights violations for example), but claims against the FDA for negligence... I don't think so. The court system is pretty much a black hole anyway... Best avoided unless you really know what you are getting into.
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Meanwhile Talmudic law, in the form of the misnamed “Noahide Law” (which has nothing to do with the Biblical Noah, who the rabbinic texts malign and mock), is already Public Law 102-14.
Furthermore, American attorneys and judges, as part of their professional continuing education, are regularly solicited to attend accredited legal seminars operated by Talmudic rabbis. These are in fact well-attended by gentile law professors, lawyers and magistrates. The seminars are convened by the Cardozo School of Law in New York City and endorsed by Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, as well as being sponsored by bar associations across the U.S. For example, in Missouri last June, Chabad-Lubavitch (whose rabbis have applauded the Torat Hamelech book), convened the “17th Conference on Talmud and Contemporary Law,” sponsored by the Missouri Bar and approved for Continuing Legal Education (CLE) credit.- Re: How to Sue the Government glaxony
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This is a reply to # 2,037,358next thing you know they will be cutting off women's clitorises to keep their mouths shut
we need to ask questions that will turn these beasts masquerading as judges faces beet red and make them jump off the bench and run out of the courtroom - Re: How to Sue the Government johng
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This is a reply to # 2,037,358Sadly, very true... Even still, most lawyers and judges would not recognize it. It is also true that the Talmudic approach reduces spirituality to the level of a legal code... A far cry from humanity's true birthright and potential. But, having given it some thought, it appears that this may be all that some are capable of.... A perverse and twisted substitution...
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why are government institutions being DE CLAREd sovereign instead of human beings????
http://business.time.com/2013/01/09/a-heaping-helping-of-chutzpah-aig-conside...
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This is a reply to # 2,037,353civil rights are rights that prevent the government from infringing on an individual's freedom
what could be more important than an individuals freedom to pursue health?
how could this NOT be a civil right????- Re: How to Sue the Government johng
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This is a reply to # 2,037,361A common sense understanding will get you nowhere. The system has been built up, layer upon layer over the years, so that one the lawyer class and those with the funds to pay them can operate in the legal system. Not much of makes much sense logically anymore. If you go into a legal situation relying on common sense, you will find out quickly that the system operates on a different level.
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This is a reply to # 2,037,365you say-
A common sense understanding will get you nowhere.
Gee thanks! And all this time I thought my problem was the opposite and that I needed more common sense. I don't know whether to be relieved or disheartened.
Seems a Tower of Babel spell has been cast upon our society to help capture it. - Re: How to Sue the Government johng
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- Glax........ #69242
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This is a reply to # 2,037,350You know how much I love you......
But it would be a frivolous lawsuit.
Not worth anyone's time........................
I have actually been working for the G since '95.
And people want to sue the Government for all types of things.
And once in a blue moon they hold .... me .... a low level employee responsible.
I am not going to pretend to be a lawyer here..........
But "Western Medicine" drugs need to go through trials.
For better or for worse......
Not the same for alternative medicine..........
For better or for worse..............
People could ultimately claim that rat poison cures herpes.
Obviously it doesn't.
So these things get by on a wink and a nod.
Which is probably the best place for it...........
Do you know how many outrageous claims have been made?
From the likes of Kevin Trudeau and Hulda Clark?
It's lucky the whole kit'n'kaboodle hasn't been shut down just from those two.........
Alternative Medicine is an incredible thing.
But there is just as many scammers in it as the Western Style.
Maybe not the money........
But too many people trying to make a buck to allow anyone to advertise a "cancer cure" to the masses.
Yeah it sucks. Cuz there are some honest people in alternative medicine.
But this whole issue is pretty much a non-issue.
Courts deal with laws and evidence and proof.
That's just the way it is.
For better or for worse.
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This is a reply to # 2,037,378I do love you too.
And I know you are telling me that "frivolous" is what they will call it.
None the less, I would respond by asking what in the deep black hole of insanity is frivolous about we the people wanting to live healthy lives and use God's medicine the plants instead of submitting our bodies to the AMA for torturous abuse????!!!!
They don't have to require a ten million dollar investment in research to substantiate the claim that garlic lowers blood pressure and stops pinworms from biting your bohunk if you stick a clove up your arse. All they have to do is try it and they will know it is the truth. Anybody with the constitution to use garlic can find out if it works without any research at all. And a clump of garlic only costs $1.50, so what is the big deal if I get some that has been irradiated until it is rotten at the core. Throw it away and buy some at the Farmer's Market! What are they really protecting???? The amount of research the FDA requires before they will allow truth to be put on labels is the real frivolous waste.
Everything is sdrawkcab ssab !!!!
How did the world get this way?
I am ready if you are.
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This is a reply to # 2,037,380G - I am coming from a legal standpoint.
You from an emotional one.
I hear you........
But still..................
Anyway................................
If you are going to go shake 'em up........
An oldie but a goodie!..................
Luv ya........
Tommy
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That is the way things are.
But they should not be that way.
And it is our responsibility to set things right.
The law was opportunistically written to protect Big Pharm.
If somebody is accused of selling snake oil, all you have to do is analyze the syrup, and find out what is in it.
Who is going to buy a second bottle if the first one didn't help them? Nobody. Even a snake oil salesman isn't stupid enough to put a gun to people's heads and tell them they have to buy more. People only buy more if the first bottle helped them. AND, I use to manage a vitamin store. Every single hub I bought from stood buy their products and replaced them if a customer asked for a refund. And hardly anyone ever did because the products are effective.
I told all my customers just to bring them back if they didn't work, and try something else. There is absolutely nothing for the FDA to be protecting people from
Yet they set it up so that companies with effective products have to prove they are innocent of selling snake oil before they can do business?!?!? Horse manure. Somebody ought to give them a horse manure enema. The current policy is a genuine infringement of the government upon freedom. It is a violation of civil liberty. And instead of saying "Whoa!!! No Way!" Everybody just nodded like a dashboard doggy and agreed it had to be that way. So they got away with the atrocity for 100 years. When is the American public going to eat enough spinach to strengthen it's spine?
Never if the FDA has it's way.
We have to stop this bull corny bad joke will you please be willing to die quietly and suffer significantly unnecessarily so drug companies can make a bunch of money and continue to kill people by the suppression of information.- Re: Glax........ #69242
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This is a reply to # 2,037,385"If somebody is accused of selling snake oil, all you have to do is analyze the syrup, and find out what is in it."
That's the rub. You nailed it G.
The burden of proof will be that what is in that bottle performs as advertised.
If you have a miracle herb or syrup that cures cancer.....
Provide the proof.................................
Just saying the ingredients as written on the bottle are accurate.......................
Yeah, obviously that is a no-brainer...........
Claiming a cancer cure or miraculous health benefits????
Better be prepared to pony up the goods...............
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Totally admire your SPIRIT and wish more americans (US) would have this attitude.
You guys obviously "got this bad" because no one had the guts to stand up and say NO!
Remember reading not too long back - on CZ - that there are some folks out there suing the a$$$holes. Will need to search for that post.
Thanks for being healthy and strong enough to broach the subject, instead of just compplaining.
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- Re: Glax........ glaxony
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This is a reply to # 2,037,399They have it backwards. The company should be allowed to help people. And if there are people who suspect the product is horse manure, the government should analyze the product to see what is in it. That is the rub.
They have it backwards, not to protect the public, but to protect the pharmaceutical companies from legitimate natural products that have fewer side effects.
IN this country you are considered innocent until proven guilty. Unless you sell herbs. Then you are guilty unless you can afford to spend $10 million dollars on research proving you are innocent. That is wrong.
In this country they recognize big businesses and governments as sovereign, and refuse to set free competent individuals, who have harmed nobody. This needs to change. And it won't unless the people bribe the politicians to do the right thing.
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This is a reply to # 2,037,350The government and Al Gore love this. They want to tax you for breathing. Carbon Dioxide is what plants breath. The plants produce oxygen which cool the Earth and we breath. Every time you exhale you release Carbon Dioxide. The more Carbon Dioxide in the air the better for the plants. Your car produces carbon dioxide but they won't let any other clean fuel like alcohol become available.
Methane is more likely to cause global warming yet they never bring it up?
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