Problem with Pantethine Complex. Any... 
Faith110
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I've been on 3000 mg of Liopsomal Vitamin C for about a month now and it's really worked wonders for me. No more fatigue (but not stimulant type energy either). Sleeping better at night, getting tired when I'm supposed to and waking at a decent hour, feeling pretty rested.
Most of the research I've done has suggested Pantethine/Pantothenic Acid along with the vitamin C. I bought a pantethine/pantothenic acid complex and took one pill yesterday (equal to 150mg of each). All day I felt EXHAUSTED. I was dragging around, felt spacey and achy. I haven't felt like that in over a month. I was worried that I was heading into a crash, but I got a good night sleep and felt much better this morning.
I also was thinking that maybe my body was trying to reset, so I took my C again today and figured if it made me feel like I did yesterday then I was resetting and it wasn't the b5. But I felt better all day on my regular dose of C.
Does anyone else have a problem taking the b5? I can't take royal jelly either due to issues with estrogen, and I'm allergic to bee pollen.
Is it possible to pursue a recovery program that doesn't include the B vitamin supplements?Advertisement
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- Re: Problem with Pantethine Complex.... #155216
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This is a reply to # 2,006,722I would discontinue it; it sounds like one of those paradoxical reactions that AF people get a lot. Just stay with the lipo C. Or try a very small dose or small dose of b complex.
question for you about the c, which brand are you taking?
have you heard of this brand
http://www.liposomalvitamins.com/acatalog/Vitamin_C.html
or do you have an opinion on it?- Re: Problem with Pantethine Complex.... lalobear
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,006,858Can either of you tell me what the Lipo C is for? Can anyone with AF take it? I know Dr. Lam had recommended it to me but I chickened out about trying his protocol. Plus he is mega expensive to work with.
- Re: Problem with Pantethine Complex.... Klauss
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This is a reply to # 2,006,860Lam explains that in AF some forms of Vitamin C absorbed better than the others. So, he suggests to take water soluble form used to be Quantum C, water soluble C support and the liponano form that is supposed to absorb better. Normally less than 20% of vitamin C is absorbed. LipoNano C abosbsion rate is close to IV. I could feel a boost from liponano than it level down. You will find many positive articles on Lipo Nano, also there are many negative ones.
Klauss. - Re: Problem with Pantethine Complex.... hotswap
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This is a reply to # 2,006,860I found it to be like rocket fuel, and not in a good way. For me personally it was the most potent of Dr Lam's supplements.
Others have seen good results though. - Re: Problem with Pantethine Complex.... Faith110
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This is a reply to # 2,006,860Lalobear,
Vitamin C is the absolute best thing in the world you can do for your adrenals. It saved my life when I was at my worst.
The Liposomal vitamin C is basically vitamin C that is coated with lecithin. This makes it 90% more effective because the coating helps it get through your stomach acids and into your small intestines where it is optimally absorbed.
Check out my post above. I provided the links to where I buy my lecithin and how I make the lipo C, as well as the brand of C I use. It's much cheaper to do it this way and works just as well as Lam's stuff, in my opinion. I found it to be much more gentle, and you can adjust the amount of C as you need to when making it yourself.
I was secondary Addison's, but refused hydrocortisone because of the horrible side effects it causes. The lipo C was the best thing I did for myself, supplement-wise.Advertisement
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- Re: Problem with Pantethine Complex.... LoricaLady
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This is a reply to # 2,006,860Lipsomal C is a form of C that is encapsulated - sometimes with non Genetically-Modified-Organisms soy lechithin (& soy lecithin does not hurt the thyroid like regular soy) - so that, unlike regular oral C, it does not get lost in the GI tract but can get through to the liver where it is needed.
You can make your own liposomal C, lot of info on that on the net & on Youtube in particular. Easy & cheap & it has worked great for me, though I drink the whole 1 1/2 cup formula every day.
- Re: Problem with Pantethine Complex.... Klauss
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- Re: Problem with Pantethine Complex.... Faith110
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This is a reply to # 2,006,858Yeah, that's what I figured. I'm just listening to my body and if it doesn't want something I'm not going to force it.
I actually make my own lipo C. It's just as effective and way cheaper. I was using plain old ascorbic acid crystals, but then I switched over to organic Alive by Nature's Way whole food vitamin C powder. It's much more gentle on the stomach, and I find that my body likes it much better.
As for the lecithin, I have thyroid issues so I stay away from the soy. I order organic brown rice lecithin from Living Tree Community Foods:
http://www.livingtreecommunity.com/store2/product.asp?id=274&catid=23
It's really easy to make your own lipo C. All you need is an ultrasonic jewelry cleaner. Check out this link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeU--wadrMY
I saved a ton of money doing it this way, and I find that it works just as well as buying it pre-made
- Re: Problem with Pantethine Complex.... lalobear
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- Re: Problem with Pantethine Complex.... Sherpa
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Sorry you had such a bad reaction to it. For me it was a CRUCIAL supplement to get my stress tolerance up to where I can handle normal things again.
Before I started Pantethine Complex (Vitamin Shoppe brand)I was a wreck.
I worked from 1 tablet a day up to 8 per day in a short time.
My body seemed to love it, as long as I take it with food. It can irritate an empty stomach.
I would wait a while and start again with maybe 1/4 tablet, with food, and slowly work up from there.- Re: Problem with Pantethine Complex.... Faith110
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This is a reply to # 2,006,949Sherpa-
Yes it was a weird reaction. I really haven't had any fatigue lately, and I can drive again, clean my house, cook my meals etc. To most this doesn't sound like much, but for me it's huge! Last month I could barely get to the bathroom without feeling like I was going to have a heart attack.
My biggest complaint is still the hypoglycemia and that looming feeling of being wired and tense. I get headaches on and off and some brain fog. But my energy level is pretty good. Not running marathons yet, but functioning. The anxiety is gone THANK GOD!!
I'm taking that stuff back to the vitamin shoppe. I hated how it made me feel. I eat brown rice very regularly (which has alot of B's naturally) and I also do brown rice lecithin in my lipo C (more B's). So I think I will stick to whole food sources.
Even my mother who is very healthy and has perfectly fine adrenals says that B supplements make her feel strange too.
- Re: Problem with Pantethine Complex.... Faith110
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