Didn't pass the Lyme test... So, gam... 
krosser
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I got DNA sets for two mostly spread Lyme spirochetes in Europe: B.Afzelii and B.Garinii. I ran Afzelli first but didn't notice anything really, but yesterday I ran Garinii and got strong hits mostly in the head and chest. So, will continue running them regularly. Felt a lot better today actually. For instance, could feel ease of movement in my overall body during a laid-back sprint session on a track. Quite happy about this.
Ran the DNAs today again in the morning before the session and kept running them on the bean while I was out and about the whole day. Felt it in the morning, but not as strongly as yesterday.
So I wanted to ask you guys, experienced in Lyme. If you find out you have B.garinii, then what other types you might have, apart from B.afzelii or you just go with the ones seen in Europe, like I did? Would you still check Burgdorferi as well?
Any advice on what also comes along especially with B.garinii? Is Bartonella always present too, for instance?
For those who might be interested, I'm using this heading:
program a backfreq b 0 0
backfreq c 28004531.1544 43.333 # added carrier
pulse 778778 66.6 # Pick Heavy Metal Modulator (Hg=784784 Pb=779779 both=778778)
duty 86.4
dwell 300
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- Re: Didn't pass the Lyme test... So,... johng
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This is a reply to # 1,999,363i generally just let the doctrine handle lyme for me... though once in awhile i might run of these:
//www.curezone.org/blogs/fm.asp?i=1543523#i
other forms of lime have their own scr1pt in Newport's blog at the link.- Re: Didn't pass the Lyme test... So,... Newport
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This is a reply to # 1,999,367B.garinii spreads like a virus yet no one was testing for it.
I think one or two are now..
..add Mercury for instant:
Neurological issues, Lymph issues, arthritic pain in large joints; knee, hip, shoulder
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- Re: Didn't pass the Lyme test... So,... Mannequin
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,999,363From my experience the world is so globalized that we don't really have regional lyme disease anymore. It's all one big happy spirochete family.
Depending on when they hatch I get hits from all three DNA (using the old NP DNA hatchlings script). It feels like they spawn in the spinal fluid, pressure builds up and they release in any opening available (for me it's typically at the base of the spine, and especially if I lean or have bad posture, they poor out). Within 24 hours all my damaged tissue (like the neck, arm and shoulder, upper back) start to burn.
One round on the DNA hatchlings scr1pt and it all goes away and all I'm left with is the chronic deficiencies they cause, the residual damage and the big mega-crawlers destroying tissue etc.
To me having lyme disease is the same as having your immune system turned off. You're a sponge picking up any old thing you come into contact with. Whatever blows in on the wind, whatever is in the soil, whatever is in the dust. Whoever delivered your mail. It's like horror christmas all year long. I'd be very surprised if Bart/Bab etc aren't an issue for you. Look up MCIDS - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQnlnbbON_8
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- Re: Didn't pass the Lyme test... So,... krosser
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This is a reply to # 1,999,369>>>...we don't really have regional lyme disease anymore. It's all one big happy spirochete family.
Guess you are right.
From: http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/11/11/05-0542_article.htm
At least 5 species of the Borrelia burgdorferi sensu lato complex, B. burgdorferi sensu stricto, B. afzelii, B. garinii, B. bissettii, and B. lusitaniae, have a pathogenic role in human Lyme disease in central Europe. - Re: Didn't pass the Lyme test... So,... krosser
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This is a reply to # 1,999,369Did you try DNA freqs for Bartonella, Babesia, Ehrlichia and Brucella? If you did, any review on them?
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- Re: Didn't pass the Lyme test... So,... musimesipomahat
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This is a reply to # 1,999,363I also let doctrine handle the lyme bacterias, as per my opinion is best since there are other critters which would very definitely carry it and then it's like a spiral chasing anyway. All the info i read about the Lyme (except the medicomafia, they have no idea anyway) says to first get rid of other larger parasites and then it's relatively easy to get rid of lyme bacterias because nothing is holding them and allowing them to grow like crazy again
- Re: Didn't pass the Lyme test... So,... Mannequin
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This is a reply to # 1,999,383I agree in the concept of large guys protecting the small guys...but none of the treatments I've tried so far have even TOUCHED the big guys. They seem invincible. The small guys I can knock back with the bean fairly easily though.
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- Re: Didn't pass the Lyme test... So,... krosser
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This is a reply to # 1,999,363Well, guys, if anyone tells me why having been on the Doctrine since last spring Lyme hasn't been addressed for me, I will applaud them. No joke.
- Re: Didn't pass the Lyme test... So,... elan164
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This is a reply to # 1,999,392Maybe the doctrines been in limbo, newport said a week ago that its throttle up to 100 percent again. Maybe you have other things the doctrine needs to address before lyme?
It sucks when its a guessing game with whats going on. For all i know half the freqs ive been running the last year might not have even reached me. Still seems like theres progress though. Maybe placebo, maybe head fakes. I do see proof in the toilet though. Colloidal Silver and Iodine seem to cause some serious die off.- Re: Didn't pass the Lyme test... So,... krosser
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This is a reply to # 1,999,427Good thing you see some proof in the toilet cos I don't... After eating only full fat cheeses from raw milk, SCD yogurt and kefir for some time you can count on spotting something extraordinary floating down there, but nope, same old...
If I knew what that limbo was that the Doctrine likes to dance, I'd be only glad to.- Re: Didn't pass the Lyme test... So,... elan164
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This is a reply to # 1,999,716Have you ever taken both vervains? Done CEs? Mag malate? High dose ascorbic acid? All these things are bound to flush some stuff out. Especially ascorbic acid and salt, i get flukes out every time, recently some purple ones.
- Re: Didn't pass the Lyme test... So,... krosser
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This is a reply to # 1,999,732Have you ever taken both vervains? - Only real vervain
Done CEs? - Nope, no organic coffee
Mag malate? - yes, went through many bottles
High dose ascorbic acid? - yes, went through a few kg + with MSM
salt - yes, done salt too
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This is a reply to # 1,999,427just a thought re the Doctrine... keep in mind that most of the long-term users of the D had run many scriipts using different sorts of electrodes and plasma before and often for months and years, using the CAFL, Jeff's, DNA, NP's freqs and whatnot... Therefore, those people had different pathogen & toxin load when the D came along.
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- Re: Didn't pass the Lyme test... So,... MatrixA
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This is a reply to # 1,999,392**Well, guys, if anyone tells me why having been on the Doctrine since last spring Lyme hasn't been addressed for me, I will applaud them. No joke.**
well, i dunno, maybe lets start with, your lack of barely malt intake since, i dunno, EVER.
from what ive read and experienced, nothing has die off like lyme, gold medalist. from ammonia to mercury and some other toxins, lyme die off is brutal. thats why i am not relying on the doctrine to get lyme for me. i want to know exactly when its been killed so i can cater to the die-off, and get rid of one of THE worst pathogen groups around as quickly as possible.
if u didnt get much die-off u probably didnt have much lyme. i just run all of N's scr7pts for 30s or so and bg for 10s and im dooooone.
instead of applause ill take some brownies, the special kind.-
Re: Didn't pass the Lyme test... So,... krosser
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This is a reply to # 1,999,455I got that organic Eden Foods Barley Malt stuff at the beginning, but didn't really experience much from it... Man, it's way too expensive here - 16 bucks for a jar!
>>if u didnt get much die-off u probably didnt have much lyme.
hmm, probably... but those first hits were real strong, just the way I like it, man! lol
>>>i just run all of N's scr7pts for 30s or so and bg for 10s and im dooooone.
well, I can run them many times a day without much impact on me.
>>>instead of applause ill take some brownies, the special kind.
haha.. "you got it!"
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This is a reply to # 1,999,703I got that organic Eden Foods Barley Malt stuff at the beginning, but didn't really experience much from it... Man, it's way too expensive here - 16 bucks for a jar!>>>
jesum petes. i go through a jar roughly every 2-3 days. tis an absolute staple. i swear i can literally feel it clearing out my brain.
it looses its enzymatic power quickly, so if the place u got it from didnt keep it frozen or fridged, that might explain why didnt notice much.
u need to make it, asap!
**but those first hits were real strong**
interisting, may be all ur running helps dramatically with the die-off or something. i know for me, the lymph blockage scr1pt seemed to really help w/herx.- Re: Didn't pass the Lyme test... So,... krosser
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This is a reply to # 1,999,869>>> i go through a jar roughly every 2-3 days.
man, I just can't afford that when it's 16 bucks a jar, it's like eating gold coins...
>>>it looses its enzymatic power quickly, so if the place u got it from didnt keep it frozen or fridged, that might explain why didnt notice much
well, that's a thought! I didn't know that... All the stuff comes from the States, so by the time it gets here it might lose it's quality and I doubt they keep it frozen...
BTW extracts don't have the same features as the syrup.
>>>u need to make it, asap!
well, if only that was easy to make... did you try it?- Re: Didn't pass the Lyme test... So,... MatrixA
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This is a reply to # 2,000,069i dont know why i need so much malt, dont think its for the aspartate either because when i take potassium aspartate i do not get the good brain clearing feeling like with malt. but it fluctuates, sometimes it takes me about a week to go trough a jar.
its only 5$ a jar here (yea sucka:) so i havent looked into making it yet. i dont know whats more valuable at this point, time or $ :|- Re: Didn't pass the Lyme test... So,... krosser
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This is a reply to # 2,000,143do you dowse for the amount you need, etc. or just take as you feel it?
well, at this point I'd rather invest in DNA sets and get some decent hits...- Re: Didn't pass the Lyme test... So,... MatrixA
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This is a reply to # 2,000,611just as i feel it.
**well, at this point I'd rather invest in DNA sets and get some decent hits...**
suit it yourself..
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This is a reply to # 1,999,392because the doctrine is mostly just the placebo effect
Now there is nothing wrong with that, because the placebo effect is pretty powerful. But it doesn't work all the time- Re: Didn't pass the Lyme test... So,... krosser
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This is a reply to # 1,999,461Thanks, I appreciate your comment.
Can you suggest any DNA sets I should look at along with B.garinii, for instance? I'm currently thinking about other ticks related pathogens, like Bartonella, Babesia, Ehrlichia and Brucella...- Re: Didn't pass the Lyme test... So,... Tizona
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This is a reply to # 1,999,707yes, I would try all of the lyme co-infection frequencies that you have listed
Although honestly if you don't really react very strongly to the Lyme DNA frequency, it's possible lyme is not Your major problem- Re: Didn't pass the Lyme test... So,... krosser
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This is a reply to # 2,000,124Well, maybe not as severe as it can be... But wonder if they can be also hidden by other larger parasites.
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This is a reply to # 1,999,363Been running B.Garinii for a few days, not having hits anymore, guess it's a good thing.
Using mostly the 4th octaves now.
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1472622#i
With no carrier, just pulse and duty 50.
Also ran B.Afzelii again, no hits.
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