Oleander Soup = Unproven Chemotherapy Oleander Soup = Unproven Chemotherapy
Oleander Soup = Unproven Chemotherap... 
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In other words, chemotherapy is "selective" poison which is what oleander is, except that oleander isn't very selective.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/551804-oleander-honey-and-heart-attacks/
You continue to post about raw oleander and try to relate it to properly prepared oleander extract.
Actually properly prepared oleander extract does NOT attack healthy cells. There is no evidencer to be found of that anywhere. It also does not simply attack cancer cells, but also helps stimulate immune activity. The cardiac glycosides in oleander are non-polar compounds which are not water soluable. Thus an aqueous extraction such as happens in "Oleander Soup" as well as the patented medicine Anvirzel, only gets a tiny amount of the cardiac glycosides, kind of like the small amount of beef broth one might get from boiling beef bones. The amount of cardiac glycosides in an average dose of oleander is about 1/20th or less of the amount in a typical dose of digoxin.
Although the cardiac glycoside oleandrin has been identified by some, especially in mainstream medicine, as the primary active ingredient, others who have studied oleander point out that it contains a vast amount of compounds which are not cardiac glycosides and which are proven cancer fighters and immune stimulators. For example, beta sitosterol, quercitin and ursolic acid. These compounds in oleander work together synergistically which is true of many, many herbal items. That is how the natural body itself works. That is not how chemotherapy works.
I have researched and written extensively about oleander and can tell you that you truly know not what you post about when it comes to properly prepared oleander extract. But don't take my word for it - ask the head of oncology at the MD Anderson Cancer Clinic.
Since I have disagreed with you on some topics and disagreed with your mainstream slanted information you have resorted to attacking me personally and attacking me indirectly by falsely attacking medicinal oleander. It is not the first time and likely will not be the last time someone resorts to such tactics. But like in the past, such tactics will not work and in time the agenda of the attacker will become plain.
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"You continue to post about raw oleander and try to relate it to properly prepared oleander extract."
That has nothing to do with the reactions to oleander soup and teas - which has killed people. By your own admission, oleander has 500 chemicals in it. Cooking them does not change the fact that they are "chemicals" which through human ingestion is chemotherapy and there is no way in the world that you Tony can dismiss the fact that you are promoting chemotherapy - the treatment you supposedly despise.
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Hulda Clark's zapper is better documented than your soup.
http://www.cancer.org/Treatment/TreatmentsandSideEffects/ComplementaryandAlte...
The effectiveness of oleander has not been proven. In test tube studies, oleandrin, one of the substances found in oleander extracts, caused apoptosis (a specific type of cell death) of prostate cancer cells. In other test tube studies, Anvirzel appeared to slow the growth of human bladder cancer cells, but human studies are needed to determine whether it will work in people. Very early studies of carefully dosed Anvirzel in people with cancer have not yet shown that it helps. Side effects included nausea and vomiting, aches, and redness at the injection site, but the drug did not appear to affect the cancer in these patients. One very early study of 18 patients with advanced cancer was done primarily to determine the best dose of the drug. No measurable responses were noted in patients’ cancer during this small study. Although there are claims that Anvirzel improves quality of life, reduces pain, increases energy, and causes cancer regression and remission, available scientific evidence does not support these claims.
Another company had planned to offer an oleander extract that could be placed under the tongue, which they named Xenavex. Phase I and Phase II clinical trials on Xenavex were announced in 2005 on people with non–small-cell lung cancer. However, the clinical trials were not done, and the announcements were later removed from the federal clinical trials Web site. The company did not return calls or e-mails about the product.
Before any form of oleander can be recommended for human use, it must be thoroughly tested in people using the carefully controlled dosing and observation procedures used in clinical trials.
This substance may not have been thoroughly tested to find out how it interacts with medicines, foods, herbs, or supplements. Even though some reports of interactions and harmful effects may be published, full studies of interactions and effects are not often available. Because of these limitations, any information on ill effects and interactions below should be considered incomplete.
The oleander plant is poisonous, and many people have died of heart failure or respiratory paralysis after eating parts of the plant or drinking tea made from it. Some of the symptoms and signs of oleander toxicity are nausea, vomiting, colic, appetite loss, dizziness, drowsiness, high potassium levels, dilated pupils, bloody diarrhea, seizures, loss of consciousness, slow or irregular pulse, and heart block -- a blockage of the electrical impulses that stimulate the heart to contract. There have been reports of death occurring after oral and/or rectal administration of the extract from the plant. The FDA has received reports of at least 2 deaths linked to Anvirzel.
Skin irritation from contact with oleander has occurred and allergies are possible. One report observed that, when oleander was taken by a pregnant woman 12 hours before delivery, her baby was affected with seizures and a slowed heart rate. No other cause for the seizures and low heart rate was found. This herb should be avoided, especially by children and by women who are pregnant or breast-feeding. Relying on this type of treatment alone and avoiding or delaying conventional medical care for cancer may have serious health consequences.
