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Context: I'm a 33 year old male that has been suffering from some annoying, but not awful, symptoms for the last 9 months. I'm a Science type guy and not one for alternative therapies that don't have evidence, and I try to be an objective type of person. I eat relatively healthily, but not as healthily as I should. My story so far...
Just over a year ago I contracted both Step Throat and Mono for the first time in my life, one right after the other. I got some anti-biotics for the strep and it cleared it up as one would expect. A few months after I got another infection that felt like strep+flu, and after avoiding it for some time I ended up on broad-spectrum Antibiotics for a couple of weeks.
A month or so after I started to experience anal itching. It got pretty severe quickly, and I started getting a small amount of white discharge. I figured it had to be what we call Thrush back in England (Candida) so I got some cream for vaginal thrush and used that, along with improving my diet for a few weeks. It cleared up after a few days and I thought I'd beaten it.
Sometime after this, I don't remember when, I started developing a lot of intestinal gas. I would need to pass wind all the time, way more than ever before in my life. I could hear my intestines gurgling and bubbling. I initially thought it was something temporary, but weeks passed and it didn't stop. The severity would change from day-to-day, and eventually it seemed that it was related to eating carbs. I started on-and-off taking probiotics, but it didn't make a lot of difference. I hoped it would go away over time, it didn't.
During this time I got a STI/HIV test that was all clear. Phew!
A couple of months ago something new happened that was scary. My gums started to sting a LOT. In a couple of days my gums were really sore and receding badly, and were white where the flesh meets the tooth. This panicked me, and the pain was really intense, I could barely eat anything. I did some research and became convinced that this was a fungal infection. I bought some mouth wash that was antibacterial and anti-fungal, and also drank a lot of probiotic yogurt. Within a few days it cleared up and hasn't returned.
Throughout all this my gas continued. Some mornings I was passing wind like 30 times. At this point I stepped up my online research, and my suspicion that this must all be part of a candida infection seemed almost certain.
After looking around I decided to order some Fluconazole. 10x50mg via a dodgy Russian source. :/ I took those about a month ago, 2 per day. It didn't really seem to do much though sadly. So I continued to do some research and found a thread on this site about Lufenuron and Miconazole. So I did as much research as I could and decided to try it.
I ordered:
2 x 9gm Packs of Lufenuron.
3 x Tubes of Daktarin (Miconazole)
Also buying lots of Kefir and probiotics of various types.
I started the regime a few days ago as follows:
Sat: 3g Lufenuron. 2 x Spoons of Daktarin. About 400ml of Kefir.
Sun: 3g Lufenuron. 2 x Spoons of Daktarin. About 400ml of Kefir.
Mon: 3g Lufenuron. 2 x Spoons of Daktarin. About 400ml of Kefir.
Tue (yesterday): 2 x Spoons of Daktarin. About 400ml of Kefir.
I'll be continuing taking the Daktarin and Kefir regimin for the next few weeks. And the second 9gm course of Lufenuron in two weeks from now.
So far it seems to be doing something and I think I'm experiencing 'die-off'. Monday evening I started getting a mild headache and my glands on my neck felt inflamed and tender. Yesterday I woke up with the same headache, and during the day my stomach started to ache. By the evening my body started to feel tender and sensitive. At night my stomach really ached and felt distended. This morning I woke up with the stomach feeling not so bad, but my muscles aching and my mild headache still there. I've also had a lot of mucus in my sinuses the last day or two. I seem to have a bit less gas, but I'm also trying to eat less carbs which may be why.
I'm going to keep this thread updated with my progress over the next couple of weeks. At this point it's too early to say whether this truly is die-off, whether the treatment is working, and therefore whether I even have a Candida overgrowth. However, this has been so troubling to me that I wanted to share my experience in case it helps anyone else out there.
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Lufenuron can cause die-off syptoms(if candida overgrowth is present) and mucus production...That was my experience. Keep us posted.. I hope it helps. Hopefully you can get to the point where you can load up on probiotics after the anti-fungal treatment.
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This is a reply to # 1,944,985How are you doing now James? Did Lufenuron help you kick it or are you still battling?- Re: Possible Candida Infection - My ... mygutleaks
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This is a reply to # 1,944,986I would recommend not eating very many carbs at all for a month or two. From my research on Sarah Vaughter's site, Owndoc, the Candida will eventually adapt to the Lufenuron. So this may be your one chance to get it right with that medication. If this comes back again, you'll have to battle it without Lufenuron (I'm assuming) since the Candida will have adapted. I could be wrong. As far as killing off candida, i would say that's exactly what you're doing. When I do it, I get very sinusey, almost like I have a sinus infection. I killed off a bunch of it with kefir on a few occassions, and it took many days for the mucus production to stop. I used to get sinus infections often, so i know the feeling. you might want to try some nasal decongestant like Afrin. that will open your airway up so it can't collect bacteria as easily. also, make certain you are detoxing via sweating. if you don't have time for that, or in addition to, you can take molybdenum to help remove the toxins the candida are giving off. you don't want your liver and kidneys getting overburdened, or your body will dump the excess toxins in other areas. I've learned this from my own experiences and I'm about your age. check out the message board at http://www.thecandidadiet.com
for correct dosing of molybdenum. there is a guy there, his name is Able900, and he can tell you exactly how much to take, i think he recommends up to 750mg a day, spaced out. hopefully you don't have too much candida in you and this will all be over soon. please keep us in the loop, not many of us have taken Lufenuron, but I've seen mostly good reviews. a few said it didn't work for them. best of luck!
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This is a reply to # 1,945,049Thanks for the advice and support. I'm actually ok with the die-off symptoms, in fact I'm happy about them as it suggests it may be working. I'm trying to stay off the carbs as much as possible, but I'm almost certainly going to have a drink this evening :O it's a friend's birthday. I'm gonna try and keep off them as much as possible otherwise though.
My understanding of Lufenuron is that it inhibits Chitin production, meaning that even if the Candida mutates it no longer has Chitin in it's cell wall. It should then be much easier to kill either with standard anti-fungals or the body's own immune system. I'm hopeful that even if this regime doesn't totally end the overgrowth, it will be much easier to keep it under control with probiotics and a reasonable diet. Fingers crossed!Advertisement
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Lufenuron made me feel like a new person for about 10 days and then I started to get bad die-off syptoms for about 3 weeks after that. I heard the lufenuron can stay in your intestines for 2-4 weeks. The die-off was too much for me to work and take care of 2 kids at the same time so I only did one treatment out of Sarah Vaughter's three pack. I really need about 2-3 months off work to hammer this crap. So I'm pretty limited right now on gaining the upper hand, but I can only battle this crap for so long and might have to take some serious time off work to gain some good ground. The problem is you get the battle from trying to reduce the candida in numbers and then trying to restablish the gut ecosystem and then trying to detox your body from chemicals/toxins/metals. It can be a hard battle especially when one has to work and take care of 2 ankle biters(toddlers).
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This is a reply to # 1,945,094hi James, interesting. any idea why the die-off took 10 days to kick-in? What else were you taking for your treatment? What was your diet like? Were you still able to go to work those 3 weeks? Thank you!- Re: Possible Candida Infection - My ... jameskep37
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The 1st phase of the Lufenuron treatment is the 5 day loading phase. The Lufenuron takes a little while to settle in the GI tract. Once it settles in is when the die-off can start. Sarah Vaughter's website goes into more detail. I was taking nothing else at the time so I could pinpoint the effects of lufenuron by itself. Diet was some nut butters/meat, fish, very little carbs. Some of the bad symptoms/inflammation I could contribute to too much fatty meat. I worked but was miserable.
Lufenuron really helped out a past member on the forum(Tony Orlando).He went through some bad die-off as well, but fortunately was not working at the time. He has some good posts. Lufenuron might not do much for people that have mild "yeast" overgrowth.Lufenuron is more designed to work on chitin, which is higher in fungal candida.
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This is a reply to # 1,945,282James, did you take molybdenum while you were killing it? apparently that helps a lot with the herxing.- Re: Possible Candida Infection - My ... jameskep37
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This is a reply to # 1,945,461Molybdenum didnt help much.Vitamin C flushes/betonite clay helps with die-off but I dont like to get in a habit of doing those.
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Do you have parasites? The full moon is on Monday and if two days before, during and two days after the full moon you feel worse chances are you have a parasitic infection.
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This is a reply to # 1,945,822Interesting product. A reduced form of ALA with some probiotics. A bit on the pricey side $130 for 8oz. How has the product helped ?
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This is a reply to # 1,945,852I'm still alive! My 'die-off' symptoms (if that's what they are) have mostly subsided. I've continued to have a mild headache and muscle aches, but they are not as noticeable as a couple of days ago by any means. Yesterday night and today I've had a return of some level of gas though, as I did drink alcohol and ate a significant amount of carbs. I also didn't take as much of the Daktarin (Miconazole) yesterday as I should have. I'm back on track today so far. This weekend it'll have been 1 week since I started, so I'll update again tomorrow or Sunday.
I do have a single tablet of Fluconazole (generic Diflucan) designed for treating vaginal thrush in one hit, and currently I'm thinking of taking that at the end of the two week Lufenuron cycle, before starting the second cycle.
After the second cycle and the 2-day Fluconazole treatment is done, I have a bottle of 30 Ketoconazole (generic Nizoral) tablets in the cupboard also which I may take.
All the time I'm doing five-lac, kefir, and 'trying' to eat less carbs.- Re: hay Sodapop jameskep37
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Not a fan of five-lac. Overpriced for what your getting and contains B-Subtilis which can effect good+bad bacteria. Dr. Jeff advices to stay from products that have B-subtilis. Good luck with the Lufenuron.
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This is a reply to # 1,946,026Honestly I wouldn't have bough fivelac today after doing more research. It is overpriced and therefore a scam.
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This is a reply to # 1,945,282Anyone out there experiencing lufenuron die off - I'm having severe die off????
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This is a reply to # 1,945,094hello there how are you doing with your lufenuron.
i have just ordered it and am looking forward to using it ..
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