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Ok, some of you already know me. I'm now on 50 mg iodine taken as lugols solution and I take selenium 400 mcg, magnesiummalate 1000 mg, 3 gr vitamin c und sea salt 3 times a day.
When I'm drinking plenty of water my urine becomes colourless but as soon as I disolve a tablespoon of seasalt the next urine is green/brown and very cloudy and stinky. I guess this is the bromide coming out ?
I've dealt so far with some very moody and depressed days, acne flare up on the whole body, rashes on the forehead, sometimes extreme irritability and anxiety.
I'm still a bit frightening about iodine. I'm from germany and here is another dimension of iodophobia going on. I learned from childhood on that iodine is a poisen and should be avoided like hell. Can you encourage me that I really need the iodine to get rid of the bromide from 10 years usage of atrovant ?
The detox is heavy and when depression sets in doubts arises, too. I need someone who can encourage me und tell me that this is the right way, you know ?
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- Re: 4 weeks on 50 mg/d Ginagirl
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This is a reply to # 1,926,766You have a nice detox; mine was hell too. :)
"When I'm drinking plenty of water my urine becomes colourless but as soon as I disolve a tablespoon of Seasalt the next urine is green/brown and very cloudy and stinky. I guess this is the bromide coming out ?"
-yes, Atrovent is bromide based; the salt / chloride brings out the bromide.
Heavy thoughts and Depression may also be a result of your bromide;
"dark thoughts (e.g., there is no reason to live)
Depression (e.g., there is no reason to get out of bed)
anxiety
emotionality"
http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/bromidedetoxsymptomsandstrategies.html
I would actually up the Iodine to 100 mg and increase the salt.
Add some zinc and boron to your supplements, you will do fine; but it will take some time to detox ten years of bromide.
Why continue iodine; well, Germany is within the low Iodine belt in Europe. Have a look around you; are people healthy and happy or not?
This was a major motivation in my case; as my family and friends came down with one disease after the other; like cancers, Parkinson, MS, Lupus, Asthma,hypo thyroid, allergies etc etc.
"Germany spends the equivalent of one billion dollars annually in both healthcare expenditures and lost work time as a result of Iodine deficiency and resultant ..."
"Although the primary recognized manifestation
of iodine deficiency is endemic goiter, it is only the
most visible and well-documented sign of a deficiency.
There are several manifestations of iodine deficiency
now termed iodine deficiency disorders. The majority
of these manifest in infants and children as a result
of maternal iodine deficiency.3 Hearing loss, learning
deficits, brain damage, and myelination disorders can
occur due to fetal or perinatal hypothyroidism. Infant
mortality rates have decreased 65 percent in communities
where iodine deficiencies have been eliminated.4
Maternal iodine deficiency manifests as low thyroxine,
elevated
thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH), and
subclinical thyroid enlargement (subclinical goiter). As
pregnancy and lactation increase iodine loss, the risk for
goiter continues, and even after lactation ceases it may
manifest as multinodular goiter and hyperthyroidism.
Iodine deficiency in women can lead to overt hypothyroidism
and consequent anovulation, infertility, gestational
hypertension, spontaneous first-trimester abortion,
and stillbirth.4
Iodine deficiency is also associated with increased
risk for thyroid carcinoma in animal models and
humans."
http://www.thorne.com/altmedrev/.fulltext/13/2/116.pdf
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- salt question.... cougar
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This is a reply to # 1,926,777you suggest upping their salt from 1 TBSP to what level?
Gosh am I too afraid of salt.....?
I personally do 1/4tsp salt and 1/4 tsp KCl twice a day
sometimes thrice
I hadn't thought to do more than that....hmmmmmmmmm
I liberally salt my food too
- Re: salt question.... Ginagirl
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This is a reply to # 1,926,826Oops I read tea spoon, not table spoon.
I was thinking bromide detox = need more salt.
The amount will always need to be taken in a ratio to water. I cant give exact measures, but I wouldnt worry much about it; the only thing that happens if you take to much salt is that you get thirsty. The body is a wise creature if one listen to it.
When I did the Water Cure I took 1 1/2 tea spoon of real salt daily with my 2-3 liters of water.
Now I do approx a level teaspoon daily.
- Re: salt question.... Ginagirl
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- Re: 4 weeks on 50 mg/d Frederic2k
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This is a reply to # 1,926,777"I would actually up the Iodine to 100 mg and increase the salt.
Add some zinc and boron to your supplements, you will do fine; but it will take some time to detox ten years of bromide."I already take zinc but no boron. Here in germany the private person isn't allowed to buy boron or borax :( . Hopefully I get all the bromide out of the body and I can get the real benefits of iodine supplementation like in the beginning.
"Why continue iodine; well, Germany is within the low iodine belt in Europe. Have a look around you; are people healthy and happy or not? This was a major motivation in my case; as my family and friends came down with one disease after the other; like cancers, Parkinson, MS, Lupus, Asthma,hypo thyroid, allergies etc etc."
Yes I can relate to this. I don't know anybody around me who is healthy. Everybody has some diseases and most often these people die by the age of 50-60.
Thank you for your encouragement. I needed this to see the light at the end of the tunnel.
- Re: 4 weeks on 50 mg/d Ginagirl
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This is a reply to # 1,927,357" Here in germany the private person isn't allowed to buy boron or borax "
- really? I thought one could purchase borax within the EU countries. There are netshops in UK selling borax, like healthleads.uk I am sure they ship to Germany, as I just ordered from them, sent to Sweeden as the customs in my country are very tricky.- Re: 4 weeks on 50 mg/d Frederic2k
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Ummm thank you for the link !!!
Hopefully they will ship to germany. I will try it. :) :)
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- Re: 4 weeks on 50 mg/d cougar
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Sounds like you are doing great!!!
Admittedly it is a sucky great. And when you are all alone doing this kind of thing it can be hard not to wonder if you are creating a sucky Bad experience for yourself!
And I totally get your concerns...it took me a long time to get started, and then I bailed about 2-3months in because I was so cold and felt like I was going to get sick...so i stopped and got into something else for 15 months or so because I was struggling getting good info to support myself....I think I didn't ask enough questions here and I went away. And then came back to I and here and dug in and it makes sense so I won't stop now.
GG's post was great and she covered most of the bases, but I know how important it can be to hear from more real people that you are definitely not poisoning yourself!!!!!
I have been on I for 2 years. 100-200+mg/day. I am a difficult case or so it seems so I am not out of the woods yet, but I have been sick for years. I got off of hydrocortisone 1 year ago, so healing does happen!
My detox sucked the first several months or so. I often tell the story of one morning when i had pretty severe anxiety after taking my Iodine and I couldn't think straight and do anything useful and then I took my salt water and within an hour I felt a wave go through me and whoosh, the anxiety was gone.....for that day anyway!!!
How much salt/day do you do? 1 tspx3?
if you get edema or cramping from the salt you will need to add potassium chloride to the Sea Salt
you could possibly try upping your vitamin C
and you might try some herbal cleanses for: liver, kidneys, colon, parasites......just to make sure detox is working well.
I often need to do coffee enemas/colonics to help things move out.
Upping your dosage is a great suggestion. Sometimes detox is easier with more. And sometimes people find taking their Iodine two or three times/day helps too.
when I have my doubts I rewatch the Brownstein and Flechas videos ....those always lift up my spirits and remind we why I doing this crazy Iodine thing!
I will post my list of links in a new thread.
keep asking questions and checking in and sharing and asking for support. That is what we are here for.
I would suggest you consider giving yourself a memorable screen name, I know at least for myself I can track people better than a number that way.
Wo wohnen sie? Ich habe familie in Schriesheim, in der nahe Heidelberg, und auch in Karlsruhe.
- Re: 4 weeks on 50 mg/d Frederic2k
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This is a reply to # 1,926,841
this is #102875
"Sounds like you are doing great!!!
Admittedly it is a sucky great. And when you are all alone doing this kind of thing it can be hard not to wonder if you are creating a sucky Bad experience for yourself!"Do you think that when the detox is over I can get the real benefits of taking iodine ? My only hope in this really dark times is that I felt so good like when I first took iodine. I never felt so good in my life.
"And I totally get your concerns...it took me a long time to get started, and then I bailed about 2-3months in because I was so cold and felt like I was going to get sick...so i stopped and got into something else for 15 months or so because I was struggling getting good info to support myself....I think I didn't ask enough questions here and I went away. And then came back to I and here and dug in and it makes sense so I won't stop now."
I can relate to this. I took iodine 3 months before and I stopped it completly because I felt so extreme bad. I wasn't even able to go to work or tolerate other people. Then I moved on to Cutler protocoll and did 50 rounds of it. It helped me much but I was sure that the detox wasn't over as I'm heavily poisoned by Bromide and for this there is only Iodine to take.
Sometimes the detox is so heavy that I fall into a very dark place, without any hope to move on. I never expected bromide to be such a heavy poison. Now I know for sure that bromide is my problem. How could I ever get healthy with so much bromide in my body ?
"I have been on I for 2 years. 100-200+mg/day. I am a difficult case or so it seems so I am not out of the woods yet, but I have been sick for years. I got off of hydrocortisone 1 year ago, so healing does happen!"
I know from an older post of you, that bromide is also your problem. Do you know the source of the bromide in your body ?
"you could possibly try upping your vitamin C
and you might try some herbal cleanses for: liver, kidneys, colon, parasites......just to make sure detox is working well.
I often need to do coffee enemas/colonics to help things move out.
Upping your dosage is a great suggestion. Sometimes detox is easier with more. And sometimes people find taking their iodine two or three times/day helps too.
when I have my doubts I rewatch the Brownstein and Flechas videos ....those always lift up my spirits and remind we why I doing this crazy iodine thing!"Ok thank you for your suggestions. I already upped my c and magnesium and now I take milk thistle and plan to do enemas. Again thank you for all your effort. It is nice to have here some people who know of what I'm going through.
"keep asking questions and checking in and sharing and asking for support. That is what we are here for."
Again thank you.
"Wo wohnen sie? Ich habe familie in Schriesheim, in der nahe Heidelberg, und auch in Karlsruhe."
Ich komme aus Niedersachen, ich wohne direkt an der holländischen Grenze. Um nach Karlsruhe zu kommen muss ich schon 5 Stunden mit dem Auto fahren. Es ist also schon ein bisschen entfernt von mir ;-).
Grüßen Sie Ihre Verwandten in Deutschland.Auf Wiedersehen :-)
- Re: 4 weeks on 50 mg/d cougar
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This is a reply to # 1,927,358I made a long weekend trip with my cousin to Spiekeroog island in 1987.....somewhat close by.....
I too am holding out for feeling really good. I had 2 weeks of feeling well before the yuck hit.
There are the other folks here who have made huge improvements in their health. so, we have that to stand on too!
glad to hear you have done cutler protocol. You may have to do more. I think for some of us, both are critical.
I don't know my source of bromide
but in my case it could be that my detox channels are so screwed up from heavy metals......
You might also try some deep dark laughter therapy. Like the mad evil scientist laugh. Liver holds anger. That kind of laughter releases anger. You need to play with it enough so that it is authentic and contagious and you lose control somewhat. It can be forced and weird at first but the joy comes once you clear some of the anger.
"i feel like crap!....hee hee"
"i feel so lousy I should just crawl up into a ball and die....ho ho"
"I want to kill someone...ha ha"
you have to say the first part like you really mean it and feel it and then add on a hee hee or ha ha or ho ho in a goofy voice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5MP4etBb5Y
a small clip of the master, Annette Goodheart
- Re: 4 weeks on 50 mg/d cougar
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- Re: 4 weeks on 50 mg/d Frederic2k
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- Re: 4 weeks on 50 mg/d cougar
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This is a reply to # 1,926,766I just read your post once more and you mention irritability. This makes me think liver, so I would definitely do anything you can for liver....milk thistle, lemon juice in water, Liver Cleanses and possibly flushes
I would also think that you having brown urine is a really good sign that your body is able to dump the bromide really quickly.
You are going to feel so good on the other side of this!!!!- Re: coffee enemas for liver issues..... wombat
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- Re: coffee enemas for liver issues..... wombat
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- Re: 4 weeks on 50 mg/d just thinking
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This is a reply to # 1,926,766
To get the benefit of the elemental iodine in Lugol's, you need to take the iodine separate from the vit C. You can see what happens to Lugol's if you put some Lugol's in water, check out the color, then add vit C crystals (open a capsule if that's what you have). The tawny color should become clear. You now have all iodide, not the iodine/iodide combo.
The reason I'm saying this is because in the beginning depression was a giant pit for me. I was detoxing psych meds. For me the iodine part of Lugol's made the depression worse, whereas the iodide part made the depression better. I got all iodide by using SSKI (saturated solution of potassium iodide). You could get iodide by combining Lugol's and vit C. Possibly if you do this sometimes to get a break from the iodine part of Lugol's, yet still keep taking Lugol's, you will get some relief from the depression.
Or not. Everybody's different. Just an idea that worked for me :)
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