ive been trying hopelessly at this all day - i cant connect the synergy WPS 100 oxygen 'inlet' to the outlet on my 40 cubic foot (tiny) oxygen tank. it seems to be a 5/8 inch outlet on the oxygen tank, but the 5/8 inch is just a hair too small to fit over it (does this mean it's a 3/4 inch outlet or what? sigh.)
even if it did fit over it though I was using like 5 fittings to accomplish the task of getting it down to around 1/4 hose barb outlet, and that is with no regulator. I have no clue if the machine will break without a flow regulator or not, or what the flow regulator is for if the ozone generator has a ug/ml knob. any help appreciated im lost here
You definitely need a pressure regulator if using an oxygen tank with an ozone unit both to prevent breaking the machine and for your safety. The regulator is to break down the extremely high pressure the oxygen is under in the tank, which is usually around 2300-3000PSI.
What I recommend id looking for a stepped hose barb. These hose barbs are cone shaped and so have increased diameters as they go back towards the tank allowing them to connect to different sized hoses. I don't know if welding supply places carry these, but they are commonly used on hospital oxygen tanks so a medical supply company would likely carry them.
I discovered I have a CGA 540 outlet style on my oxygen tank.
I bought this as it was the best price I could find, takes a long time to ship according to their estimate though (I bought the 0-4 lpm version)
http://www.cramerdeckermedical.com/product.php?product_id=583
I noticed it jumps from 0, 1/32, 1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, 1, 1 1/2, 2, 3, or 4 LPM
how can I get 1/10 lpm then? do I use 1/8 lpm and somehow 'air out' 1/40 lpm of oxygen before it reaches the ozone generator? how to do this?
I discovered I have a CGA 540 outlet style on my oxygen tank. I bought this as it was the best price I could find, takes a long time to ship according to their estimate though (I bought the 0-4 lpm version) http://www.cramerdeckermedical.com/product.php?product_id=583 I noticed it jumps from 0, 1/32, 1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, 1, 1 1/2, 2, 3, or 4 LPM how can I get 1/10 lpm then? do I use 1/8 lpm and somehow 'air out' 1/40 lpm of oxygen before it reaches the ozone generator? how to do this? I would just stick to the 1/8 lpm. It is still low enough for safety and will not significantly alter the ozone concentration.
sigh, this is so frustrating..
i got the regulator only to find out when i turn the oxygen knob (with the regulator on and set to 1/8, or without the regulator attached), no oxygen comes out, nothing happens at all. I can only turn it maybe half a full spin before it stops, and my hardest effort pivots the whole tank even while i brace it between my knees without opening any more - im scared to do it again because it shouldn't take that much effort, should it?
An 1/8th of a liter per minute is very tiny and difficult to feel. Try putting the output hose in a glass of water to see if any oxygen bubbles out.
its heavy as hell so either they sold me a defective unit or an empty one that's just heavy as hell. or I don't know what I'm doing. maybe I have to turn the knob behind the outlet for oxygen that has 4 holes on it like a 4 way intersection. no idea.
The tank itself will also have an on-off valve. The pressure in these tanks can be up to around 3,000psi, so the regulator's job is to break that pressure down to a tiny fraction of the tank pressure. Therefore, once the regulator is attached properly you turn on the main valve from the tank. When you do this the pressure gauge on the regulator will register the pressure of the tank. This is a good way to tell if it is on. Then turn the regulator valve on. When you are done using it is always a good idea to turn the tank valve off and open the regulator temporarily to release the pressure built up in the regulator. Then turn the regulator back off.
Had to return 2 o2 cylinders, on my third one now, because the first two were too tight and wouldn't open, even the AirGas people couldn't open it, wtf to that..
Tried out the ozone machine on red Gatorade, it made it a misty white color after 1-2 min on 1 lpm (anything below 1/2 lpm didnt seem to make any bubbles or change color at all, wtf to that as well, I thought the ozone concentration would be higher, doesn't seem like it made any.
A lower flow rate will increase ozone concentration. If it is not bubbling though then there is nothing coming out of the tube.
Then I tried it on tap water, made tap water taste great and sweet, but had to turn the machine off because my whole (tiny) apartment smelled like sweet air and my lungs felt weird, and I started coughing up mucus which I haven't done since last week because I was sick..
It takes quite a bit of ozone to cause coughing, but it is usually a dry, spasmatic cough. Try using a deeper container and really fine diffusers such as the white plastic diffusers for aquariums. Also keep the diffuser at the bottom of the container. All these will help increase the reaction of ozone with the water so less escapes in to the air. Also ozonate for 10-15 minutes.
The ozone machine and glass I was doing this in was on the floor, to keep it from my lungs, plus the stone diffuser was submerged in a tiny glass of water, I really didn't think so much ozone could escape from there.. maybe it's coming directly from leaks in the generator?
Not likely. Most likely the ozone is bubbling out faster than it can react. Again a deeper glass and a finer diffuser can help some.
Any way, my apartment air is very very pure due to 2 industrial hepa/uv air purifiers (not the gimmick ones), so I think whatever ozone leaked out was shot up high by the air purifier vacuum thingy, couldnt find much to react with in my air and thus irritated my lungs, but just a theory. (this all total was about 7 minutes of the machine on).
UV sterilizers also generate ozone.
its just too bad i cant open the windows because it's snowing outside
EDIT:
tried it on green grapes, it didnt seem to make much difference at all, i couldnt tell difference from taste, the texture was slimier but could still see white pesticide film on the grapes, and there was no layer on the surface of the water in the glass the bubbled ozone/grapes were in (i did this for 15 minutes).
A white film is not indicative of pesticides. Organically grown grapes can also develop a powdery covering over the fruit.
To ozonate fruits and vegetables though rinse them first so they are moist. Oxidizers require moisture. Then place them in a bag and blow the ozone in the bag for 15-20 minutes. Afterward make sure to let the surface of the fruits and vegetable air dry to reduce the regrowth of any microbes.
I'm pretty sure it's because the air stone bubbles are not contacting the grapes at all, just rising to the top missing the grapes next to it. Does it matter if the bubbles touch the fruit, or will the saturated ozone water disinfect them without the bubbles touching? Btw I was using icy water.
The ozone will still work even if the bubbles are not contacting them. But the bagging method I mentioned above is much more efficient.
May I ask:
1. what does the output 50ug/ml, for example, consist of?
If using pure oxygen as the starting gas the mix would be primarily oxygen with a small amount of ozone.
50ug of ozone for each ml of total output (ozone and oxygen)?
Yes.
2. Why when the oxygen input increases, the amount of the ozone output decreases? For example:
1 LPM yields 9.3 ug/ml, but 1/2 LPM yields 20.5ug/ml.
This is because the faster the oxygen flows past the electrodes there is less time for the oxygen to react with the corona. With less oxygen being converted in to ozone the unreacted oxygen dilutes the ozone concentration.