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Hello, :)
I want to warn the persons who are fascinated about zappers but don't know what they can or can't do.
I have tried most zappers on the market and there is a lot of hype and no so much effectiveness.
Zappers can indeed help to kill some kind of worms in some parts of the body. And against small organisms like bacterias they are probably effective.
But zappers can't kill all kind of worms in all parts of the body, and they can be dangerous in some cases.
There are parts of the body where the current can't go, because of its constitution or because of an obstruction or because it is hollow.
If you are infected with a kind of worm who can move in others parts of the body, be very cautious with the use of a zapper.
When you use a zapper and the current does not kill the worm but only disturb it, then the worm will move to another part of the body where there is no current or less current.
By using the electrodes on the hands and the feet only, the head area (the brain, the scalp, the sinuses, the ears, the eyes, and some lymph nodes) is a perfect hiding places for them.
The only way i have found to kill the worms in the head area (and in all parts of the body) is the use of herbs in large amounts, not zappers. Zappers are efficient to kill warts and to entertain the worms, (and maybe to kill some lazy worms who have the bad luck to be in the path of the current) but that's all.
Trust me, it is not easy to fall asleep when you feel worms moving in your brain and sinuses and biting your head.
Fortunately some herbs are effective even in these areas. That's what has been used during thousand of years, and that's what i recommend until some genius really create an efficient zapper. For now don't waste your time and money with this. You can buy hue amount of fresh herbs or dried herbs for the price of most zappers.
If one zapper seller has something to say about this, i am listening...
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This is a reply to # 1,893,491>- By using the electrodes on the hands and the feet only, the head area (the brain, the scalp, the sinuses, the ears, the eyes, and some lymph nodes) is a perfect hiding places for them.
Agreed, the absolute best method is using a 4 point contact system with 3 points positive and only one negative contact. Doing it this way would, at least theoretically, cause an migration to be toward the hand with the negative contact. On the next cycle, switching the electrodes from one hand to the other would get any organisms that accumulated near the area where the previous negative electrode was concentrated. Also, switching hands can confuse their migration efforts. This method should also help keep parasites from traveling to the head area as it is more positive than the hand with the negative electrode.
I have known of a few users with Toxoplasma ( which concentrates in the brain ) to report success with this method, giving an indication that the brain can be reached without applying energy directly to the head.
Again, the important thing about using footpads and paddles together is that 3 points must be positive rather than having 2 negatives which some sellers provide due to not understanding the dynamics of zapping.
Another aspect that is important is getting the exact right frequencies applied which is one reason that many zappers are not as effective. They are too general purpose and not specific enough. This is where multimode, multifrequency zappers may be better, but not perfect as of yet. Expect to see some new improved zappers in the near future.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,893,494The limit of the zapper in its current state is that it relies on electricity and so conductiveness of the material.
The best illustration of how the current travels in the body is to look at a lightning photo : many small paths and one big path.
Even if you put electrodes on the head, you won't be able to use enough intensity without risking to damage the brain, the nervous system, the eyes, the ears.
With any combinations, the head area remains a place where parasites can hide because you won't be able to use enough intensity without possible side effects. (i have had my sight becomes white with the eyes wide open when putting an electrode on the skin of the forehead.)
Maybe an electromagnetic device is the solution for this limit, but this will require a lot of power !
Keep researching parazapper, i am for this tech even if it is not ready yet.- Re: The limit of the zapper in its c... parazapper
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This is a reply to # 1,893,509>- The best illustration of how the current travels in the body is to look at a lightning photo : many small paths and one big path.
I do not find this to be true and there is a good reason. A lightening bolt is instantaneous as the electricity involved dissipates in fractions of microseconds or even much quickly, although the image appears to last longer than that. The electrical signals produced by the zapper at audio frequency lasts much longer, on the order or milliseconds or longer which allows the potential to equalize over a large area. I have monitored the signal at points all across the body and the signal does not follow narrow tracks as suggested by the lightning theory presented.
In regards to the head area, By measuring at numerous points across the head, it can be seen that the amplitude of the signal will run between 45 percent and 55 percent of the amplitude found at the point of contact of the positive electrode when the two electrodes are held in the hands.
>- i have had my sight becomes white with the eyes wide open when putting an electrode on the skin of the forehead
This is not a good thing in my opinion. While I advise against such, I have used the electrodes on my forehead and in the temple area to zap skin cancer. The brightening that I found was only with my eyes closed. Even that is not good over a period of time.
I do not know if it will ever be safe to apply zapping directly to the brain so anyone should use caution when this is an area of concern.
As a note, Dr. Robert O. Becker discussed the use of small electrical voltages to induce a state of anesthesia which means that applying a voltage from the frontal area to the posterior base of the skull could theoretically cause passing out or even coma. On the other hand, applying the correct voltage in such a manner might be able to reverse a coma.
In regards to where the signal from a zapper might reach, I have zapped abscessed teeth and zapped my sinuses with no problems. If the signal from the zapper can reach the root of a tooth, inside of a cavity in the jaw bone, and if the signal can reach into the sinus area inside of the skull, then it should be able to reach most anywhere.
There are many other potential aspects to consider and there is yet a lot of studying to be done.
I think that it is more important to keeping the head area slightly positive to discourage the migration of parasites to that area and encouraging them away to a remote extremity such as a hand or foot.
Perhaps the solution might be placing a 5th electrode on the area of the jaw might prevent migration to the head area.
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This is a reply to # 1,893,628Para,
Can you describe, zapping your tooth and/or sinuses? Did you use a tooth zappicator?
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This is a reply to # 1,893,678I totally agree with David!
The four point system doesn't work because the frequency from the positive connection is evenly distributed between the foot plates and the hand held copper, which makes the them weak. Think about that.
I would rather have one strong frequency in my hand than taking that same frequency and sharing it between 3 points.
Even if this wasn't so David is still right they can and do hide in other parts of the body.
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This is a reply to # 1,893,701>- the frequency from the positive connection is evenly distributed between the foot plates and the hand held copper, which makes the them weak
What zapper have you tried this with? Almost everyone who uses the ParaZapper CCa, CC1, or UZI models reports a stronger signal with the 4 point contact system. Actually, a significantly stronger signal exists when the right zapper and connections are used.
>- Think about that
I have spent a large part of the last 8 years studying that and the survey responses from over 100 users say that you are not correct.
Let me give an example:
Of the users who did not use paddles and footpads when zapping for bladder infections, only 50 percent showed better than 50 percent improvement. Whereas, of those who used both paddles and footpads, 100 percent reported better than 50 percent improvement. Significant difference.
Those with IBS/olitis showed better results when using paddles and augmentation pads.
I have tried over 20 different zappers and a number of different electrodes combinations over almost the past 12 years. I do not know of anyone who has spent as much time and effort studing this as I have. I do not claim to know everything and probably never will but I do know that if someone tells me that they are getting a weaker signal when using augmentation pads with paddles, I am certain that they need to check things out because either their zapper is too weak for some reason or there is some other interference.
>- Even if this wasn't so David is still right they can and do hide in other parts of the body.
Not saying that this is not possible because I know that it can happen, but I will say that using the right technique and setup makes a big difference. I know this because it does not always happen.
I love analogies and parabolas: A man bought a new Rambler and after pushing to its limit, returned to say that cars could not go over 100 miles per hour, the man who owned an Opal agreed with him and further stated that cars could not climb steep hills. The man who only drove an Edsel claimed that cars could not get more than 8 or 9 miles to a gallon of gasoline.
:^) My old Saturn has gotten 47 mpg and I am not going to say how fast it can go. :^)
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This is a reply to # 1,893,678I do not use a zappicator because I have not found one that works yet. Made a couple of them on my own that did not work either. The principle is flawed in my opinion. A pulser should work far better.
I always hold the negative / ground electrode ( green wire ) in one of my hands, away from and not touching any other part of my body. I then take the positive electrode ( red wire ) and place it near the gum line of the affected jaw ( upper jaw below the cheek bone for the sinus area ) and zap, swapping the paddles between hands on alternate cycles, always avoiding touching anywhere but the hands with the green paddle.
I have had amazing results most of the time but at least once needed the assistance of Antibiotics . Even then the zapper made things clear up much faster.
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This is a reply to # 1,893,819if you take the Pos [red wire] and place it near, in your case, the upper gum line, how will it stay put if you are using paddles in both hands sitting or standing upright, what do you secure the gum line electrode with, which tape is best to use to keep electrodes securely attached?
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This is a reply to # 1,893,628[quote]
The electrical signals produced by the zapper at audio frequency lasts much longer, on the order or milliseconds or longer which allows the potential to equalize over a large area.
I have monitored the signal at points all across the body and the signal does not follow narrow tracks as suggested by the lightning theory presented.
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I guess you have measured the intensity at points on the skin of the body which is made from different materials than those of the interior of the body.
Maybe the use of a specific frequency can help the electrons to travel more but they will choose to travel through the materials with less resistance.
For example, if you put one wet electrode on the forehead, and one wet electrode on the back of the head at the top, you will not "see white".
But if you move the second electrode so that the eyes nerves are between the path of the current, this time you will "see white".
This shows that the current does not reach all parts of the body, there are many small paths and only one big path with a higher intensity.
But as you explained, you may feel the current in your teeth, especially if you have metals fillings, because the mouth has all the attributes for a good conductivity.
Anyway, some materials have a higher conductivity than others. That's a fact.
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In regards to where the signal from a zapper might reach, I have zapped abscessed teeth and zapped my sinuses with no problems. If the signal from the zapper can reach the root of a tooth, inside of a cavity in the jaw bone, and if the signal can reach into the sinus area inside of the skull, then it should be able to reach most anywhere.
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No i don't agree and my demonstration above proves the contrary.
You have had good results, and i have had good results also to kill a bacterial infection in the tooth with a zapper.
But, the interior of the mouth is really wet, there is a good circulation of blood in this area, and this area is massaged regularly each time we eat, which decreases the obstructions. This is not the case of many parts of the body which can be hollow or obstructed or with poor circulation or made with materials with lower conductivity.
For example, after the several tests that i have done with electricity and zappers, including putting the electrodes in different places to create more paths of current, here are the places where the worms have moved and hid :
In the digestive tube (bottom of the small intestine, colon)
In the lungs
In the sinuses
In the brain
In the scalp
In the ears
In the eyes
In some lymph nodes (in the neck, below the arms, in the elbows, in the knees)
All these places have one or all of these attributes in common : it can be hollow or obstructed or with poor circulation, or made of a material with a lower conductivity.
No matter how much intensity you will use, the current will always travel through the materials of less resistance.
With this in mind, what's your plan to kill the worms in the brain, in the scalp, in the ears, in the eyes, without damaging the brain or the nervous system or loosing your sight or earing ?
I maintain that zappers are dangerous if the person is infected with a kind of worm which can travel in others parts of the body (the head).
In this case, (some) drugs or herbs are more efficient and safer.
I also maintain that the treatment one choose, must be accompanied with a cleansing of the interior of the body, especially the main organs of elimination and the filters, in order to remove most obstructions from the body. Else the electricity or the drugs or the herbs won't be able to reach some parts of the body with enough intensity/concentration.
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This is a reply to # 1,893,926>- some materials have a higher conductivity than others. That's a fact.
Absolutely. There are also multiple modes of conduction. One reason that the square wave becomes rounded when applied to the body is that the body has a capacitive nature to it that transmits higher frequencies better than lower frequencies. Antonio ( MZap ) has published so good info on his zapper pages.
And yes, each layer or system in the body has its own particular characteristics. I have placed both external and external monitoring electrodes so that I could see as much of what is happening as I possibly can.
>- there are many small paths and only one big path with a higher intensity.
Again, This does not entirely agree with the data that I have seen. Yes, you can force the signal to appear to be concentrated in certain areas but that does not mean the it is actually that concentrated. It does not take a a very strong current to provide an illuminating effect to the eyes. You may only be getting a couple percent of the signal through the optic nerve but the effect may make you feel as if it is all going through that path. The other paths are just not noticed so much.
>- But as you explained, you may feel the current in your teeth,
Yes, this can be very noticeable but that does not mean that all or even most of the current is going through that route.
>- my demonstration above proves the contrary.
Again, I have to disagree. The optic nerve is a major sensory path that we are very tuned to in such a way that if only one percent of the signal passes through it, it produces overwhelming importance to our brain. Other nerves such as the facial nerves may be conducting as much as 10 or 20 times the current without ever being noticed. This is because it is not as important in the sensory nervous system.
The same is true for the trigeminal. olfactory, and opthalmic nerves, all of which may be carrying as much current or even more, without being noticed because the optic sensory system is determined to be more important to the bodies functioning.
>- In the digestive tube (bottom of the small intestine, colon)
This is the purpose of augmentation footpads, to reach this area of the body. Note that only the augmentation mode will wotk where the basic mode ( 1 footpad positive, 1 footpad negative ) will not.
>- In the sinuses
I must disagree, due to the significant success that I have had there. The method used and the exact placement of the electrodes is very important.
>- In the brain
This can be reached but I consider it to be risky to even try. Do not try this at home :^)
>- In the eyes
Possible but the possible consequences are too great unless you are already at great risk of blindness from parasites.
>- In the ears
I have has success placing the positive paddle over the area of the neck where the eustacian tubule passed. I used to have significant earblockage and have some loss of hearing as a result. The zapper helped me tremendously with this area.
>- No matter how much intensity you will use, the current will always travel through the materials of less resistance.
They may be concentrated through those areas, but that does not mean that other areas do not get any effect.
>- With this in mind, what's your plan to kill the worms in the brain, in the scalp, in the ears, in the eyes, without damaging the brain or the nervous system or loosing your sight or earing ?
Interesting that you left out the bladder which is considered to be the hardest organ to reach.
While I do not offer this as advice to anyone else, I would do the following:
The Brain: I would use every pathway possible with due caution. There are many nerves that lead to the barin that can carry a signal and I would lean toward a lower level signal for a longer duration.
I have heard in the past, from some who reported success in eliminating toxoplasma, which thrives in the brain. Since you feel that the brain can not be zapper, how do you explain this.
AFAIK, the scalp can be easily zapped. Either the hair would need to be very wet with salt water or the head shaved.
>- in the ears
I, myself, have had success with this. Not perfect but definite success.
As for the eyes, that is a major consideration. There is not any reason that this would fail only the associated risks are too great for most of us.
>- I maintain that zappers are dangerous if the person is infected with a kind of worm which can travel in others parts of the body (the head).
Again, I accept that it could be possibly dangerous if not properly planned and carried out. But if one can defeat toxoplasma using a zapper, then there is significant enough evidence that parasites can be herded away from the brain or other areas by using better technique.
>- In this case, (some) drugs or herbs are more efficient and safer
Possibly in some cases, but this is definitely not my experience. Most drugs are very damaving with effects often not showing up for years after their usage, thereby hiding the true causes of general or systemic maladies.
>- I also maintain that the treatment one choose, must be accompanied with a cleansing of the interior of the body, especially the main organs of elimination and the filters,
Absolutely agreed. In a vehicle, putting an octane booster in the gasoline or replacing spark plugs will not fix motor oil that has not been changed for years nor will it fix a clogged or leaky radiator.
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This is a reply to # 1,894,142...it really is primarily the scalp subcutaneous tissue that is one major concern for me because of the infection and its resultant bacterial fallout but as you state the scalp can be easily zapped provided it is applied at a lower signal level by that I take you to mean intensity by way of voltage, is this correct?
also at a longer duration, how long would you suggest?
the brain, if I have the infection there it has not given my any debilitating problems that are noticeable by way of symptoms like those I have felt in scalp and body tissue so I wonder if you could explain further where the placement of electrodes would be best applied to the scalp area of the head.
would two small or larger copper pads [both POS electrodes] be ok, holding onto the NEG electrode and what are the areas to avoid on the head, apart from the eyes. I thought the lower to mid-line part of the back of the scalp with one pad placed on the left and the other right. Surely a lower signal level could not invade the scull bone or can it?
AFAIK? what is this abbrev?
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This is a reply to # 1,894,184AFAIK = as far as I know
FWIW = for what its worth
As far as scalp zapping goes, I can not share a lot of expertise.
One way that I might consider is:
Wash hair, rinse thoroughly, soak in salt water, wrap and cover with a paper towel and then place the positive electrodes at the top of the scalp. I would then close my eyes and turn the unit on. If I suddenly saw light at any significant brightness, I would turn it back off. The light might be an indication of electricity passing through the eyes or down the optic nerve.
I would also do this in a very quiet place where I could hear a pin drop. When the zapper was turned on, I would listen for any whine,whistle, squeal, or other noise that appeared when the zapper was on and that went away when the zapper was off.
If everything appeard to be safe, I would continuing following a normal zapping routine.
This is just the way that I would try it.
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This is a reply to # 1,894,142[quote]
It does not take a a very strong current to provide an illuminating effect to the eyes. You may only be getting a couple percent of the signal through the optic nerve but the effect may make you feel as if it is all going through that path. The other paths are just not noticed so much.
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The optic nerve is a major sensory path that we are very tuned to in such a way that if only one percent of the signal passes through it, it produces overwhelming importance to our brain. Other nerves such as the facial nerves may be conducting as much as 10 or 20 times the current without ever being noticed. This is because it is not as important in the sensory nervous system.
The same is true for the trigeminal. olfactory, and opthalmic nerves, all of which may be carrying as much current or even more, without being noticed because the optic sensory system is determined to be more important to the bodies functioning.
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They may be concentrated through those areas, but that does not mean that other areas do not get any effect.
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I agree with what you explained but that was not what i meant.
I understand that some sensory organs or nerves are more sensible than others parts of the body, but what i meant was that if by putting 2 electrodes on the skin of the head (one on the forehead near the eyes and one on the back of the head at the top) there is no "white effect", and by putting the 2 electrodes in another position (one on the forehead near the eyes and one on the back of the head at the bottom) there is a "white effect", it means that the current is not spread equally through all parts of the body but instead through one or several big paths and several small paths.
If the current was spread equally in all parts of the body, or concerning my previous example, in the head, the "white effect" should happen in both cases. And this is not the case.
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Interesting that you left out the bladder which is considered to be the hardest organ to reach.
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Yes, i agree, but i don't feel any worms biting or moving in this area, that's why i have not mentionned it. We can also add the vagina, which is hollow, but i am not concerned about this.
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AFAIK, the scalp can be easily zapped.
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If by "easily zapped" you mean to make a current pass in it, i agree. If you mean to make a current pass with enough intensity to kill worms, from my experience, i don't agree, even with large electrodes and a very wet skin there is a risk of burning the skin or damaging the brain before killing the worms.
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I have heard in the past, from some who reported success in eliminating toxoplasma, which thrives in the brain. Since you feel that the brain can not be zapper, how do you explain this.
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But if one can defeat toxoplasma using a zapper, then there is significant enough evidence that parasites can be herded away from the brain or other areas by using better technique.
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I don't agree, you can't compare toxoplasma which is a small and probably weak organism with parasites like roundworms, tapeworms, flukes, filarial worm, which are more resistant organisms, and the proof is that they can move to avoid the current. The Hulda Clark concepts about how a parasite is weak if you change is environment or if you zap them is so false, and there are others on this forum who have had the same experience.
Maybe the effeciency of a zapper is not a matter of the amount of current one can take, but rather a matter of a specific waveform or a specific frequency... There are many tests to be done on this subject, and i have to build my own zapper now, because all the zappers i have tried were not powerfull enough to kill big parasites. They certainly work against bacterias and small organisms, but a primitive diet or herbs are also effective against these...
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Most drugs are very damaving with effects often not showing up for years after their usage, thereby hiding the true causes of general or systemic maladies.
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This is a reply to # 1,894,300>- it means that the current is not spread equally through all parts of the body but instead through one or several big paths and several small paths.
Yes, I do agree that with a two electrode system, the signal will basically be the strongest in a path that is close to being directly between the two electrodes. This goes with any placement. I showed this in my tests of field intensity across various points of the body with various placements of two electrodes.
This is the very reason that I introduced the augmentation footpads to improve the overall distribution of the signal. Perhaps a 5 point system would be better in protecting areas that you might be concerned over.
>- one on the forehead near the eyes and one on the back of the head at the bottom) there is a "white effect",
Yes, this is forcing more of the signal through the optic pathway, through the eyes, down the optic nerve, and through the occipital lobe. This is the very reason that I warn to avoid being near the eyes and the base of the skull.
Also, note that when the electrode is placed far enough away from the eyes and the other electrode is far enough from the base of the skull, the majority signal passes outside of the skull through the scalp because the distance is significantly shorter and therefore, the resistance is less through that path. It does not mean however, that none passes through the optical route, it may be just below your threshold of sensitivity.
>- Yes, i agree, but i don't feel any worms biting or moving in this area, that's why i have not mentionned it (bladder).
This is the very reason that I did mention it. Dr. Clark said that the zapper could not reach inside of the bladder. Yet, according to our past surveys, the customers who responded to having used augmentation footpads, 100 percent reported significant success in stopping bladder infections while those who did not use the pads reported almost no success. This is significant and bears witness to what I am saying. Everything depends on the actual method of application,
>- you can't compare toxoplasma which is a small and probably weak organism with parasites like roundworms,
I only present it as evidence that the brain area can be and essentially is reached by the pulses from the zapper. This basically negates any claim that the brain can not be reached by the zapper.
I do completely agree that Ascaris is probably the absolutely most difficult parasite to kill in the body. Yes, Ascaris will tend to migrate to any area that produces less of a threat to it.
That aside, I still submit that if you had started with a 4 point contact system, having 3 points positive, you would have had better luck killing your adversaries and significantly reduced chance of having them migrate, except torward the hand with the negative electrode. I guess that a rancher would call it herding.
I do believe that possibly a fifth small electrode at the neck area may have been beneficial in helping to herd the critters away from delicate areas.
I also believe that the zapper used may have a definite influence on the outcome. I think that many people start with cheaper zappers to save money or just because they are not sure it works and in the long run, they pay a price.
>- Maybe the effeciency of a zapper is not a matter of the amount of current one can take, but rather a matter of a specific waveform or a specific frequency
I agree, that it is a combination. You need sufficient voltage and current as well as the right frequency and waveform. If any of these criteria are not met, then complete success can not follow.
>- because all the zappers i have tried were not powerfull enough to kill big parasites.
What zappers have you tried? And have you tried them with paddles and augmentation footpads ( not the regular footpads that come from some zapper companies ).
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This is a reply to # 1,894,368I'm trying to set up an electrode application plan for using when I receive my CC1 with copper pads and pipe using the 4-point contacts you mention [3 x Pos] with [1 x Neg using one pipe] - applied to hand or foot].
Years back I had the white effect but quickly moved my HC program-key de-luxe zapper away from the area that caused this to happen so I'm aware of the white effect and of tooth sensitivity.
Using the 3 x POS contacts on the skull area [where the scalp tissue is most affected, I suspect it to be Ascaris or some other roundworm or even cestode] - so I'm thinking of placing 1st x POS contact at the Frontal Bone which is at the top of the skull and the 2nd x POS contact at the Occiptal bone which is at the back of the skull about mid-way up from the skull base but NOT at the base as you have warned].
[Q} - The 3rd x POS contact could be placed at another spot away from the eyes and sensitive risky areas, not sure where the 3rd POS should go? [no I won't ask you that one!] lol
Since I have no positive test result for what frequency I should be using, I will have go through each frequency in turn for the paras that I suspect. more as a process of elimination in three or four timed [? = mins] sessions with a 20 minute break in between. This brings about 3 or to 6 possibilities in mind as I've not been abroad but I did have a farm where I had lots of animals and a few pets in the UK.
I could use the Sweep program but this might be more tedious and long being more a hit and miss method than rather applying a specific frequency each in turn. Once I feel I'm getting somewhere with a positive result than I run a frequency or frequencies on their specific eggs as well.
Voltage/Current/Frequencies/Waveform :
[Q] - What is the safer voltage and current to use when using contacts on the head?
Waveforms - I have read some info on this but can't remember off-hand what waveform that brings the most positive results, is it square, sine or other? [?]
Any clarity to my questions would be of immense help, I am aware of the hazards if contacts are applied incorrectly but I've no other option that cleared or controlled the infection including multiple drugs and herbs which leaves just zapping.
If my memory is correct, I think zapping did help control the infection years ago to the point of thinking I was cured, big mistake - I should have continued zapping.
Your response is much appreciated!
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I only present it as evidence that the brain area can be and essentially is reached by the pulses from the zapper. This basically negates any claim that the brain can not be reached by the zapper.
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Yes i agree that a small amount of current can reach all parts of the body, as a small amount of sun light can probably reach the inside of the body and a small amount of audio waves can probably reach the interior of the body.
But your goal is to kill parasites or to amuse them ? If your goal is to kill parasites, especially the big ones like roundworms, tapeworms, filarial worms, flukes, a high enough intensity is important.
Well in fact, i don't know, i have only noticed that the higher the intensity is, the more the worms seem to be distrubed and try to avoid the current.
I have also tried to use several frequencies (from 10Hz to 1000000Hz with only 0.25mA of current, and this has not improved the killing effect, in fact it was useless, the worms have not moved at all...
The truth is that many zappers are sold because most people don't understand electricity and electronics and they are fascinated by this "new treatment".
But the fact is that most zappers are useless against big parasites.
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That aside, I still submit that if you had started with a 4 point contact system, having 3 points positive, you would have had better luck killing your adversaries and significantly reduced chance of having them migrate, except torward the hand with the negative electrode. I guess that a rancher would call it herding.
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What zappers have you tried? And have you tried them with paddles and augmentation footpads ( not the regular footpads that come from some zapper companies ).
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I have tried several zappers : the Hulda Clark zapper, the terminator 2 zapper, the best zapper (the worst zapper! with the more hype and lies), the ultimate zapper, the digital zapper (a weak frequency generator), the nano orgone zapper, the sota blood purifier, and recently the Michael Forest's zapper.
I have wasted thousand of euros for these useless devices, except the ultimate zapper that helped me to get rid of 1 big wart on the foot and several warts on the hands. So you may ask why have you wasted so much money on these devices if they don't work ? I am part of the people who have seen many allopath doctors who have not helped me to diagnose the real cause of the "chronic diseases" i have had. So i try others solutions to improve my health...
I have to admit that the ultimate zapper and the Michael Forest's zapper are on the good track, because they have a high enough output voltage and a high enough maximum intensity allowed. These 2 zappers are the best i have and they are effective to kill warts and tooth infections, and probably to kill some skin infections.
However concerning big parasites like roundworms and filarial worms, they are useless. They seem to disturb the parasites, the parasites move to others areas, but they don't die even after several hours of zapping.
Now you will keep telling me that i have to place several positive electrodes on different parts of the body and one negative electrode on the hand or on the feet.
I have tried this, in several ways, the problem is that if i put electrodes on the skin where it is sensible, the skin can be and will be damaged. I know because i have several scars because of this, even if i increase the output intensity progressively, the sensible skin can burn.
The best way i have found to use a zapper is like this : one positive electrode on the right hand, one positive electrode on the left hand, one positive electrode on the top of the head (with wet hair and wet scalp), one negative electrode on the feet.
These problems remain :
1)All the zappers i have are not powerfull enough (i mean a high enough output voltage and a high enough maximum intensity allowed.)
2)The current does not kill the parasites instantaneously, and some worms who have an ability to move fast, go hide in others parts of the body where there is less current.
3)The current does not spread in all parts of the body equally, an the worms can move to others parts of the body where there is less current.
Here : //www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1888744#i
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Confirmed, at least for ParaZapper products. Current ranges from 3.9 ma up to 9.6 ma for the ParaZapper CCa - adjustable.
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Your zapper seems really weak. I don't understand how you can claim to have up to 9.6mA of current circulating through the body with only an ouput voltage of 9VDC.
From my tests it is impossible, i would need 36VDC or more with really wet electrodes in order to reach this intensity.
And this guy apparently agrees with me :
Here : //www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1888921#i
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In fact, for me to get to 9 milliamps (assuming the same resistance is being presented by my body), I would need to increase the output to 90 volts.
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Have you measured the intensity going through the body when a person use your zapper with wet electrodes ? Or is it just a theory from the calculations you have done ?
Let me guess :
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Total resistance = body resistance + zapper output resistance. assuming a body resistance of 730 ohms, the CCa circuit will adjust the zapper output resistance to 100 ohms ( the minimum that it allows ). This is a total of 830 ohms. The output current would be 8.0 volts / 833 ohms = 9.6 ma.
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A theory ?
By reading your posts, i understand that you have the fear that some of your customer electrocutes themselves if you sell a more powerfull zapper. I can understand your position, you don't want to be sued, but from my tests, a weak zapper is useless against big parasites. (yes you can probably kill bacterias, toxoplasma and others small organisms).
Of course i understand that the greater the contact surface is, the higher the intensity can be.
What kind of electrodes do you use ?
I currently use the electrodes of the ultimate zapper (stainless steel handolds and footpads) and i have also made similar electrodes in copper.
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This is a reply to # 1,894,607>- most zappers are useless against big parasites.
Agreed - Most ...
>- I have tried several zappers
Yes, I have too and I do agree that there are limitations to zappers but some are better at somethings than others.
>- concerning big parasites like roundworms and filarial worms, they are useless
This may be the case for the zappers that you have used but not necessarily for all.
>- I have tried this, in several ways, ... the skin can be and will be damaged.
Your electrodes are probably way too small and you possibly may not be using a strong enough salt water solution for good conductivity.
>- Your zapper seems really weak
How can you claim weak when it produces more current than the other zappers that you mentioned? 10.0 ma is considered a safety threshold, 20.0 ma is considered potentially deadly.
>- i would need
Are you using a strong salt water?
>- Have you measured the intensity going through the body when a person use your zapper with wet electrodes ?
Actually measured. Did a group of 7 volunteers, got minimums, maximums, averages, etc.
>- A theory ?
No, actual mathematics that can be proven. It is called Ohm's law.
>- What kind of electrodes do you use ?
We use copper because it is safer and is a better conductor. The pads are 9-1/2 inches long by 3-1/2 to 4-1/2 inches wide ( trapezoidal ).
Copper pipes are 3/4 dia by 4-1/2 inches long.
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Your electrodes are probably way too small and you possibly may not be using a strong enough salt water solution for good conductivity.
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I use exactly the same electrodes you show on your website...
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How can you claim weak when it produces more current than the other zappers that you mentioned?
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Because with a 9V battery and 3 or 4 wet electrodes anybody can try to measure the intensity circulating in the body with a multimeter and it will not be 9.6mA... From my tests, the frequency does not seem to "decrease resistance" as Hulda Clark claimed.
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Are you using a strong salt water?
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I use salt water but please tell me what dosage you use and i will try to do it your way.
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Actually measured. Did a group of 7 volunteers, got minimums, maximums, averages, etc.
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Ok and 9.6mA is what ? A maximum ? With 9VDC ? On an average adult human ? I want to see that.
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No, actual mathematics that can be proven. It is called Ohm's law.
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Mathematics with "assuming a body resistance of 730 ohms" is really not accurate and can't be proven, it is a theory. There are many parameters which can change the resistance of the human body. Your calculation can't be accurate.
I prefer measures done when i use the device. These are facts.
Can you show us your values of the measured intensities for the 7 persons, with your zapper setup at the maximum intensity allowed ? I am curious to see that.
The other person "Retsel" i have mentionned before has made similar measures that i have done.
So either i don't understand a trick you do with your device to produce such a high intensity with only 9VDC or you are a magician.
If i use the Ohm's law and i do the same calculations you have done :
With 45VDC (Five 9V batteries) :
45.0 Volts / 830 Ohms = 54.21 ma.
In theory i should be dead ! But i am not !
I have measured up to 12mA with One negative electrode (wet) for the feet and 2 positive electrodes (wet) in the hands.
Maybe i don't use enough salt in my water.
Please give me your recipe to make salt water and i will do others measures.
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