Having a real rough day - Vervain 
elan164
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Started sipping real vervaine and blue vervaine yesterday. Today i am basically a cripple. All my muscles ache, severe lower back pain, pain behind the eyes, frontal lobe presssure, extremely cold feet, fever/chills, loose stool, nauseous.
Using dmsa, ala, mag/pot aspartates, cilantro, gold leaf, reverse alch, msm, salt, vit c, iodine, ip6, manganese, malt.
Haven't eaten anything all day, just a glass of raw milk and some scd yogurt. It's been painful searching through posts today and im a little confused on a few things, hoping someone can shed some light.
While sipping vervaine, should i be running just the pineal script? Ive found posts that say to run vervaine freqs, psychic attachments, and all the Tapeworm scripts, but not sure if those posts are outdated.
I read vervaine tincture is not heat stable, will having a hot tub affect the vervaine? The hot tub really helps my body aches and cold feet. I have borax, h202, epsom, salt in my hot tub.
Are coffee enemas recommended while on the vervaine? Id love to do one, just uncertain if it would be wise.
All the frequencies i ran yesterday and today, i have ran numerous times before and have had no herxing. This vampire juice definitely uncovered a mess. I almost regret taking it, im in such agony.
Also have the T2 with tapped contacts on in my pocket or on the back of my neck whenever i can.
Thanks for any advice.
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- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... johng
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This is a reply to # 1,883,051Elan- sounds like a few of the posts you are reading are probably dated.
I think a Coffee-Enema sounds like a great idea for you. Vervain Tea is ok, it has beneficial properties, but not the component that gets the worms as it is not heat stable... hot Epsom Salt bath sounds good as well... was thinking about that for myself tonight.- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... wen
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,883,053Elan-
I had a rough go with Vervaine for a while too.
Cant remember why? but i did it over and over and got that herx your going through. i would do a CE, it helps...
I think eventually I was able to tolerate vervaine but after I cleared a lot of stuff....
- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... wen
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- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... musimesipomahat
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This is a reply to # 1,883,051if you can start drinking a lot of Colloidal Silver it helps
from your symptoms I think it could be either echinoccocus (the multicularis one can get very very very long and creates cysts filled with candida and they hate vervain, it does not kill them but makes them angry, anyway, this one is absolutely nasty one) or trichinella spiralis
large amounts of Colloidal Silver (drinking every day about 1 liter of Colloidal Silver or taking the silver sheets) helped me the most with these two and guessing from reading about your symptoms you might have one of the above or both too
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- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... bluetone
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This is a reply to # 1,883,085The pathogen which is makiing you ill is not getting really mad. If you have been consuming Colloidal Silver , and it is truly CS and not some company's tap water product, then you experience Herzheimer Response.
The same response that your body has experienced a hundred times during your life when your HEALTHY IMMUNE SYSTEM (which isn't working anymore) did its job when you caught a cold virus, or influenza virus. The Colloidal Silver is simply doing the job that your worn out immune system can't any longer!
CS kills the pathogen (die-off), and the die-off must be eliminated through your eliminatory systems of the body.
THE PATHOGEN DOESN'T GET MAD....IT DIES!
The Herzheimer Syndrome or Response is what makes you feel unwell.
LUNGS: coughing
LOWER BACK PAIN: kidneys
SWEATING: skin (largerst organ in the body)
SWOOLEN GLANDS: Lymph System
etc. All these systems are responsible for the die-off of the pathogen, and are responsible for pushing them out of the body. This makes you well again.
DON'T STOP TAKING Colloidal Silver BECAUSE YOU FEEL THAT IT IS MAKING YOU ILL...IT IS DOING WHAT YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM CAN'T. IF THE HERZHEIMER RESPONSE IS TOO UNCOMFORTABLE AND INTENSE, BACK OFF THE AMOUNG OF COLLOIDAL SILVER THAT YOU ARE TAKING EACH DAY.
...and REALLY! a litre a day...I don't think you are buying a reputable CS product...Oh well, perhaps when you get a really nasty infection you can up your dose to a half a gallon a day.
John P. Hughes
- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... bluetone
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- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... #118887
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This is a reply to # 1,883,051I think I stopped herxing for the most part and other similar reactions around the time I used a Lakhovsky coil around my waist for awhile. http://www.lakhovskyscoil.com/thecoil.htm
Around the neck may also help.
By the way, here is a quote regarding biotoxins "•Many patients exhibit a clawing of the fingers and toes." http://betterhealthguy.com/joomla/blog/251-biotoxin-illness-conference-2011
- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... elan164
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This is a reply to # 1,883,105Thanks for all the advice people, really appreciate it. Feeling a lot better today, still unloading evidence in the toilet, but at least now my brain isn't pounding with every step i take. Had an epsom bath last night then went straight to bed. Really helped with my muscles/body aches.
I did hit trichi last night before bed, i know this has been an issue with me before, so it might have helped. Serious sweats last night.
Interesting about the clawing of toes, will read over that link a few more times. I have tried the coil in the past, just kind of inconvenient, may give it another go.
So can anyone comment on whether one should just run the pineal scriipt and let the doctrine handle this business, or should i be running certain scripts? Right now ive been running the pineal at night and sometimes during the day, then i run whatever scripts i find that are related to symptoms im having.
- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... #118887
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This is a reply to # 1,883,225"I have tried the coil in the past, just kind of inconvenient, may give it another go."
The very thin 18 gauge or so wires also work just not as good as the thicker 12 gauge or thicker ones but are more convenient to use.
Can also wear it only when going through a herx.
It's pretty similar to the Violet Ray for pain, etc.. For example, knee hurts, just put it around the knee for a bit and will help like the Violet Ray. - Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... musimesipomahat
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This is a reply to # 1,883,225from my experience the pineal works really well for Tapeworms (could be that is because Newport created this one when he was dealing with tapeworms) or ascaris
otherwise I think if you know what is the main problem at any given moment, treat the specific critter - that is what I do and it works well
doctrine runs in the background regardless what frequencies you run and sometimes it is best to get quick result with the specific frequency - that is again my own experience
because if there is a match between the frequency and the pathogen then the winning = getting rid of the monsters is a beautiful experience (kind of like a marriage that works...)- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... Plokan
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This is a reply to # 1,883,360Do you know of anyone who offers up the use of their rife type machines or zappers? I would love to find someone who would be willing to do this. I probably cant afford to buy a machine right now. I wouldnt even know which one to get. Thank you,
Pat
- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... Plokan
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- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... #118887
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- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... elan164
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- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... elan164
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This is a reply to # 1,883,051
Ok, so im going to keep this thread going as a sort of log. Something people can search for that may help when they go through this.
So my stool is still loose, a lot of floaters, black pieces that look like larger poppy seeds mixed in with brown crap. Stomach cramping, severe at times.
Noticed my face was peeling everywhere yesterday, , thought it was from tanning. Cut my hair from 1/4 inch to 1/8 inch and it looked like it was snowing in the bathroom. Big flakes falling everywhere. Haven't had a dandruff problem like this in years.
Also had some ringing in my ear, happened all of a sudden, but was only in the right ear, came on like someone flicked a switch, very noticeable.
Something that feels like it's hanging on in my intestines and blocking me, vervain and ce's havent worked so far. Other than that i feel pretty good. Wahooo, lets see where this ride will take me :)- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... elan164
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This is a reply to # 1,883,378After writing that out, i noticed my thumbs were clenching together, i realised i might be underestimating my copper issue. Took 1150 mcg molyb 1000mg taurine 25mg manganese.
Going to try tb gen and alopecia for the dandruff.
http://www.homeoint.org/books/boericmm/c/cupr.htm
- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... musimesipomahat
13 y
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This is a reply to # 1,883,381run d-immitis your latest symptoms that you have described sound like dirofilaria immitis / repens
this is still a huge problem for me as these beasts are everywhere a/d quite nasty, loaded with fungus/bacteria,
Newport did identify it as Mycobacterium phlei, it is horribly thick and nasty stuff and makes almost impossible to kill d-immitis
Colloidal Silver in large amounts helps clear it- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... elan164
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This is a reply to # 1,883,820Thanks musi, ive ran it a few times already, will run some more. Still have stuff coming out of me at an alarming rate, brown, black, green, at least ten times a day ive been running to the bathroom. Huge progress.
Going to try and make some Colloidal Silver today with my rife machine if im going to be going through liters of the stuff.
So with all the work that goes in to getting these beasts out, i want to minimize the chance of having these creatures use me as a home again. I read on here ozone kills the encasement of the eggs on produce, so i will be getting one of those machines, does cooking/steaming your veggies kill them as well? If we work to get our immmune system back will it be able to handle the future attacks from these pathogens? Knocking them off each new one as it tries to invade?- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... musimesipomahat
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This is a reply to # 1,883,854I have also posted in the parasites forum and parasites drugs forum and gave step by step what else is helping, you might want to read it because it truly helps
I mean I do run d-immitis continuously, Newports plus dna frequencies, plus doctrine is working but I found out that I do need to support this with doing all the stuff I posted there
truly really helps because I think the worse beast is this mycobacterium phlei, it is like a glue and simply nothing gets through it, especially not frequencies alone
so helps a lot to remove it and then it is running to the bathroom almost continually....
you better do not plan any trip during these days...lol- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... elan164
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This is a reply to # 1,883,883Ya interesting, i was just reading one of your posts in the thread about cloves and Tapeworms being in and around your ears. Ive had the sensation of something wiggling in my ears for a while now, must be those bastards, i thought i was going insane.
Would be so cool if there was a see through body ridden with parasites that we could observe and study haha.
Do you know of any good sites that show pictures of parasites in stool? I know most turn to dust making it hard to identify but id like to some how know what is coming out of me.- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... #118887
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This is a reply to # 1,883,891"Do you know of any good sites that show pictures of parasites in stool?"
//www.curezone.org/image_gallery/parasites/all/default.asp?i=7&n=75
Sometimes this is interesting to read //www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1777374#i
- n/m Thanks JDP! elan164 13 y 2,477
- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... musimesipomahat
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This is a reply to # 1,883,891yes, they are wrapped around my ears (sometimes it feels they are inside the ear cavity which makes sense, they are in the sinuses
I am beginning to think thought they are Ascaris suum, the bioweapon version that doesn not get touched by anything except of frequencies
I was not running a-suum for a long time, feels flat and I really thought they are Tapeworms layered with d-immitis, but today I am beginning to see that they must be Ascaris suum
the problem is that I feel any frequency on these so no matter what I run I feel it so it is hard to identify by the frequency
I remember Newport mentioning somewhere that they are mis-categorized anyway, taht a.summ are more like tapeworms, it even feels they have scolexes or something very hard and feels like bony something ached to the scalp
I do not even look anymore what comes, I am just so happy when I know some are gone, takes for ever, but now when I run the a-suum frequencies hopefully things will speed up- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... Newport
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This is a reply to # 1,884,015>>yes, they are wrapped around my ears
The Archon can project energy into the first dimension to hide things from treatment.
Use 39.7 hz via contact to diminish that effect..well for a little while longer until all the Dragons/Archon have been pulled into the daylight..
- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... Newport
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- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... #118887
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- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... elan164
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- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... musimesipomahat
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- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... elan164
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- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... musimesipomahat
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- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... elan164
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- Re: Having a real rough day - Vervai... johng
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