Probiotics and MMS 
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Hey!
I'm going to start Miracle-Mineral-Supplement and was wondering what the protocol was for probiotics? Does Miracle-Mineral-Supplement kill the good bacteria too?
I currently take Klaire Labs Ther-Biotic complete (http://www.klaire.com/prod/proddetail.asp?id=V775-06)...I take 3 capsules a day (1 with breakfast, 2 in the evening with my aloe and vit C for a total of 75 billion CFUs...but am thinking about switching to the powder for 100bill+ CFUs: http://www.klaire.com/prod/proddetail.asp?id=K-TCP)
Anyways, my questions are:
-does Miracle-Mineral-Supplement kill the good guys?
-Will taking probiotics be contradictory during MMS therapy?
-Should I continue my probiotics at the current dose or lower or increase the dose?
-When is the best time(s) to take them so that they don't interact with the MMS?
Thanks!!!
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- Re: Probiotics and MMS petluvr10
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,858,047I'm trying to treat Candida/yeast, possible parasites, heavy metals, as well as GI issues, food intolerances , CFS/FMS, hormonal imbalances, and all the other wonder issues associated with an out-of-balanced body!
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This is a reply to # 1,858,212I would start with a Metametrix GI Effects test and work from there. You really need to find out what the primary factors are first and start there. Self- diagnosis is an iffy path and seen too many failures. Some of these issues are quite complex and need some correct guidance.
Second thing I would do is look at heavy metal detox and mineral balances (which is overlooked sadly) Look at Traceelements.com for mineral testing. heavy metals should be either evaluated thru a heavy metal challenge (doctors data) or treat without lab results.
Any abnormal test results (blood)?
Vitamin D3 levels checked?
I would also look at homeopathy to treat viral conditions such as HHV6, cytomegleovirus, ebv etc.
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- Re: Probiotics and MMS petluvr10
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This is a reply to # 1,858,533I have done the metametrix test and 3 different metals tests. I have a file folder 4 in thick of tests, so i'm not self-diagosing.
My chiro wants to put me on Miracle-Mineral-Supplement b/c nothing else has worked. - Probiotics as adjuvant therapy for U... WellCome
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This is a reply to # 1,858,533Probiotics as adjuvant therapy for UTI downregulate cytokines – case study
A case study of 2 patients with spinal cord injury and urinary tract infection (UTI) demonstrate that Lactobacillus rhamnosus GR-1 and Lactobacillus reuteri RC-14 as adjuvant therapy can down regulate cytokines.
Probiotic Lactobacillus rhamnosus GR-1
and Lactobacillus reuteri RC-14
May Help Downregulate TNF-Alpha, IL-6, IL-8,
IL-10 and IL-12 (p70) in the Neurogenic Bladder
of Spinal Cord Injured Patient
with Urinary Tract Infections: A Two-Case Study
http://www.hindawi.com/journals/au/2009/680363/
Excerpt:
>> This is the first study showing the effect of
probiotics in augmenting antimicrobial therapy
in downregulation of inflammatory urinary cytokines
in a spinal cord injured individual with UTI.
The one probiotic product I have found with these
2 probiotics is Jarrow Fem Dolphilus-at link below
http://www.vitacost.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Fem-Dophilus-60-Capsules-1/?ntt=79001...
- Re: Probiotics and MMS petluvr10
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- Re: Probiotics and MMS linenup
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- Re: Probiotics and MMS petluvr10
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- Re: Probiotics and MMS gmitch1
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This is a reply to # 1,858,012MMS kills everything in its path, and can do some serious damage. I've been trying to recover for 8 months now after having my candida/adrenal issues seriously worsened from Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . To the point where I thought I was going to die. Just a friendly warning here.
There is no easy solution or magic cure for candida. You simply have to clean up toxins and metals from your body and give your body proper nutrition. That usually means eating whole low carb and low glycemic foods.
If you're going low carb you'll need to increase natural fats though. Otherwise you won't feel full. Natural fats meaning butter, coconut oil, egg yolks, olive oil, and yes animal fats.
That's what's helped me the most anyways, diet and patients is key. Probiotics haven't really done a thing for me, so I can't say which brand to pick, sorry.- Re: Probiotics and MMS jameskep37
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This is a reply to # 1,858,123Ive found probiotics to be ineffective until candida is down to a minumum. When there is too much candida i think the candida just eliminates any probiotics that try to colonize. Thus just causing a inflammation response more than anything. Coconut oil seems to be helping more than anything. For me it doesnt aggravate my gut like other anti-fungals and the die-off is more manegable. Coconut oil is great for the winter time when you need to help boost the metabolism.
- Re: Probiotics and MMS petluvr10
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This is a reply to # 1,858,162I've tried coconut oil many times and i reacted to it every time. I'm sure it wasn't a herx reaction either, for it resembled what i experience when I eat something i'm intolerant to. (GI issues, dry skin, breaking out, dry hair...).
If I decide to try CO again, how much should I use? Do I decrease my intake of other fats so that I don't get too much fat in my diet? I already get 30+% of my diet from fat (40-35% carbs, the rest protein) (I'm tiny...I'm 5'1 and about 20 pounds underwt)
- Re: Probiotics and MMS petluvr10
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- Re: Probiotics and MMS petluvr10
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This is a reply to # 1,858,123There seems to be such a differing of opinions and experiences with Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . Some say it was the only thing that worked...others say it made things worse.
My Chiro is making sure I start really slow. I've been battling candida for longer than i can remember, and i've tried nearly everything (herbs, homeopathy, diet, supplements...), so he wants to try this since nothing else has really worked.
However, I am frightened by the warnings I am getting by other people. How did it damage u? How were u instructed to take it? How long did u use it?- Re: Probiotics and MMS gmitch1
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This is a reply to # 1,858,215I was doing the jim humble protocol of 15 drops twice a day, then I changed to 3 drops an hour for about 3-4 hours a day. I used Miracle-Mineral-Supplement for about a month total with a break in there after 3 weeks. I'm not exactly sure how it damaged me but I've heard it's very hard on the adrenals, and the adrenals are actually key in fighting infection. Your adrenals utilize copper, one of the if not the strongest anti-fungal there is.
Info on copper: http://www.drlwilson.com/Articles/candida.htm
I've also heard it kills the good flora. I don't see why this wouldn't be true, after all it is a bleach, and it is used to sterilize all bacteria on medical equipment.
I also forgot to mention natural fats are natural antifungals, and cholesterol is essential for fighting cancer and infections. McCombs uses a fatty acid to inhibit candida, but the same effect comes from butter, lard, coconut oil, ghee/butter and etc.
this website has helped me the most:
http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php
- Re: Probiotics and MMS gmitch1
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This is a reply to # 1,859,061I should probably mention that after a week of use I felt the best I had ever in my life. But then I had a relapse shortly after. From there on I was pouring gasoline on a fire every time I took Miracle-Mineral-Supplement which I mistook for die-off.
- Re: Probiotics and MMS gmitch1
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- Re: Probiotics and MMS jameskep37
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- Re: Probiotics and MMS jameskep37
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This is a reply to # 1,858,012
MMS probably kills some friendly bacteria because of its chlorine like qualities. Usually chrorine like substance are designed to kill bacteria. I wouldnt take them at the same time. Any substance that has the potential of killing friendly bacteria would be a last resort.
- Re: Probiotics and MMS petluvr10
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This is a reply to # 1,858,158So are u saying I should NOT do Miracle-Mineral-Supplement ? I've tried everything to kill candida and nothing worked.
Isn't it ok to take probiotics AWAY from Miracle-Mineral-Supplement ?- Re: Probiotics and MMS jameskep37
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This is a reply to # 1,858,217
Try candida force/coconut oil first. They will not interefere with your friendly bacteria like MMS might. Lufenuron cured one member but it is something where i would not be working and doing at the same time. You could try coconut oil again. Maybe try a small spoonful to start out with or just adjust the amount to where you can tolerate it. I have a reaction to coconut oil as well. I have a die off/detox reaction but i know i have to do go through some of this to get the candida down. Coconut oil is more mild on the gut for me than other anti-fungals. Beef fat causes more inflammation for me than coconut oil. Coconut oil/palm oil are very easy to digest as they do not require bile. Beef fat/ vegetable oils seem harder to digest. I cant do much animal fat but find i can tolerate the coconut oil and spectrum palm oil much better. They seem to be easier to digest. Coconut oil and palm oil seem to give me more energy than animal fat. I dont do the oils in the evening, because it can disturb my sleep.
- Re: Probiotics and MMS LymegirlPA
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This is a reply to # 1,858,584The other option may be to try to strenghten your GI tract w/some things like: DGL, Zinlori (and I'm sure others have suggestions). This could help your body fight the excess candida...prebiotics may also be helpful (chicory, jerusalem artichoke, inulin etc...).
Just a thought....the "truth in medicine" forum on this site has many helpful suggestions....
- Re: Probiotics and MMS LymegirlPA
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- Re: Probiotics and MMS triphala
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This is a reply to # 1,858,217went to a something brett smith doctor san diego.... cured mainly remember the oregano capsules and beta glucan but was other things
- Re: Probiotics and MMS jameskep37
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- Re: Probiotics and MMS petluvr10
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- Re: Probiotics and MMS QueenruBee
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This is a reply to # 1,858,012Best not to take together as it will lessen the chances of the probiotic working. Take mms at night before bed. Take probiotic about 20 mins before breakfast on empty stomach. The other 2 take between lunch and dinner. Hope that helps :-)
- Re: Probiotics and MMS petluvr10
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This is a reply to # 1,859,205I was under the impression that FOS/inulin was not good, for it not only fed the good guys, but also the bad guys since it is a food source for BOTH and thus cannot discriminate between the two. Also, we eat enough natural forms of carbs to feed the flora, thus FOS/inulin is not needed. What is the consensus on this?
That being said, which probiotic would u recommend for me?
1. Custom Probiotcs Adult CP-1 5 strain caps: http://www.customprobiotics.com/cust...rmula-cp-1.htm
2. Custom Probiotics 11 stain powder: http://www.customprobiotics.com/cust...-11-strain.htm
3. Klaire Labs 12 strain powder or caps (contains inulin and a proprietary polysaccharide blend....the company assured me it only fed the good bacteria and not the pathogens, but IDK how a food source can be species-specific...): http://www.klaire.com/prod/proddetail.asp?id=K-TCP
or caps: http://www.klaire.com/prod/proddetail.asp?id=V775-12
Is a POWDER recommended or are CAPS?
And should I be taking S Boulardi:
http://www.klaire.com/prod/proddetail.asp?id=V776-12
What brand of Chlorella do u recommend? Is this one ok: http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Chlor...Vcaps/497?at=0
(I like that they are vcaps and not tabs, for I dont digest tabs).
How do I take chlorella? Should I take this during the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement treatment or after?
Thanks!!!!!- Re: Probiotics and MMS jtswan
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This is a reply to # 1,859,276I have been taking caprylic acid for a couple months now. That has knocked the candida symptoms way down.
Caprylic acid is a derivitive of coconut.
- Re: Probiotics and MMS petluvr10
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This is a reply to # 1,861,695Do u think caprylic acid works better than coconut oil? How much are u taking and how are u taking it? Did u modify your diet and if so, in what way?
- Re: Probiotics and MMS jtswan
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This is a reply to # 1,861,780Personally, I do both.
I use coconut oil to cook with, and take random spoonfuls.
I started Caprylic acid, because it was simple. I just keep it by my bed and take 2 or 3 at night.
sometimes i take xtra caps during the day. I went through 2 bottles, and a lot of the candida signs are gone. bloating...etc. i just generally feel better. i also use hydrochloric acid/pepsin with meals, If i feel any stomach upsets, also more randomly, than orderly. The combination seems to work well.
- Re: Probiotics and MMS jtswan
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- Re: Probiotics and MMS petluvr10
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- Re: Probiotics and MMS petluvr10
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This is a reply to # 1,859,205QueenRUBee: Have u done Miracle-Mineral-Supplement ? What was ur experience? Did u change ur diet and take other supplements?
- Re: Probiotics and MMS petluvr10
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