Please take DHEA: 20 minute cure. 
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MoreDear souls, please take 5-10 mg of an over the counter adrenal hormone, DHEA, if you experience anxiety. If you feel better in 20 minutes, you have adrenal collapse/adrenal insufficiency. Women should then take the KETO-7 form of DHEA as it doesn't form collateral hormones; men can take up to 25 mg as it is a more masculine-type hormone but one women need. DHEA is depleted by stress, loud noise, sugar, caffeine, nicotine; and the adrenals are fed by mineral salts like kelp and good fats and oils like a good ribeye steak and olive oil. No fried foods or hydrogenated fats, please. DHEA deficiency is what causes cold hands and feet, stress and anxiety and inability to relax and breath freely. Take DHEA ONLY AS NEEDED so the adrenals are not trained to get lazy.
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- Re: Please take DHEA: 20 minute cure... UserX
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This is a reply to # 1,820,802I would disagree with this.
Some people have anxiety because of low cortisol. If you have low cortisol and take extra DHEA you will lower the cortisol even more which could be deadly.
Get your levels checked before you take anything.- Re: Please take DHEA: 20 minute cure... J649
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This is a reply to # 1,820,809For people much under 40, taking a DHEA supplement without testing(and having a low level) is not a good idea. For those over 40, men taking 25 mg a day or women taking 10 mg a day even without testing seems like a good idea. The DHEA should be taken as soon as one wakes up.
- Re: Please take DHEA: 20 minute cure... J649
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- Re: Please take DHEA: 20 minute cure... thelaughingdogs
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This is a reply to # 1,820,802I am 45 and I started taking 7 Keto Dhea with high cortisol 2 months ago. I didn't noticed a change in mood but I did noticed it helped my struggling digestion a lot. It took awhile to get in my system but now it's one of my most valuable supplements.
- Re: Please take DHEA: 20 minute cure... ring5100
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This is a reply to # 1,820,862Hi. How much 7-Keto are you taking daily?
I am 56 years old.
But, when tested, blood test last time, my DHEA levels were fine.
Paulette- Re: Please take DHEA: 20 minute cure... thelaughingdogs
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This is a reply to # 1,820,880I have powder caps and I started out taking the whole cap which is 100 mg. I did that for a week and relized it was probably a bit much but had no ill effects. So now I open the cap and take about .25 to .30 of it.
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- Re: Please take DHEA: 20 minute cure... thelaughingdogs
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- Re: Please take DHEA: 20 minute cure... #138129
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This is a reply to # 1,821,139I've given up on doctors also, but they are still useful for testing!
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- Re: Please take DHEA: 20 minute cure... thelaughingdogs
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This is a reply to # 1,820,802....time to research supplements and protocols with a trained and educated herbologist or naturopath BEFORE spending money on something that may be in direct contrast with what you, as an individual, may require or respond to. Having labwork done to indicate personal serum levels is always very wise option.
It is extraordinarily RECKLESS to make a blanket statement that any one supplement or protocol is appropriate for everyone, so people use your heads and do the homework first!
And, as an aside: no supplement or protocol will cure or alleviate physical or emotional abuse!
- Re: Please take DHEA: 20 minute cure... chirontherainbowbridge
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This is a reply to # 1,820,802please read the whole thread--and take three deep breaths before trying ANYTHING
:-) - Re: Please take DHEA: 20 minute cure... Rucoco
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This is a reply to # 1,820,802
Thanks so much for putting this out there as a confirmation that this stuff works/helps AND explaining the why as well. It helped me to have a 2nd try at this stuff.
I too have found that DHEA works SUPREMELY for PTSD/anxiety (& yes it works IMMEDIATELY as well) & although I'm not out of the woods yet by any stretch of the imagination, I can tell it is what my body/brain/emotions wants & needs cos of the IMMEDIATE reponse. I havent felt my adrenals kick in for YEARS!!! Day 2 on the stuff & my thoughts arent so beyond uncontrollably racy (from the PTSD) & although I still cant feel yet it has SOOTHED my emotions like ALOT...so ANY progress/relief is good progress I reckon, so nice to know I might be on the right track. Geez I have tried EVERYTHING supplementally & holistically (looking at the whole person, lifestyle ETC) but NOTHING has given me instant results like this. I have brain/central nervous system injury & this TRULY helps. The bonus is that my eyesight got clearer almost immediately too!!! Phew it would be AMAZING to finally come out of this PTSD & feel so much more relaxed mentally & emotionally & finally reconnect with the "old me"!!! Just wanted to share that for others in the hope of helping them make up their minds to give it a go.
It TRULY works. Pregnenolone works too but it made me rather nauseous, whilst this does not (thus far). Guess we all gotta "suck it & see" what works for us individually, but my god what a long, beyond hard & expensive road......I tried the 7 Keto DHEA but it didnt have results like normal DHEA for me. I'm a 42 yr old Female. I had hormonal/anxiety & depression probs pre brain/cns injury. So I say "Listen to your own Body & Gut Instincts 1st & Foremost"!!!- Re: Please take DHEA: 20 minute cure... #174156
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This is a reply to # 2,097,969
Be aware that DHEA is a hormone and there can easily be side effects related to it. I quit DHEA a number of years ago because of heart palpitations and other negative results.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/dhea/NS_patient-dhea/DSECTION=safety
Side Effects and Warnings
Few side effects are reported when DHEA supplements are taken by mouth in recommended doses. Side effects may include fatigue, nasal congestion, headache, acne, or rapid/irregular heartbeats. In women, the most common side effects are abnormal menses, emotional changes, headache, and insomnia. Individuals with a history of abnormal heart rhythms, blood clots or hypercoagulability, and those with a history of liver disease, should avoid DHEA supplements.
Because DHEA is a hormone related to other male and female hormones, there may be side effects related to its hormonal activities. For example, masculinization may occur in women, including acne, greasy skin, facial hair, hair loss, increased sweating, weight gain around the waist, or a deeper voice. Likewise, men may develop more prominent breasts (gynecomastia), breast tenderness, increased blood pressure, testicular wasting, or increased aggressiveness. Other hormonal-related side effects may include increased blood sugar levels, insulin resistance, altered cholesterol levels, altered thyroid hormone levels, and altered adrenal function. Caution is advised in patients with diabetes or hyperglycemia, high cholesterol, thyroid disorders, or other endocrine (hormonal) abnormalities. Serum glucose, cholesterol and thyroid levels may need to be monitored by a healthcare professional, and medication adjustments may be necessary.
In theory, DHEA may increase the risk of developing prostate, breast, or ovarian cancer. DHEA may contribute to tamoxifen resistance in breast cancer. Other side effects may include insomnia, agitation, delusions, mania, nervousness, irritability, or psychosis.
High DHEA levels have been correlated with Cushing's syndrome, which may be caused by excessive supplementation
- Re: Please take DHEA: 20 minute cure... Nick 12345
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This is a reply to # 2,097,969Hi rucoco,
I have suffered with anxiety for around about a year and a half now. I am 21 years old. It started after I had glandular fever. I had chronic insomnia aswell.
Is DHEA still helping you? What effects did it have on your sleep, mood, skin etc as I'm thinking of getting some.
KR- Re: Please take DHEA: 20 minute cure... joegrane
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This is a reply to # 2,343,982DHEA should not be anywhere near the top of your list of things to consider if you have an anxiety problem!
I certainly am not opposed to the use of reasonable doses of DHEA in people who need it. I am a middle aged guy who gets followup hormone tests and am working with a functional med doctor. One of the upstream hormones, pregnenolone, is also worth considering for such people.
Are you taking at least the US RDA amount of magnesuium in an absorbable form such as glycinate, citrate or Epsom Salt--Mg sulfate. The latter in a foot bath can be doubly good in the evening since sulfate is needed by the liver to detox various substances that tend to amp us up.
Have you ever tried the amino acid GABA or a precursor to it--glutamine?
Have you looked into other types of liver support?
Have you considered changes to your diet--lowering intake of stimulants, maybe phenols, various artificial flavorings or colorings that can amp people up.
I assume you are working on healthy lifestyle options--meditation, reducing stress, light exercise, etc.
I would not mess with hormones until at least the above steps have been taken.
If the above steps have been taken and you have symptoms of adrenal fatigue or insufficiency, then steroid hormones would be interesting to discuss.- Nope, but phenylethylamine for the d... duncancrow
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This is a reply to # 2,344,032I agree, the DHEA probably isn't the right supplement. I think the number one answer would be phenyl-ethylamine. What a lot of ppl are deficient in is the happy hormone dopamine, and PEA itself to a certain extent. The extra adrenaline is a nuisance but the dopamine boost is well worth it.
I had adhd and my wife, Depression that was unresponsive to SSRIs (couchlock etc...)
Look up the 'science of PEA' and see that about half the adults in the world would benefit from a bit more sunny side of the street than they have right now, and it works in minutes so could be in yer coffee.
And the test animals outlived all the controls, so it's actually a panacaea and an anti-anxiety anti-ager.
I kid you not, check it out; my judgement is OK and I'm among Curezone's Best Health Sites for 15 years of stellar advice.
Selegiline's worth a scrip if you can get it.
all good,
Duncan
https://www.crowrainforest.ca/medicine-bag/
- Re: Nope, but phenylethylamine for t... joegrane
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This is a reply to # 2,350,087While I agree with you and have used PEA and related amino acids with good effect for years, it is worth remembering that to convert PEA to the body's natural methamphetamine--methylphenethylamine--you need solid methylation ability.
People who have a mercury or cadmium problem will likely be somewhat lacking in that area. Also people with low B12, folate, choline, zinc may as well.
Also to get phenylalanine or tyrosine to convert down to dopamine we need a number of cofactors such as iron, B & C vitamins.
People who have a history of panic attacks or very intense, angry outbursts probably should not mess with catecholamine support until they have more stable health.
For some of the above, you might look for low lithium in your hair test--more on that if requested. There can be many other factors--high copper, need for support for liver, adrenal cortex, magnesium, etc.
- Re: Nope, but phenylethylamine for t... joegrane
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- Nope, but phenylethylamine for the d... duncancrow
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- Re: Please take DHEA: 20 minute cure... joegrane
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- Re: Please take DHEA: 20 minute cure... #174156
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- Re: Please take DHEA: 20 minute cure... alex59126
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This is a reply to # 1,820,802Where would you find something like this though? Was not aware that DHEA was available over the counter
- DHEA, dehydroepiandrosterone, is mos... NovaNutritions
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This is a reply to # 1,820,802DHEA, dehydroepiandrosterone, is most abundant adrenal steroid hormone in the body. It is secreted by the adrenal gland and serves as aprecursor for testosterone and estrogen which regulates fat and mineral metabolism, endocrine and reproductive function, and energy levels. DHEA levels peak around age 25 and then decline steadily.
- Re: DHEA, dehydroepiandrosterone, is... joegrane
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This is a reply to # 2,398,473Properly balancing DHEA and other adrenal cortex (steroid) hormones can be wonderful--for those who need it! Taking more of them can be awful for those who don't need them. That is one reason why professional sports ban them for their athletes.
However, if you are middle aged like me and have fatigue, belly fat, low sex drive, are not as strong as you should be, etc, then hormone balancing can be a nice puzzle piece.
Of course there could be other factors involved, for example, heavy metal toxicity fouling up enzymes needed to convert one hormone to another. Low vitamin C or zinc or something else needed by adrenals.
Also are you consuming enough cholesterol containing foods at breakfast and at Lunch? These hormones are made from cholesterol.
- Re: DHEA, dehydroepiandrosterone, is... joegrane
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