Drinking baking soda is a bad idea for so many reasons. One you are going to neutralize your stomach acid leading to a number of health issues:
http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1581539#i
Secondly that is a lot of sodium, which can lead to an electrolyte imbalance. It is the excess sodium that is likely causing the headache.
And drinking baking soda can lead to a state of alkalosis, which is also very dangerous.
This is why I have such a problem with the Acid/Alkaline forums. These forums are not about balance but rather about creating an alkaline state, which is not as healthy as they claim and as you have seen can be quite dangerous.
Lay off the baking soda and allow your system to recover.
for someone to find healing, full spectrum EM energy is necessary. this means that All the alkaline minerals must react against All the acids present, water and oil soluble, so it's no wonder that a single alkaline mineral ( sodium ) cannot convey that, and this is exactly the opposite from what's been advised on acid/alkaline balance principle forum ( ask Moreless ).
This is why I have such a problem with the Acid/Alkaline forums.
again you can't put that t-shit over you head Hv?
And drinking baking soda can lead to a state of alkalosis, which is also very dangerous.
what a BS! state of alkalosis is extremely rare, on the other hand state of acidosis is a disease of our time.
Healed anybody yet Hv?
Hv<<<ML
for someone to find healing, full spectrum EM energy is necessary. this means that All the alkaline minerals must react against All the acids present, water and oil soluble, so it's no wonder that a single alkaline mineral ( sodium ) cannot convey that, and this is exactly the opposite from what's been advised on acid/alkaline balance principle forum ( ask Moreless ).
ROTFLMAO!!!!! You mean the same person who claims that sunlight is acidic? Or that ammonia has isotopes? Or that muscles burn protein instead of glucose? Or that there are subatomic minerals? Or that claims that acidity in the body turns the body in to a puddle of goo? And there were his funny bogus claims about "funny protein" such as this one:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1486171#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1486724
Here is some more of his funny science:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1491724#i
The same person who hid the adverse events people posted on his forum after following his advice? His claims about how rust is formed were quite funny as well. Luckily they posted in other forums so people would know how dangerous the protocol was even if he did hide the posts on his forum or reworded them:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1488325
Or this one:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1495260
And of course other people were also exposing his pseudoscience:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1410891
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=907696
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=904688#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=884770#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=882147#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=932918#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=930542#i
There are so many more examples of ML's discredited bogus claims here on CZ. My all time favorite though is how he went on and on over how nitrites, which should have been nitrates, produced toxicity by the production of methemoglobin. I found the same article he got his information from and the part he left out was that alkalinity promoted the formation of nitrates that poison the body through methemoglobin production!!! Here are some of the posts on the subject:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1486784#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1449661#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1449657#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1795460#i
So he was actually promoting the production of methemoglobin, which he claimed was poisoning people. Or in other words telling people to poison themselves!!!
So keep up the good work Sundragon (Justin). You are doing a great job of discrediting your master as usual!!!
And drinking baking soda can lead to a state of alkalosis, which is also very dangerous.
what a BS! state of alkalosis is extremely rare, on the other hand state of acidosis is a disease of our time.
Maybe you should actually learn what acidosis is before making such ludicrous claims.
Hv, I believe God is using you to draw people into natural health, mainly because many people are use to putting their trust into medicine, doctors and science.
Even alternative medicines are science. The only people who ignore this fact are the people who make up their own science so they ignore real science since it will expose their fraud. And note that alternative medicines are still medicine and there are medical doctors that work with alternative medicines.
It is very scary for most to totally drop medicine and go into taking personal responsibility for themselves.
And people shoudl not do this if they do not know what they are doing. Furthermore, taking "personal responsibility" also means doing the research to verify whether the claims beign made are bogus or if there is some real science behind it. Otherwise they are not taking "personal responsbility", they are using blind faith in accepting unproven claims. If they get hurt doing this, such as the people in my other post that followed the alkalinizing protocol, then they only have themselves to blame. With the internet people have all sorts of real research available at their fingertips. If they choose to ignore the real science and go with unverfiable testimonials based on junk science then they are simnply asking for trouble. And again they will only have themselves to blame when they get hurt.
Even though you and I do not agree on how to achieve real health,
What is "real heatlh" to you? Following the whims of someone who tells you to drink a concoction that will promote more nitrate formation, which the same person claims is poison?!!! I guess we have real different definitions of "real health". I prefer to stick to alternatives that have been proven to work and are not based on made up, laughable, scientific principles.
I know you have a few tricks up you sleeve that help people feel better.
They are not necessarily tricks when you know the real science behind how the body works as well as the alternatives. Tricks are for those who have to make up their version of science to dupe people in to dangerous protocols.
My hope is that at some point people will realize that you do not have all the answers
I never claimed I did. In fact if you have read my posts I have outright said so. For example I make reference to this in this post:
http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1803305#i
But there are things that are well known, and not the pseudoscience that is passed around so much on the internet, such as the myth of "liver flushing" and the whole acid causes disease garbage. Alkalinity promotes the growth of a lot of pathogens such as Candida and H. pylori. This is why I rely on proven science and internet hype.
and will seek God's wisdom in healing. I am completely free of Multiple Sclerosis symptoms and have been for 3 years now after suffering since 2001. I know you don't accept my testimony as Science but a human being can observe and learn the laws of healing without being a doctor or trained herbalist.
I once had a more acidic (out of balance) skin mantel and because I was fair skinned and very acidic, I would sunburn very easily....now I do not.....I tan very easily.
First of all the skin is supposed to be acidic. This helps to keep the skin healthy and protects us from pathogens. I posted plenty of evidence on this back when the claim was being made by you know who that the skin was supposed to be alkaline.
And acidity and alkalinity have NOTHING to do with tanning. Tanning is pigmentation by melanin, which by the way requires acids.
One other bonus is that a more balanced skin does not attract mosquitoes as much. I use to be a mosquito magnet....no more. This is all due to not being out of pH balance any longer.
Again pH has nothing to do with this. Using the same argument how would you explain the ingestion of acidic B vitamins repelling mosquitoes?
As far as your disbelief in whether a person's body turns to goo at some point...I would like to add that I watched daily as my Father died of cancer because he "believed" in scientific medicine to save him.
Many of our tissues are naturally acidic or constantly exposed to acids. For example the skin, hair, intestines, stomach, mouth, etc. In all the decades I have been alive none of these parts of my body have turned to goo.
The fact is that we are not only made up of acids, it is acids that provide energy to our cells, it is acids that kill the pathogens that would harm us, it is acids that help us absorb nutrients........
I watched as the heels of his feet started to liquefy as the acids and lack of oxygen/circulation damaged them.
It is not acids that cause the tissue breakdown. The breakdown is from elevated proteolytic and lyosomal enzymes. Again this is why I do not get my information from the misinformation forums here on Curezone.
Nurses know that they must "float the feet" in an attempt to allow more oxygen to get to that part of the body to try and help this from happening. Where ever in the body is an accumulation of acids there is lack of oxygen, so the cells break down.
Again, not true. This is why I encourage people to learn how the body really works from credible sources.
A healthier person could lay in bed the same amount of time as a cancer ridden person and would not experience this as quickly....that is because they have enough alkaline minerals to balance the acids.
Still not true. A patient on TPN receives a lot of alkaline minerals. In fact the saline IVs that nearly every one gets is an alkaline mineral source. Yet the rate of tissue breakdown between immobile patients not being moved regularly is the same regardless of whether they have cancer or not.
Just like we know that our digestive system must have good bacteria and bad bacteria to process our foods well....we must have the positive/negative of alkaline/acids to keep our bodies healthy.
Yes, certain forums here on Curezone DO NOT promote balance, they promote alkalinity, which is a dangerous imbalance!!!
Keep up the good work of drawing in the medically minded people Hv. Perhaps in time their eyes will open even wider to how to have enough faith to take full responsibility for their health.
The people who come to my forum are not all "medically minded". They come to my forum because they like the fact that I rely on known facts of how the body works and common sense. Not ridiculous claims like acidity turns the tissues to puddles of goo or that consuming higher sugar (brix) foods is healthier.
Luckily many of the people who have come to my forum to learn have also taken the time to learn real research themselves so they can weed through the bogus hype and misinformation so prevalent on the internet, especially here on Curezone.
your post, in response to refreshed, is so full of misinformation I do not even have the time to address it...
:-\
grz-
If your idea of addressing it is anything like your last post then you should not waste your time. You did not get anything right in that post and only served to make yourself look totally foolish.
Throw those old textbooks away Hv... they are misleading you.
ROTFLMAO!!!! You clearly don't know half of what you think you know.
Stick with what you know Hv, not with what you do not.
Good advice, you should follow it Grz!!!
>>"You mean the same person who claims that sunlight is acidic?"<<
Look up the *electric sun*, or *ion storm* and potential hydrogen...
Look up the fact that sunlight is radiation, not hydrogen!!!
>>"Or that ammonia has isotopes?"<<
Become familiar with ammonia salts... among other things.
Ammonia salts are not isotopes. And here I thought you had some knowledge of science. I guess I was wrong about that.
>>"Or that muscles burn protein instead of glucose?"<<
You may need to brush up on glutamine as a glucose precursor, and its role in insulin response... among MANY other things.
You mean you did not know that proteins and amino acids are not the same thing? And why did you mention "glucose precursor" if the muscles are burning proteins? Better find and dust off those textbooks you discarded Grz because you clearly forgot a lot of BASIC science, anatomy and physiology!!!
>>"Or that there are subatomic minerals?"<<
http://pdglive.lbl.gov/listings1.brl?quickin=Y
Where in your link proves the claim? Why are you being so vague?
Knock yourself out... and again, stick with what you know... not with what you do not.
Again, advice you should follow. Here, let me help you out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subatomic_particle
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/mineral
Now note that minerals are not subatomic particles and subatomic particles are not minerals.
>>"Or that claims that acidity in the body turns the body in to a puddle of goo?"<<
Refreshed gave you one example... I could give you others.
The example was bogus since it is not acids that cause the decay as I pointed out.
>>"And there were his funny bogus claims about "funny protein" such as this one:"<<
NPN... non-protein nitrogen - funny protein... ammonia salts among others... a very real and increasing threat in the food supply that sent 10's of thousands in china into kidney failure, and killing many children... documented the year of the Olympics and posted on these boards by me.
NPN also includes things like amino acids and polypeptides as I have explained to you in the past. Actually I have addressed this claim a number of times such as these:
http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1485539#i
http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1486171#i
http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1491816#i
http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1491140#i
http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1491724#i
The fact is that we need many NPNs to not only exist but to survive. So to simply claim that NPN is toxic or dangerous is as stupid as claiming that gas will kill us because carbon monoxide will while ignoring that we need oxygen to exist and survive!!!
>>"The same person who hid the adverse events people posted on his forum after following his advice?"<<
I do not know about that - that is somewhat of a false accusation in my opinion. I do remember that every single person who had issues of one sort or the other with the *protocol* were doing it incorrectly and were not changing their diets...
I addressed the "blame the victim" game as well:
http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1491151#i
one, I specifically remember, still went to fast food joints, ate junk food, drank sodas, etc. and *expected* the protocol to help cure her of her illnesses and make up for her very poor dietary and lifestyle choices... it does not work that way.
>>"My all time favorite though is how he went on and on over how nitrites, which should have been nitrates, produced toxicity by the production of methemoglobin."<<
http://www.haz-map.com/methem.html
Again, stick with what you know Hv. Not everything is as it seems, or as you *think* it is.
grz-
Grz, get a clue!!!! That was the same website that Moreless based his claim on. So why did he leave out that important fact?!!!
I used to have some respect for you because you seemed rational and seemed to base most of what you said on real science. Now it seems like you just parrot the same cult claims that the rest of the cult does with no regards for the facts. What a shame!!!
Ah yes another interesting thread on the pseudo-science of Alkalinity.Good fun laughing at the cult of less than more.LOL.
Yea, that is for sure!!! Notice how quiet they got though once all their pseudoscientific garbage was exposed as fraudulent?
That is the problem with making up facts. There is always someone out there that will expose the fraud of the claims. For example, the claim that sunlight is acidic. First of all sunlight is composed of radiation particles, not hydrogen atoms. And even it did contain hydrogen this would not make it acidic. I had to correct ML on this a long time ago when he claimed the more hydrogen something has the more acidic it is, LOL!!!! So I asked him to explain how hydrogen chloride (HCl), which contains one hydrogen atom could be acidic while ammonium hydroxide (NH4OH), which contains 5 hydrogen atoms is very basic. So his hydrogen/acid hypothesis was thrown out the window. Then I pointed out to him that oil is loaded with hydrogen, so according to his hypothesis drinking something like olive oil should turn our bodies in to puddles of goo. Instead of admitting he was wrong though he simply changed his wording to "hydrogen potential".
Then there was the made up claim of ammonia having isotopes. The only way this can occur is if the real definition of "isotope" is changed. To explain this let's start by looking at what the actual definition of isotope is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotope
"Isotopes are variants of ATOMS of a particular chemical element, which have differing numbers of neutrons"
Now it was implied that ammonia salts were an example of isotopes in this post:
http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1808050#i
Why is this claims totally bogus? Simple, because both ammonia and ammonia salts are compounds, not individual atoms. And there is no such thing as isotopes of compounds, only atoms. Therefore, as stated before the only to make the claim of ammonia isotopes true would be to change the real definition of isotopes.
So they can sit here on Curezone all day long and make up their pseudoscience and there will be people like me exposing their false claims.
What really gets me is that they are able to dupe people who otherwise seem rational and intelligent in to this bogus cult science. Maybe inability to think rationally and to distinguish between reality and fantasy is a side effect of their protocol!!!
It is absolutely amazing then that I have avoided wheel chairs and\or knee replacements, *cured* all of my ails, never get sunburns, bug bites, etc. following the very simple, alkaline/acid balancing principles. If I get a chance to get over to the science fiction section of the bookstore I will check it out. I wonder how many scientific defintions this author will change as well to fit his needs? The author's name is not Moreless is it? |
Yea, that is for sure!!! Notice how quiet they got though once all their pseudoscientific garbage was exposed as fraudulent?
yeah, right. some of us here actually have real jobs other then selling people crap over the Internet, and this is exactly what your problem with ML is, because he never tried to sell anything to anybody but yet healed so many, so he's bad for the business.
FYI bozo, I am not JustinL but I highly respect his opinion though, and you are not James who you claim to be because I see right through you.
so what, you smothered the whole CZ yet another time into submission, so you're the winner. good for you.
btw, have you been molested as a child?
Why wouldn't sunlight be acidic or acidifying?
Check first the definition of a Lewis acid.
Then Photoelectric effect and Vitamin D production from the sun.
Then if the sun helps produce vitamin D, a Lewis acid, then the sun is acidifying.
QED
WIEL
Twisting wording IS NOT going to help your case. What Moreless CLEARLY stated was that sunlight itself was acidic, which is completely false as so many of his other claims have also been proven to be. Show us proof that the photons of sunlight has an acidic pH. When you cannot do this everyone here will know that this is just another made up scientific claim.
While you are trying hard to back the sunlight is acidic bogus claim why don't you also try to explain to everyone here how the "photoelectric effect" backs your claim. Photoelectic effect involves the release of electrons from certain substances when exposed to light. So are you really implying now that electrons have a pH?
Just like the statement about Lewis acid, which is electron pair receptor. And how does this back the bogus claim that sunlight has an acidic pH?
I would also like to see your proof that vitamin D is a Lewis acid as you state.