Where's the pain? The image below shows where liver pain can be:
This one shows where liver pain can be (noted as "gallbladder" on this pix, even tho you don't have one), as well as other issues:
You know you have a fatty liver [edit...full of all kinds of debris and liver flukes] (and that more than likely your liver us so engorged with liver flukes by now it bulging and deformed), so if the pain you're experiencing is anywhere near the vicinity of the liver/gallbladder pain areas, then do a liver flush already!!! And continue flushing every week...until the amount of debris seen coming out is consistently less than the flushes before.
Your last flush (around a year ago?), ended up with you expelling liver debris for DAYS. That indicated that your liver was massively/horrendously clogged & congested (as did the fact you had to have your gallbladder whacked out during 'benzo hell'). Whether or not this pain is emanating from the liver areas, you need to flush your liver consistently!
Your liver (primarily, along with the kidneys) is responsible for converting sunlight to Vitamin D. Want more Vitamin D? Make SURE your liver is decongested and isn't having the blood sucked out of it (and hole bored into it) by liver flukes.
You should be having daily 'tongue bitters' to keep the bile flowing. The Liver/GB tincture is perfect for that - 5-10 drops 5x daily. A two oz bottle will last a couple of months.
Get yourself a couple CE's brewed up for 'the day after' and start flushing asap..that's the best advice I can give you.
Let me know if the pain is happening somewhere else, and we'll see if we can figger out what else is happening. Whatever it is, it's likely to have something to do with your liver.
Blessings,
Uny
<<>>>((( I wanted too but was trying to juice fast for a couple of days and was gonna do one Sunday)))))(((thought that was the best way ))) <<< And continue flushing every week...until the amount of debris seen coming out is consistently less than the flushes before.>>>
<<>>(((( yep I know ))))) <<>>(((Which I regret)))) <<< Whether or not this pain is emanating from the liver areas, you need to flush your liver consistently!>>> ((yep and I have no problem with that but when I want or need to do it I have never really followed through with the prep for it as in 5 day liver cleanse ,mini flush, eating raw and juicing prep .the coffee enemas and castor oil packs yes I have done ..do you think that would be enough ?))) I think that if you haven't done absolutely everything for prepping that there's a very good likelihood it might be quite awhile before you end up 'getting 'er done' perfectly...the CE's and COPs are more than most people do. The last time you flushed it was like putting a crack in a damn - the 'liver gross' just poured out and you had no trouble at all. And now it's even more "full up' in there. I think you're ready to flush every week, whenever you can work it into your schedule.
<<>>(((( ok I get that but what about me taking the IF#2 and it sucking the D I already have built up in my body out ? after the 2nd dose is when the pain came back on me and a twinge of anxiety ..I havent had that pain since when I started taking it nor did my back bother me ..does that mean I am just gonna have to live with it until I get my body in balance to absorb/make the D on my own ??? yes I know I have fatty liver and all but what about why I wasnt hurting at all with it until the d gets sucked outta my system ? something about that doesnt make sense..if it was just my liver wouldnt it be causing me pain regardless every day? or is it just the D keeping down the inflammation/symptoms ?? also noticed the bronchitis symptoms coming back ..its like inflammation overload !!.but my d level is not ridiculously low either ..I pity the ones who are an 8 level .I cannot imagine how much pain they are in .I know my body is talking to me here ..it got my full attention last night too ))) You (and tons of other people around here) are making WAY too much out of this IF#2 thing and the "sucking out". First of all, bentonite & charcoal do not 'suck out' natural vitamins, minerals or nutrients. Secondly, people with liver compromise always have allergies and 'food reactions' (and are going to continue to have them until they get their livers back online). Thirdly, your adrenals were majorly overworked by the benzo withdrawal, and stressed adrenals also equals anxiety and food reactions. And finally...when we have Symptom L, we know that ABCDEFGHIJ&K had to happen in our body before Symptom L appeared, and we rarely felt or sensed ABCDEFGHIJ&K, nor do we know what they are. Basically, when your liver is messed up, your whole body (and all it's reactions) are messed up - neither you, I , nor anybody else knows exactly what is causing what with all those variables we cannot see or sense. But to imagine that 2/17 of a teaspoon of charcoal & clay (2x) wiped out a storehouse of unnatural Vitamin D is a HUGE "stretch". It could easily be something as simple as the fiber pressing on a colon reflex point - or it could have been something that was going to happen anyway. If you've got inflammation, then Echinacea is great and so is Ashwagandha...or if you're sure the unnatural Vitamin D did something that prevented you from being in pain and 'like this', then for heavens sakes go ahead and take a few until you can get to the root of the problem. I don't recommend them, but heck-fire gal, you're sounding 'crazy miserable'...and that's got to be doing you more harm than a few capsules of 'whatever' (it's not like it's fluoride or arsenic...or Valium).
<<>> ((I do have a bottle of digestive bitters but not your kind ..I can take that then for now ))) Take whatever you've got - bitters are bitter and they work; they don't have to be "mine".
<<>> ( OK will do ) I have some ready now too ..but I messed up this morning ...I said heck with all this and ate one of my daughters brownies she had made. that was my breakfast along with a glass of milk ..I was just so frustrated and at the moment I really didnt even care what I ate .I did get outta pain last night by taking one of hubbys multi-vitamins that had D in it ..I was desperate just so you know ..but it cleared it right up for me for now . Sometimes y'all have to bear with me (it's not just you that does this)...let's see, you had 2 doses of IF#2 today and that like to killed ya, but a toxic brownie with caffeine, white sugar/flour and non-organic milk full of puss, antibiotics & hormones couldn't have had anything to do with it all? ALL input has to be considered to determine 'what is doing what'. And who knows how much "belief" has to do with it all...you seem to be scared to death of IF#2, but not at all afraid of supplements (and seem to be thinking you "know" they work). So which one is gonna give you a reaction? The one you're afraid of, worried about, stressing over...and just WAITING for something to happen. (I'm not being critical, and I know that you may be correct in your assumption...but ALL things have to be considered to reach the correct conclusion). :::Uny pulling out hair a bit::: Today, virtually every post I've read (that I need to respond to) is from folks making all kinds of crazy assumptions (so I'm getting a bit frazzled).
<<>> (( the pain is in the middle of my back and spreads around to the right side of my back in the middle . its a burning/achey highly uncomfortable muscle/bone??? pain that wont go away once it gets started or at least for a while )) although prior (when it was bad before) I have woke up with it and as the day goes on as I am moving around it gets better ))) Right side pain isn't usually liver, but that doesn't mean the liver or colon isn't pressing on various reflex points or nerves that are causing it. You need to focus on consistent liver flushing (something you've needed to do every since I 'met' you). It's time to get started and stay consistent (and stay focused).
(((my original plan (cause of work schedule) was to eat raw thursday and friday and throw in some juices and mini flushes ,castor oil packs and CE's and juice fast saturday ,take the IF's #1 and #2 and then flush on Saturday night and have Sunday to do CE's after the flush and in case I was feeling like crap .. now that is all messed up for me and I think I will have to start next thursday now cause I done messed up with my eating and juicing schedule . I have to have a day to recover before work and deal with after affects of the flush ..is there anyone out there doing flushes while working ? if there is I would like to know about how they do it .. Just do a flush as soon as you can work it into your schedule. There's no reason at all you still can't 'do your best' and still flush Saturday night....nothing is "all messed up"! Do you have any 'calming herb tinctures' there that you can take? If so, guzzle some :) I know I'm going to be taking some Kava REAL soon! lol
I appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule to help me here .I am trying Uny I really am ..seems everytime I try I get knocked down ..not gonna give up though ..I appreciate your appreciation - thanks. And I know you're trying (good for you!) - yet I also can see you're VERY frazzled and a bit 'hung up & stressed' over the details. Your reactions will stop happening in direct relation to how consistent you are with your liver flushing :)
:) Hugs Hugs rightbackatcha! Uny
Anne
I think that if you haven't done absolutely everything for prepping that there's a very good likelihood it might be quite awhile before you end up 'getting 'er done' perfectly...the CE's and COPs are more than most people do. The last time you flushed it was like putting a crack in a damn - the 'liver gross' just poured out and you had no trouble at all. And now it's even more "full up' in there. I think you're ready to flush every week, whenever you can work it into your schedule. I am going to Uny..just wanna make sure that something happens productively .. so I am gonna incorporate juicing in next week and IF #1 and #2 and if I have too will take some vit d if things get really bad for me and do my best to get through till the flush .
You (and tons of other people around here) are making WAY too much out of this IF#2 thing and the "sucking out". First of all, bentonite & charcoal do not 'suck out' natural vitamins, minerals or nutrients. I know Uny Secondly, people with liver compromise always have allergies and 'food reactions' (and are going to continue to have them until they get their livers back online). Thirdly, your adrenals were majorly overworked by the benzo withdrawal, and stressed adrenals also equals anxiety and food reactions. And finally...when we have Symptom L, we know that ABCDEFGHIJ&K had to happen in our body before Symptom L appeared, and we rarely felt or sensed ABCDEFGHIJ&K, nor do we know what they are. Basically, when your liver is messed up, your whole body (and all it's reactions) are messed up - neither you, I , nor anybody else knows exactly what is causing what with all those variables we cannot see or sense. But to imagine that 2/17 of a teaspoon of charcoal & clay (2x) wiped out a storehouse of unnatural Vitamin D is a HUGE "stretch". I have been taking it more than just that day though ..have been taking it for several days building up too whatever I can tolerate sorry if I wasnt clear on that as well as juicing some but nothing thorough as of yet which I know I need to do .. It could easily be something as simple as the fiber pressing on a colon reflex point - or it could have been something that was going to happen anyway. If you've got inflammation, then Echinacea is great and so is Ashwagandha. have been taking the echinacea but dont have any Ashwagandha as of yet ..where is the best place to get it ? MR or PB..or if you're sure the unnatural Vitamin D did something that prevented you from being in pain and 'like this', then for heavens sakes go ahead and take a few until you can get to the root of the problem. I don't recommend them, but heck-fire gal, you're sounding 'crazy miserable'...and that's got to be doing you more harm than a few capsules of 'whatever' (it's not like it's fluoride or arsenic...or Valium). I agree Uny and yes the D did calm down inflammation in my body and actually made me feel really good cept for my stomach .. :( otherwise I wouldnt have taken as long as I did .. it is good for inflammation and whole host of other problems ..but I agree that I need to get my liver/body to a place that I dont have to take such things ..and I am trying to do that now ..
Sometimes y'all have to bear with me (it's not just you that does this)...let's see, you had 2 doses of IF#2 today and that like to killed ya, but a toxic brownie with caffeine, white sugar/flour and non-organic milk full of puss, antibiotics & hormones couldn't have had anything to do with it all? yep that was this morning ..yesterday was all juice and IF#1 and #2 until the pain started and I was just miserable so I called it quits ..took a vitamin and ate me some broccolli and a potato ..woke up. this morning and figured what the hell and frustrated is when I ate the brownie and drank a glass of milk .. hey at least I am honest .ALL input has to be considered to determine 'what is doing what'. And who knows how much "belief" has to do with it all...you seem to be scared to death of IF#2, but not at all afraid of supplements (and seem to be thinking you "know" they work). I took the IF's before when I done the 10 day juice fast with no problem that I can remember ..so not sure what to think of the situation right now .. So which one is gonna give you a reaction? The one you're afraid of, worried about, stressing over...and just WAITING for something to happen. (I'm not being critical, and I know that you may be correct in your assumption...but ALL things have to be considered to reach the correct conclusion). :::Uny pulling out hair a bit::: I am sorry :( Today, virtually every post I've read (that I need to respond to) is from folks making all kinds of crazy assumptions (so I'm getting a bit frazzled). I bet you are ..really I do ..but the symptoms are real and sometimes scary and I know you know that and I know its hard to explain what is /could be going on when this happens as there as so many variables ..and I go by well if I take X and it causes Y and Z then I assume that X is causing this or has something to do with it ..not saying it is not causing a healing reaction or something good in the end but thats its just so painful or hard to go through that some people (like me)just cant take it and end up quitting because of it or backing off when they should go faster .. I am not a pleasant person to be around when I am that kind of pain either ..shoot noone would be ..its miserable .. I was taking the IF's and working on thursday mixing 1 full tsp with open capsule of the IF#1 in juice ..it actually made my colon hurt for a while and then I had horrible gas and diarreah for a bit then it cleared up(had to make many potty trips while at work though and people were starting to wonder bout me LOL ) . with natural healing we dont know what to expect as everyone is at a different level ..it can be very hard to deal with at times too . I understand that it is a process though and its not gonna be easy ..
Right side pain isn't usually liver, but that doesn't mean the liver or colon isn't pressing on various reflex points or nerves that are causing it. You need to focus on consistent liver flushing (something you've needed to do every since I 'met' you). It's time to get started and stay consistent (and stay focused). yes ma'am
Just do a flush as soon as you can work it into your schedule. There's no reason at all you still can't 'do your best' and still flush Saturday night....nothing is "all messed up"! Do you have any 'calming herb tinctures' there that you can take? If so, guzzle some :) I know I'm going to be taking some Kava REAL soon! lol LOL I bet you will !!! I have bach flower remedies Feel 5ive for emergency stress relief for back up just in case and it works but I have not been having any anxiety still so I am good with that .. I still have the sample bottle of nerve tonic too ..that stuff is potent ..it messes me up LOLOLOL ... I cant even talk right when I take that stuff ..I am like ddduuuuurrrrrr ! LOLOL ..but hey it works ..
friday I took a whole tsp of Milk thistle in a blueberry smoothie and it made me feel weird and almost weak for a bit but I didnt stress it and I was fine within about an hour .. last year bout this time that would not have happened and you know it ! I couldnt have taken that much LOL...heck I couldnt even take 1/4 of a tsp without a reaction . I am in a way better state of mind now Uny I really am ...
.I appreciate your appreciation - thanks. And I know you're trying (good for you!) - yet I also can see you're VERY frazzled and a bit 'hung up & stressed' over the details. yes I am!!! or at least the pain situation ... Your reactions will stop happening in direct relation to how consistent you are with your liver flushing :) I know it will thanks so much :) NOW go take your kava woman!!!!
Anne