Fluoridated water for infants ? 
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From this article, it appears the ADA workshop in 1994 resulted in a recommendation of zero fluoride for infants aged 0 - 6 months.
http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/infant/#ada
Yet, I seem to recall seeing in the store in the past couple years, a gallon of water that was fluoridated and seemed to be intended for infant formula !!
Babies suck about 4 ounces of milk, every three hours for a daily total of about a liter. so if ya used that store-bought F water in the formula, the babe would get 1 milligram of F per day, or 30 milligrams a month. If the babe weighs 10 kg after the first month, then their little body would contain 3 ppm of fluoride by weight, distributed in the bones, pineal, etc. assuming no elimination.
Are babies kidneys developed enough to eliminate fluoride ? I doubt it, I bet if one looks they can find that the female body has a mechanism in it that ensures breast milk is all but fluoride-free, even though the woman's serum F level may be higher - i.e., mother nature has in place a way to keep the F out of the milk.
Any thoughts on putting F into infants formula ?
My understanding is there is no recognized need for fluoride, and that it is a well-known neurotoxin and enzyme poison.
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This is a reply to # 1,786,537I respect your opinion, but I must say that I agree with your post, except possibly this:
" the female body has a mechanism in it that ensures breast milk is all but fluoride-free, even though the woman's serum F level may be higher "
It's my understanding that fluoride IS found in breast milk~ at a level relative to the amount of F exposure.
Oh, wait~ you said "all but". We might just agree! :)- Re: Fluoridated water for infants ? fulcanelli
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This is a reply to # 1,786,548I don't know about any of that, but the link I pasted contained the following; although I have not pulled the references and read them:
"These findings show that plasma fluoride is poorly transferred to breast milk and infants thus receive almost no fluoride during breast feeding... The existence of a physiological plasma-milk barrier against fluoride suggests that the newborn is actively protected from this halogen. Hence the recommendation made in several countries to give breast-fed infants fluoride supplementation should be reconsidered."
SOURCE: Ekstrand J, et al. (1981). No evidence of transfer of fluoride from plasma to breast milk. British Medical Journal 283: 761-2."
"[I]nfant formulas reconstituted with higher fluoride water can provide 100 to 200 times more fluoride than breastmilk, or cows milk."
SOURCE: Levy SM, Guha-Chowdhury N. (1999). Total fluoride intake and implications for dietary fluoride supplementation. Journal of Public Health Dentistry 59: 211-23.
"[I]n an area where the fluoride concentration is one part per million the daily fluoride dose in the newborn infant will be about 800-1000 ug/day (micrograms/day) when a milk substitute is used, whereas the fluoride dose for breast-fed children in the same area will not exceed 10 ug/day."
SOURCE: Ekstrand J, et al. (1981). No evidence of transfer of fluoride from plasma to breast milk. British Medical Journal 283: 761-2.
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- Re: Fluoridated water for infants ? wombat
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,786,564any evidence of fluoride transfer through the ether?
I don't think that the guvment will ever completely reverse on fluoride, do you?
Here's a more recent study:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2612944/
"The plasma fluoride concentration displays an increase along with fluoride intake. This increase is, however, attenuated due to distribution to the interstitial and intracellular fluid uptake by calcified tissues and renal excretion."...
..."Theoretically, a limited transfer of fluoride from plasma to breast milk should occur.21 The mechanism(s) responsible for the selective transfer of fluoride into breast tissue is obscure.21 It is thought that a physiological plasma-milk barrier functions against to fluoride.1,2,6 Despite high doses of supplementary fluoride administered to the mother, the child receives a maximum dose of only 0.2% of the mother’s fluoride intake.1,2 The results obtained in our study confirmed these conclusions. It should, however, be noted that the fluoride content transferred through breast milk is less than those present in cow’s milk and in infant formulas, utilized as routine substitutes for breast milk. Rahul et al3 found that fluoride concentrations of various commercially available infant milk formulations ranged from 1.95 ppm to 7.45 ppm and fluoride content of cow’s milk samples was 0.12 ppm; values exceeding those of breast milk."- Re: Fluoridated water for infants ? fulcanelli
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This is a reply to # 1,786,569The MD who wrote the article in the link at the end made some alarming statement in the quote I quoted, below. If true, one can only imagine the damage resulting from using baby formula if fluoridated H2O is used without regard to its F content. Imagine the tens of millions of people affected. Do ya think people are more smart and healthy now than before fluoridation, or less smart and healthy ?
"It seems to me that we must be aware of how fluoride does its damage. It is an enzyme poison. Enzymes are complex protein compounds that vastly speed up biological chemical reactions while themselves remaining unchanged. As we speak, there occurs in all of us a vast multitude of these reactions to maintain life and produce the energy to sustain it. The chains of amino acids that make up these complex proteins are linked by simple compounds called amides; and it is with these that fluorine molecules react, splitting and distorting them, thus damaging the enzymes and their activity. Let it be said at once, this effect can occur at extraordinary low concentrations; even lower than the one part per million which is the dilution proposed for fluoridation in our water supply."
http://www.rense.com/general57/FLUR.HTM
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This is a reply to # 1,786,571
I very much appreciate your opinion and the time you invested into this message and i hope that it reaches many:)
Less smart and healthy, definitely.... due to a lot of factors. Fluoride's a biggie.
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This is a reply to # 1,786,572I dn't really have a message I guess, was just curious for what other folks' take on it is, from the question in the first posting.
It seems to me it would be unlawful to put known toxins into municipal water supplies, yet it happens in a lot of places every day. I guess it follows naturally that if the masses become poisoned, that they won't be able to think as well or enjoy as good of health as their ancestors who didn't ingest so much fluoride.
Recently I saw where some agency lowered the F that is to be added to waters, because something like 40% of the kids have dental fluorosis. We're talking millions of kids here.
I read where a lot of the fluoride that americans ingest comes from china but dn't know how true that is.
Its kind of sinister, the communists supplying the poison and the americans freely and voluntarily dumping it into the water their neighbors and countrymen and their wives and kids ingest.
Cui bono ?
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This is a reply to # 1,786,537Our water supply is now fluoridated in QLD, Australia. A few days ago I gave my 7 year old son just one drop of Lugols Iodine in a glass of water. The following day he complained that he felt 'funny'. When I asked him to elaborate, he explained that he felt 'fuzzy in the head'. He's never talked like this before. He and most of the other kids at his school drink from taps throughout the day and I wonder if the Iodine displaced some fluoride which led to his mental 'fuzziness'/vagueness. It's a sad situation if this is the case, but suggests to me that he might respond very well to iodine. I'm going to review the Iodine forums here to find a safe dose for him. He has asperger syndrome so I'd like to do whatever it takes to help him with concentration and gaining mental clarity. This post might not be relevant here ... sorry if it isn't.
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