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This is a reply to # 1,753,722Ever notice how the vegan\vegetarians run around seeking help for this or that, in many cases for years, while those like me who consume high quality foods including those sourced from animal products in moderation have resolved a lifetime of health issues?
Stick around long enough, pay attention to it... you will notice.
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This is a reply to # 1,753,727nothing wrong with juice fasting from time to time as long as you keep the sugars in check... especially if you have metabolic Sugar regulation issues.
In that case, you must increase the healthy fats in your juices to help buffer the sugars.
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This is a reply to # 1,753,726Very good advice Grz, When these health issues are resolved, they do not return, and then there is no need for fasts, or restrictive diets, or any other remedy, for problems that are caused from a lack of adequate nutrition.
spud - Re: Interesting article that releate... MrCuddly
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This is a reply to # 1,753,726Most vegetarians eat unbalanced diets just like most meat eaters. Of course those with a higher quality diet will have fewer health issues - but that has nothing to do with being vegetarian or not.
Personally I was eating too much red meat (couldn't stand seafood, chicken or turkey) and developed hypertension, high cholesterol, poor liver function and eventually had a small stroke.
Instead of taking 5 different medicines the doctor said I'd need to be on for the rest of my life, I cut out meat completely. That was in addition to stopping alcohol, smoking, exercising more, and having a higher quality diet in general.
But I stopped the meds after the first week, and my health completely turned around. My doctor said what happened was almost miraculous after the next checkup. Of course his enthusiasm quickly faded when I told him I ditched the meds and went natural.
I've been vegetarian for the last 5 years and in my mid 50's I've never been healthier.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,839,628Instead of taking 5 different medicines the doctor said I'd need to be on for the rest of my life, I cut out meat completely. That was in addition to stopping alcohol, smoking, exercising more, and having a higher quality diet in general.
Poor analysis, as far as proving red meat is what caused your illness. This sounds like a rat study I read about recently to prove that a vegan diet was superior and it was in comparison to the other study group which consisted of a junk food diet loaded with refined sugars and wheats and denatured foods. I find striking how many fail to see these inconsistencies in these studies.
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- Re: Interesting article that releate... chrisb1
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This is a reply to # 1,753,722http://www.vegsource.com/talk/raw/messages/20067.html
This is a great article which explains why juice fasting is a better way to detoxify than water fasting.
Zafar
JUICE-FASTING:
The powerful healing therapy that no-one ever uses.
Dr. Richard Schulze , N.D., M.H.
"When you don't feel well, stop eating and go to juices."
SCHULZE: The first thing an animal does when it is sick is stop eating. They fast themselves.
Likewise, the first thing we need to do when we don't feel well is: stop food........................
Water-only fasting is far more efficacious than Juice feasting and so say all Natural Hygienic Doctors from the inception of this health-movement.
Juice feasting is beneficial of that there is no doubt but in contrast, water-only fasting greatly accelerates the detox and healing processes over and above that of the former feasting..................
http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020127shelton.III/020127.toc.htm
Chrisb1.- Re: Interesting article that releate... Mira528
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This is a reply to # 1,840,019Yes, I agree that Water Fasting will cause faster detox than juice fasting.
But most of us are so toxic that too rapid of a detox could cause illness or even kill us.
I really like Arnold Ehret's books in this regard. He explains how important it is to be extremely careful when fasting and how the process varies greatly from one person to another.
For myself, I've come to the conclusion that "slow and steady wins the race". So I fruit-juice fast and when I start to detox too fast, I slow it down by eating some fruit or a spicy tomato drink. I also sometimes add a bit of garlic and olive oil to my orange juice.
And the importance of keeping things moving "down and out" cannot be over-stressed.
Overall, this approach is 100% better than the SAD.- Re: Interesting article that releate... chrisb1
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This is a reply to # 1,840,035Yes, but animals in the wild do not have juice extractors.
And to say that............
"But most of us are so toxic that too rapid of a detox could cause illness or even kill us".
Is complete fiction and utter nonsense.
People have been known to die from starvation of course but then no one would advocate that mode of inanition.
Respectfully yours.
Chrisb1.
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This is a reply to # 1,840,048Hey Chris,
I do respect your opinion, however ... I'm not talking about animals in the wild, I'm talking about humans and most of us eat processed foods, many use pharmaceuticals, many smoke, drink coffee (yes, even Curezone folks), dye hair, get perms, breathe polluted air, use shaving cream, brush teeth with fluoridated toothpaste, wear false nails, many have metals in their teeth, have been vaccinated, some even get botox ... just to name a few of the not-so-lovely things that are stored in our bodies ... and I haven't even mentioned the parasite die-off.
It's ok to disagree, we're all different and all react differently to fasting.
There are well-respected authors (Ehret is one of them) who would agree with my statement, which you dismiss as nonsense. But then ... the world is flat, right? And the Emperor is wearing clothes (or is he?)
You could be right. I could be right. But what I don't get is why anyone thinks they have a quota on truth. What we have is belief systems. I'm not attacking yours, just offering a different opinion. Every single one of us has our own unique path to follow in life. That doesn't make one path better or worse than another, just different.
- Re: Interesting article that releate... Mira528
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This is a reply to # 1,840,076PS Please don't shoot the messenger.
As I've said to other CZ folks who've tried to convert me to their point of view:
When you're 108 and healthy, then I'll really listen to what you have to say about health and longevity!- Re: Interesting article that releate... chrisb1
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This is a reply to # 1,840,079Ha Ha..I had no intention of shooting the messenger.
I was not trying to convert you to my point of view and BTW it is not just my point of view, but that of many qualified health professionals within the field of Natural Hygiene.
However, I had to intervene and say something re' your comment that the water-fast can kill, which is simply just not true.
Perhaps you would like to read this from the most qualified and experienced water-fasting supervisor concerning death in the fast..........
http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020127shelton.III/020127.ch19.htm
"When you're 108 and healthy, then I'll really listen to what you have to say about health and longevity"!
If your still alive by then I will. Only another 50 years to go then.
Respectfully Yours
Chrisb1.
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This is a reply to # 1,840,076The problem with "Professor" Ehret I'm afraid is that all he could fathom in disease was the "mucusless diet healing system" but we all should know that the body manufactures mucus for a reason: as a protective measure against infecting agents such as fungi bacteria and viruses.
Mucus also aids in the protection of the lungs by trapping foreign particles that enter it.
Mr Ehret was and is frowned upon by Natural Hygienists Worldwide and where they have commented on the dubious origin of his credentials.
Chrisb1.- Re: Interesting article that releate... Mira528
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This is a reply to # 1,840,096Many frown on and discredit the ideas of anyone who disputes the "sacred ground" of their ideologies. Very often, the one person who has their own viewpoint that differs from the majority has much of value to say.
I'm sure that there were many good men in Natural Hygiene. It's just not something that I feel drawn to.
When I look up into the night sky, I see a multitude of stars and constellations (on a clear night, that is).
Sometimes I have the thought that we were each born under our own star. This leads us to each have our own light to shine upon the world.
We don't have to try to put out each other's lights in order to shine!
- Re: Interesting article that releate... Mira528
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This is a reply to # 1,840,096Sure, I'll be waiting!
I'm not giving away my age but I've got quite a few years to go too.
Wouldn't it be cool if we could track the health records and the age of death for all the "experts" on Curezone and in the rest of the Alternative health field.
Maybe we can all meet some day, 50 or so years from now, on a tropical island and have a pineapple and coconut (or plain water if you prefer) party!
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