Hi there...what was odd was that it was due to a REAL craving for Ginger that made me sit up and question what my body was trying to tell me!! Normally i cook with it..But i was guzzling down Ginger beer as if i was a swash buckling pirate who had been out all day in the midday sun!! It was an exotic regular request on a shopping list for a while before making ginger root tea with it..

I had a few symptoms at the time one, i believe now to be a chinese plum pit condition and related to stagnant liver chi ?!! That area is still very much a mystery to me...and i need to explore further.

All I could do at the time that was DIY to kick start the flow was to make home made carrot soups and spice it up big time with all the recommended spices combined..and sipped that for a week.. quite pleasent, a deep flavourfull curry indian soup with a chilli kick and tones of grated orange... this i did before the parasite and bowel cleanse.

As i understand i need to do these first..before the liver cleanse which is my main focus and goal if there has to be one, that and to be self sufficient and out of the drs room, with a newfound menu and map of a changed healthier lifestyle and be commited to it..


I actually felt really good and better than i have felt in a long long time just after the parasite and bowel cleanse..which was why i found the nudging and encroaching sleepyness, tenderness aching joints etc perplexing...

But having read the above link, thanks Tom ..it's making alot of sense and is actually a good sign that things are making progress...but in the same breath..if things do remain and/or get worse...well i will jump that fence if it arrives...but in short it's like things will temporarily feel worse before they get better again.

It's made me realise too to be more patient with the in between breaks of cleanses and also in the meantime to strengthen the other organs. And yes, this has made me all the more attentive to my body and the importance of listening and initiate stuff as and when it feels ok and ready..Getting in touch and in tune with my body is something new to me but it's like a compass and i can see how it can point to the next coordinate of the map..

The ginger thing is a good point in case and as i no longer am craving it..maybe its done its purpose at the dosage it was and time to pull up anchor on that one and leave it to the stir frys!

The inertia part about the body in the link also caught my interest......gosh theres so much to learn!

Thank you both for responding! I feel much more at ease now! Before then my forefinger was poised, just about to run down a list of symptoms related to some jungle borneo tick bite..if you know that feeling! LOL ! thank you!

I'd say that the tenderness and wind problem came about in the second week After bowel and parasite cleanse when i had returned to my usual healthier but heavier diet?

Thats why i thought the increasing wind and tenderness and bloating was not connected to the bowel programme itself.

Instead a possible symptom to a food allergy or inflammed irritable gut that the turmeric which is taken in high doses during the programme and an aniflammatory had been masking all the while. Without the turmeric i thought perhaps something else was being revealed..

Sure In the parasite and bowel programmes although you could take up to 6 laxative capsules, felt one was enough..and The programme for psyllium and the Bentonite is still pending..so it couldn't have been the pysllium for certain. I don't now how long the ongoing effects of the casara can last in the body..

I thought i was within the bounds of the text book recommended dose (1cm chunk/day)although i was not only drinking the water but enjoying the nubs of it at the bottom of the cup!? It's been a daily tea thats extended before the programme for a couple of months now.

Thanks for the link..all info helps..only discovered yesterday that a side effect of over dosing ginger causes the same symptoms tenderness, gas heart burn..!!

I will say that i feel more like my new self muscle aching in legs and joints much less,again less sleepy no longer tired after eating, tenderness gone and gas no where near or gerd as before...feel as though i've gotten over one hurdle..