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Hi Forumfolk,
Thank you for starting this forum and posting on this topic, I really appreciate it.
I have just made one today (Ionic Foot Bath), but it looks like nothing's happening when I turn it on, therefore I am not sure what to do..So I am posting to ask you folks in case someone here knows :-).
I am using the Schumacher floating battery charger from Walmart ($20.95). It's totally automatic it says, and is not manually switchable between 6V and 12V. Have I got the right unit?
I have the battery charger's clips going to 2 stainless steel butter knives, and the butter knives are resting in a white plastic dishtub which is about 10" deep.
How far apart should those knives be? I have moved them from 1/2" to 2" apart and all points in between, and they do not bubble at any time.
I have dissolved a heaping teaspoon of Celtic Sea Salt in the water which is in the dishtub.
The water in the dishtub is very warm, but not what I would call 'hot'.
This battery charger has 3 LED indicators:
1. Plugged in
2. Charging
3. Charge complete
Here's what happens:
When I plug the charger in, all 3 lights light up for a second, but then the "charging" and "charge complete" lights both go out, leaving the "connection" light on by itself. I think the charger thinks there's a problem with the connection, or thinks there is no battery attached to the clips.
Any idea what I may be doing wrong?
I hope someone can/will shed some light on this, thanks for your time, please reply to me, anyone who recognizes what's going on- I am posting this on the ion foot bath forum (A version of this post was also PM'ed to GodMadeusperfect- Love that name :-))
Thanks to everyone on this forum,
Ladylove :)
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ladylove,
I think here is the problem. This is from the Schumacher website:
http://www.schumacherproducts.com/faq/?id=0004Why doesn’t my automatic charger charge my battery?
An automatic charger is designed to power the transformer when you first plug it into a receptacle. The automatic charger needs to “see” at least 4 volts in the battery to power up the circuitry. This initializes the charge sequence. When a completely discharged battery, or one with less than 4 volts charge remaining, is attached to the charger, the charger never “sees” this battery and will not begin the charging cycle. It will also cancel out the Engine Start function. The yellow charging light will also not come on. The meter (where used) will remain in the default “100%” position.
In order to get past this mode, you can “jump start” the battery so to speak, by momentarily connecting another fully charged battery in parallel. This will allow the charger to “see” a higher initial voltage enabling it to begin the charging sequence.
NOTE: Batteries that remain lower than 4 volts state of charge are often defective or just worn out. It is always best (safer) to check the battery with a hydrometer or Schumacher tester before charging.So according to this, since the water has 0 voltage to start with, the charger does not see it.
hope this helps.
Sami
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..first Sami, please let me thank you thank you thank you for taking your valuable time to extend a hand and help me with this.
..I wondered about that, or if I should possibly place a load resistor across the charger output, but the problem is, not one of the folks who has built their own of these foot baths has ever mentioned having to do such a thing to their charger in order to get it to operate. Not even one, nowhere I have found (Of the very few places I could locate on the web). Plus batteries can have a bad habit of exploding, which I don't trust.
So I am reduced to asking those who *have* built a working footbath exactly what they are using.
I'll tell you what, what I would really love is for your Dad to get on here and talk about what he did to that power adapter to use it in the obviously-working footbath you all made. Is there any chance you could get him to do that? (Or to PM me, because he might not want to post it for various reasons..)
It's really funny, I can troubleshoot the harness of a car installed or out, find the trouble and correct it, or troubleshoot a broken computer system and fix the thing, but when it comes to this type of heavier power circuit stuff, I am a real wuss, lol.
Well, I think I have a couple of gelcells around here somewhere (Just moved here and don't have the endless supply of odds-and-ends one usually accumulates over years in the same place- Alas :)).
Sami, I really appreciate your effort, and I will try this as soon as I can dig up a rechargeable battery to try it with.
God Bless you, my Dear.
Stay well,
Ladylove :)
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,606,009There is no need to thank me. That is why we are all here, to share and learn and if we can help someone that would be the cherry on the top :)
I called my Dad, he said
"look, all the machines you see on the internet, where do you think they get their power....do you see any coming with a battery charger? They all use adaptors...."
So that was his short answer to my question about how to fix the battery.
Then he said, the role of the adaptor is to make sure only 12V electrical current comes into whatever it is plugged in. So he said , just separate the two coils, strip them, connect each to one stainless steel whatever you have and voila, you have the foot bath.
Our adaptor was 1 amp, but some of the machines he saw in the internet are 1.5 amp.
Hope this helps. Try it and see if you see the bubbles...
:)
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Ohmygosh, that thing is cool!!!
I used the Schumacher Model# SEM-1562A, $20.95 @ Walmart.
Got 2 flat Stainless Steel cheese graters @ the local grocery. (#3.99 ea)
The 2 graters came surrounded by plastic frames with handles at one end, so I let the frames work as spacers (This caused the grater plates to be a little less than 1/2" apart.).
Both grater frames had a plastic handle at the top, so I cut the handle off one with a hacksaw, left the handle of the other in place, then took a half-inch section out of each of the 2 frames (placing the bare sections far apart) so I could get the charger clips on, but so that the clips would be held far away from each other when in place and would not short.
Then I used 2 wire ties through the holes in the graters to fasten them together strongly and hold them stable.
Plugged in the charger and it took off working!
Now, this charger refused to turn on before with the 2 butter knives, so i don't know what happened there yet, but I have been fooling with this setup for at least 4 days now in various configurations, so if anyone else is trying this- Don't give up!!!
I thank you sincerely, GodMadeusperfect and Believenatural, because without your support and information I don't think it would have got going anytime soon. God Bless you both!
I gave it 42 minutes- And wow! What an awakening!
I will post that whole story in a separate thread here.
But first, I wanted to get the word out to you both- It worked!! :-)
Many Blessings,
Ladylove
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This is a reply to # 1,606,156..OK, the cheese graters were closer together than the butter knives, plus I had a better way to hold them stable.
Also, I needed more salt in the water. I wound up needing ~2 tablespoons, approximately (I just threw it in).
I'm using an 18 qt white plastic dish pan, $2.50 from Dollar General.
I am not using white garbage bags to line it (I'm the only one using it anyway.
So I think what was wrong before is that the water didn't have enough salt in it to act as an electrolyte, so the charger could not start up. I am now sure that had I as Believenatural suggested, put a battery in parallel across the charger output, it would probably have turned on, but I am not going to try it, now that the thing is running.
Interestingly, the more expensive Schumacher model
SC-600A still refuses to work in this circuit. I'll play around with it for a few days more though, before it goes back to Walmart- It *does* have a 6V switch-selectable option and if I can get it to work, I'd rather be able to use it for a hand bath, as well..
God Health to All of Us,
Ladylove :)
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This is a reply to # 1,606,143The graters are 1/2" apart? Do they lie flat, or do you have them vertical in the bath?
Photo possible? I can make one of these easily, but a photo of your working unit would be cool.
tx- The Ionic Foot Bath Graters.. ladylove
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Hi Cisco :-), nice to see you here!
The graters are positioned vertically, standing on their (bottom/lower) narrow ends. I have used tie wraps to hold the graters firmly in position in reference to each other.
The battery charger's clips are fastened to the upper narrow end of the grater array, which rises up above the water's surface. I have removed (with a hacksaw) short segments of the frame on opposite ends of the top, so the clips can get good purchase on the stainless steel graters, yet cannot short together.
I hold the grater array vertical with my submerged feet (the graters I am using are framed in plastic, therefore my feet are not touching metal at any time).
I have pics, but I am not sure how to post them and probably won't get to figure it out today..
When I have time I certainly will.
I hope this description is clear enough..
Stay well,
Ladylove :)
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This is a reply to # 1,608,850Hello! And thank you for this great description. Am pretty sure I get the 'picture'. I was wondering if it made much difference if the two 'plates' were positioned separately from each other, as in on opposite sides of the feet. Su current would pass between the two.
But it appears it does not make that kind of difference. I will purchase the graters that you describe as I was staring at them today, but held off. Thinking I could be smarter somehow... but methinks your design is spot on. So I will follow your lead.
Super. Thanks for all of this. Will post how it goes. It is to try and help my sweetie who has constant pain from nerve damage as a result of a not exactly 100% ankle surgery, and we are slowly figuring out how to reconnect her nerve damage. In the mean time, anything to help calm the pain would be the ticket.
mucho gracias
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..De nada Cisco :-),
I have found that the orientation and placement of the cheese grater array in reference to your feet makes a huge difference in the effect of the bath.
Up until now, I have had the graters facing flatside forward, held in position between my feet by clamping them with my feet.
Yesterday for the first time, I turned the grater array 90 degrees, so that it was parallel to my feet and between them. I held them in position with my hands since I didn't have anything else nearby.
The effect of the foot bath was markedly stronger this way.
I have also discovered that if I reverse the grater array (So that neg is toward the left foot for 5 min, then turn it toward the right foot for 5 min) about every 5 minutes, it seems to have a stronger effect.
I have discovered that "ouch-hot" water is way too hot, and leaves my feet hurting. The foot bath water only needs to be nice and comfortably warm. Whoever wrote "as hot as you can stand it"- I don't remember where I read that, but I respectfully disagree with them. It was supposed to be for the purpose of opening the pores, but I think too much hot is counterproductive, and it made my feet sore.
I think it wise to keep in mind that some folks' feet are less sensitive, and some folks can't even feel their feet- I have relatives who cannot. So I would test the water temp first with hands and decide whether it's too much heat or not- If you can't stand to leave 'em in it without taking them out for relief, IMO it's too hot.
Lastly (Am I wearing you out? :)), there is a great need to drink lots of water if you want this to work well. From what I am seeing, this foot bath *really* races your Lymph system to clear it, and it takes "available internal water" to rinse out those channels. I am downing about 8 16-oz glasses per day (I think), and an extremely dry throat in the middle of the night will wake me up and remind me if I don't. Or I'll wake up with a sinus headache from the dryness.
Well, there you go, can't think of anything else, please keep us posted, OK? Best of luck to your Sweetiefeet :-).
Good Health to All of Us,
Ladylove
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This is a reply to # 1,610,079I have used strong closepins to keep the graters in place (I have them hanging into the water from a plastic planter in order to keep the metal clips from the battery charger from getting in the water) and have them standing side by side 1" apart. I'll try to do the different placements like you did and see what happens. Mine have no plastic around them. I bought the flat ones with just a black handle and cut that off. I'm still getting mostly red scum with what I think may be dead skin flakes in the water. Last night I tried using 1 T. of Sea Salt and not much happened.
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Thanks Antique :-),
You gave me a great idea; I can use the clothespins with a plastic clotheshanger across the bath- Man, that was an uncomfortable position to sit in yesterday for a half hour, but yesterday's bath (switching polarities every 5 minutes + parallel positioning of the graters) was far and away the most effective I've experienced to date.
I still feel like there's a vacuum cleaner drawing on my Lymph channels. I'm trying to keep it fed with water, lol.
Thank you for posting your thoughts :-).
Stay well,
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This is a reply to # 1,610,119Hi Antique,
The clothespin and hangar idea did not work in my setup. I wound up just standing the graters on their narrow end and leaning the plastic top-handle against my leg. Then I had to keep myself from jumping when the 5 minute timer went off, lol.
I'll think of something though, and will post when i figure it out.
I would like to find something more substantial (and most importantly, cleanable) than the cheese graters, like a S/S hinge I can take apart, or a couple of S/S discs or S/S tiles even.
Anyone with ideas, feel free to chime in..
Stay well,
Ladylove
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So....What kind of sludge color (if any) is happening with the polarity changes or what kind of affects are you noticing? If I'm understanding you correctly, you have the graters placed between your feet and you change the red clip with the black one every 5 minutes so that each foot is experiencing each polarity for 5 minutes. I think I'll set mine up tonight with 2 chairs facing each other and just trade chairs every 5 minutes to see how the different polarites affect my detox. Alex Chiu talked about using magnets on little fingers with the polarites going one way in order to do something with the blood. I used his rings and footbraces for a while but the foot braces were too uncomfortable to wear all night. I really didn't notice too much change in my health happening. I do feel better after the footbaths. I have 2 gal. of distilled water (I use it for my Neti pot and for using the Eyebright Formula) I'll add more Sea Salt this time with minerals too and we can compare notes. I know the Neti pot is helping me a lot with pollen alergies.
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This is a reply to # 1,610,292P.S. I'm also taking video pictures of the baths afterwards to see the progression of clearing or whatever happens.
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This is a reply to # 1,610,293Well...it may be back to the drawing board for me. It turns out the graters are stainless steel plated and not pure stainless steel and that is why the part where they were discoloring are now rusting and that may be the red scum I found after the 3 baths. Though, there was no scum when I did a footbath with 1 T. salt instead of 2 and the current went through the graters the same. Just thinking on line. The graters are still steel and conduct the currents, they're just not pure stainless steel. My son suggested using copper but I don't know how safe that is or what the outcome would be. I can get pure stainless steel rods from a scrap metal place near me but it would be nice to know that the graters are still beneficial as is.
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Wearing me out? Heeeeck no. This is terrific sharing of information.
I have become a great proponent of things electrical. Ionic foot baths are the next in line. What I could have done instead of asking a question about placement was, say, do it? Ya think? Which I will.
Am really intrigued about the possibilities with helping to calm down a constant cramp in my sweetie's foot, ankle. She has nerve issues, arthritic issues, and associated muscle and tendon issues we know. Long story as to why, but this has been a constant thing.
But I get the placement, distance, heat, all of these recommendations. And I see others are ringing in with ideas to, for bracing, supporting, etc.
This is great. Am thrilled to see the ideas and contribs coming in. Is as cool as some other threads when I started to participate with them, and good things started to happen. I see the same thing here.
Cool beans...
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This is a reply to # 1,606,143Hi Lady Love,
not sure how much investigation you have done.
i was wondering about a different arrangement with the positive terminal.
have you heard of holding the positive in the hands so the electrical energy flows thru the body, out the feet and into the water to the negative terminal in the water?
i wonder if you know if this would make a difference ?- The 9V Version :-) ladylove
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This is a reply to # 2,027,768Hi Lightfoot500,
I have just uploaded a pdf file of the 9V Version of Ionic Foot Bath which I am most recently using.
Here's the link to it:
//www.curezone.org/upload/_I_J_Forums/IONIC_FOOT_BA/FOOTBATH_SINGLE_FOOT_Foo...
I wanted to get away from using the 110V household electricity, and this version is less expensive (Under $10.USD), less messy, more easily portable and I like that.
While both versions are effectively a "footbath of electrons", the version I posted at the link above also directly increases mild electron flow through the body.
Good Health to All of Us,
Ladylove :-)
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- The 9V Version :-) ladylove
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