Sure Spud. I'm on the fence with this one too. It's hard to find time to research everything I'd like to. I'd sure appreciate hearing whatever you discover.
I'm tired of jumping on all the conspiracy bandwagons. I need more evidence too.
As many of the commenters stated beneath the photos at that link, the photos did nothing to explain away chemtrails, which are pretty much indisputable when you consider that the government has admitted them, they have been widely reported and the material they have spewed out has been collected and tested.
Contrails dissipate and only rarely spread out and linger (and when they do, they do not linger long and create a very thin hazy layer). Contrails are not sprayed in inexplicable X-patterns and grids. Chemtrails spread into thick layers and can linger for hours. Chemtrails frequently are sprayed in grid patterns that cover wide patches of the sky.
I agree that too many people are prone to jump into just about any conspiracy theory. Sadly, I think a much greater number of people have been misled into believing that simply calling something a conspiracy is sufficient to disprove it. The fact is, our country, as did virtually every country and form of government and most of history itself, are all the result of conspiracies.
The thing is we don't want to believe that our government lies to us and thus has been the case for a very long time. All the government has to do and all that those who really control our government and our world have to do is to deny something, or better still, to redicule it and you can count on most of the population to go right back to watching their reality shows and the filtered news and believing that all is right in the world. As a result, the majority of our own country still believes that there really was a swine flu pandemic and that vaccinations containing mercury, aluminum, MSG, aspartame and various mutagens and poisons are perfectly safe. For that matter, most people still believe that the two party smoke and mirrors political system we have is real.
Years ago people would have called anyone who dared suggest that we had false-flag wars or experimented on our own citizens with nuclear radiation and dangerous drugs "whackos" and tinfoil hat wearers. Many people today think that the idea of a medical conspiracy is "whacko" and a surprising number of people still believe that those who tell them that the Federal Reserve Bank is not a government entity, but rather is owned by a cartel of international bankers, are "whacko". But the truth is that such things are indesputable facts.
From the July 2006 Idaho Observer:
In May of 2005 a family in Iowa contacted the office of Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA) to report the constant criss-crossing of "chemtrails" in the sky above their neighborhood. They received back from the senator's office a General Accounting Office (GAO) report on "military chaff" and the material safety data sheet for aluminum-coated fiberglass fibers being spread_seven days a week for several hours each day_in the skies above their home.
The chaff is spread by pilots learning how to mask planes or send false radar images. It was reported that the military also has lead-based chaff, but that it is not being used at this time. Chaff was used by the military in Europe in WWII and, according to the GAO, had been used in training here at home since the 50s.
Once chaff reaches the ground, it breaks down into particles small enough to inhale. Though military spokespeople insist that chaff is not harmful, the GAO report concluded that health effects are unknown and more studies are needed.
Regardless, some members of the family were very sick. On May 23, 2005 after a hard rain the day before, they a noticed glittering substance and a pinkish-colored powder substance on the roof of their house. They then noticed the glittering substance on many surfaces, even the dashboard of the family car. Both substances were collected and sent to a lab for analysis.
Among the substances found to be in the samples were several that should simply not be there:
6 bacteria, including anthrax and pneumonia
9 chemicals including acetylcholine chloride
26 heavy metals including arsenic, gold, lead,mercury, silver, uranium and zinc
4 molds and fung
7 viruses
2 cancers
2 vaccines
2 sedatives
If you want to see what a "chemtrail" insider revealed, see:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1202980#i
and you might also want to take a look at:
Dr. Ian Revson's articles:
Chemtrails parasites have infected all of us (red-wine/peroxide test):
http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1203532#i
Chemtrails weather modification overview:
http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1202980#i
Chemtrails - How 'black' programs are created:
http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1204689#i
Chemtrails biologics disease (questions/answers) pt 1:
http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1204878#i
Silentsuperbug (microscopy pictures/video/reference/therapy):
http://silentsuperbug.com (the video are chilling!)
http://silentsuperbug-reference.blogspot.com
Clifford Carnicom's and Gwen Scott, N.D.'s Work
Morgellons: Pathogens and the General Population
http://www.carnicom.com/morgobs6.htm
The Wine-Peroxide Test:
http://www.carnicom.com/morgobs7.htm
Aerosol Crimes (Video Documentary):
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=aerosol+crimes&sitesearch=#
Its been my experience, that in the last 10 years, the exact opposite of this, is what I'm observing. People are more likely to believe an unproven Conspiracy theory, with little or no evidence, than a scientific theory with much supporting evidence.
What you find in people such as the CureZone audience, especially in the debate forums, and what I have found out in amongst the great unwash are worlds apart. People here tend to be much more skeptical, due no doubt to the medical conspiracy and propaganda they have witnessed which tells us that unnatural drugs are superior to nature itself, and the so-called science which has warned us of the dangers of vitamins, minerals and supplements while telling us of the safety and effectiveness of drugs such as Vioxx, Avandia, Fosamax, Paxil, et al.
All I can tell you is that what I find here at CureZone and on similar forums is vastly different than what I find among family members and neighbors.
I've read that the contrails stay in the sky much longer when it's humid, and it's also true that there are a lot more planes than there used to be flying in all directions.
If there were people "spraying" us with toxins for dozens of years, I think there'd be some with consciences who'd come forward by now. Have you found any?
I'm still researching this subject, but it's on the bottom of my list right now. Thanks for all your research.
"Even if this was a 'need to know' basis, where people only knew part of the story, this would still mean there would be thousands of people who know what is going on, and there is no way I would believe that all these people could be silenced for years and years."
Yes, this is the main reason I'm not worrying about it, or researching so much. All these so called "facts" can be fixed to fit agendas on both sides.
I'm not sure I understand your question. It seems pretty obvious to me what coming forward is. There were kids raised in illuminati homes that came forward, x-cult members, x-government assassins, x-CDC doctors, x-_____s. You know what I'm talking about, don't you? They have many derogatory names for them.
As Spud said, there has to be 1,000's of people involved in a conspiracy that large, or as large as they're saying it is anyway. All they'd have to do is report it to the local news, write a blog, post on CZ or write a book.
I'm not sure how all the whistleblowers and X's start coming out of hiding, are you? I'm probably not answering to your satisfaction because I'm not getting the question or intention.
Thanks.
Did you miss my post?
http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1597950#i
People have come forward, including here in this thread:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1202980#i
And there are other examples easily found, such as:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message462137/pg1
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001648.html
When you get the time to look into chemtrails further, you might start with these posts I made about 20 months ago here in this forum: