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1Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles, and let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us. 2Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. 3Consider him who endured such opposition from sinful men, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.
4In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood. 5And you have forgotten that word of encouragement that addresses you as sons:
"My son, do not make light of the Lord's discipline,
and do not lose heart when he rebukes you,
6because the Lord disciplines those he loves,
and he punishes everyone he accepts as a son."
7Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For what son is not disciplined by his father? 8If you are not disciplined (and everyone undergoes discipline), then you are illegitimate children and not true sons. 9Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of our spirits and live! 10Our fathers disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, that we may share in his holiness. 11No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it.
12Therefore, strengthen your feeble arms and weak knees. 13"Make level paths for your feet," so that the lame may not be disabled, but rather healed.
Warning Against Refusing God
14Make every effort to live in peace with all men and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord. 15See to it that no one misses the grace of God and that no bitter root grows up to cause trouble and defile many. 16See that no one is sexually immoral, or is godless like Esau, who for a single meal sold his inheritance rights as the oldest son. 17Afterward, as you know, when he wanted to inherit this blessing, he was rejected. He could bring about no change of mind, though he sought the blessing with tears.
18You have not come to a mountain that can be touched and that is burning with fire; to darkness, gloom and storm; 19to a trumpet blast or to such a voice speaking words that those who heard it begged that no further word be spoken to them, 20because they could not bear what was commanded: "If even an animal touches the mountain, it must be stoned." 21The sight was so terrifying that Moses said, "I am trembling with fear."
22But you have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, 23to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God, the judge of all men, to the spirits of righteous men made perfect, 24to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.
25See to it that you do not refuse him who speaks. If they did not escape when they refused him who warned them on earth, how much less will we, if we turn away from him who warns us from heaven? 26At that time his voice shook the earth, but now he has promised, "Once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens." 27The words "once more" indicate the removing of what can be shaken—that is, created things—so that what cannot be shaken may remain.
28Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe, 29for our "God is a consuming fire."
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This is a reply to # 1,594,603Hi, I am posting to this one first because I wanted to let you know I am awake--just been a long night.
Our new favorite! I almost posted this one the other day, I love what he is saying. We do need backbone, and no compromise, or changing scripture context to make it fit what we want, instead of letting the Holy Spirit change us. Only then can we be the people we meant to be. Then we want what our Father wants. Sure we can say no, or ignore Him, but why?
He knows what will fullfill us, and bring us joy. We are often too short sighted, and have no idea what a small step in the wrong direction can lead to. Suddenly, you can be living another gospel, and not the one of Jesus Christ, the savior of those who accept him, repent and turn from sin. We are just beginning then, as he changes us, as we are diligent to study His word, which becomes a light to show us his will. And our eyes and understanding are opened, unlike when we read it before we asked Jesus to indwell us and take our lives to use for the glory of our Lord.
I wanted to comment to people who aren't used to this kind of worship, and wonder why he repeats the same thing so many times, there is an important reason sometimes.
When we are singing, we are sometimes praying, as you see some people in the audience. The repetition, is because we desire to meditate on that phrase and saying it more than once helps us feel the presence of the Holy Spirit, who often is felt so strongly, it isn't something we want to stop. At least that is how I feel.
Anyway, Refreshed, I have my new mouse, plus a desk!
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This is a reply to # 1,594,627Hey, sorry I went to bed when I did....looks like you just missed me.
Congrats on the new mouse and desk too. All this writing getting your back in a kink? I visualize you sitting on your bed with your laptop and typing away with all the passion that God has placed on your heart.
As you probably know my church being very traditional does not worship in this manner....but I do, when I go to friends churches or in the privacy of my home or car. Well, the car is not as private...I have gotten some strange looks at time. lol
At one time I though I was missing something being at this church. I wanted more freedom (comfort level) to worship how I wanted to and thought I wanted my church to change to accommodate me. Little did I realize that my thought was very selfish, for the people in my church are not comfortable with large shows of affection to the Lord but truly inside they worship quietly. I have been with them long enough to know that their hearts are sincere and they are not just the "Frozen Chosen".
Learning to respect their way of worship taught me to learn to worship God in any setting and anywhere. I can still have joy inside without an outward expression...well, that is not completely true....I can't wipe the smile off my face. :)- Re: Edit: Great Song... UserX
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This is a reply to # 1,594,746I know exactly what you mean.Like we were talking about the other day, the new songs are missing something that the older hyms have sometimes. I am a quiet person, and I was scared to death at this kind of worshipping at first.Why were people raising their hands, lol and much more. I went to a United Church of Christ for several years and no one acted that way. And our first preacher was very annointed, but when he left another came and the politics of being bound to the denomination started to have bad conseqences. But, that is different at every church.
And, like you said we can worship as openly as we want at home, in the car. If we can serve the Lord at a more conservative church then that is where we belong. Besides, I remember your story and that is definitely where you belong (:
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This is a reply to # 1,594,308He sets our hearts on fire, and in Jesus Christ He avails us of His passion,love, and desire to lead us to our mountain top, not struggling forever in the mire.
Unlike the world, Jesus said "My yoke is easy and My burden is light."
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This is a reply to # 1,594,305This is so important to study. We sometimes put all of our focus on God's grace. And, we believe once we are saved, we just wait for God to speak, but we are called to learn what he has already spoken as well. In the beginning Jesus was the Word. And we are given this living word to learn the will of God.
What kind of a parent would have a child then not teach and discipline him.Today, I think many parents have not set boundaries, and they are only friends to their children. I see a decline, in apparent common sense, and a lack of purpose in the unfortunate children who are not disciplined and then left to learn their wisdom from all the ungodly sources, the devil has handily waiting to ensnare them. But, through His saving grace, thank God, He can rescue them if they ask, from the sinful path they find themselves on. Or if a praying parent recognizes their mistakes and turns to God to interceed in prayer for their children. Anytime we turn back to God, He is always waiting with open arms to receive us as His Children, like the story of the prodigal son.
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