If you haven't already, you might want to try some good quality commerical colloidal gold first to guage the results. As you said, the machines to make it yourself are quite pricey. You definitely cannot use the typical home silver generators.
DQ
That is really great. I would love to see how you did it.
Perhaps you could provide us with detailed instructions and a schematic?
DQ
I recently addressed this question in my private forum (http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1508709)
Here, without the affiliate product link to the nutritional product, is what I posted:
I would go with a couple of teaspoons or more of colloidal gold (up to one good swallow). As for the Gingko, I would stay close to the recommendations on the product label.
One thing you might want to seriously consider is supplementing with magnesium. 90-95% of us are deficient in this vital mineral and some of the symptoms include light or restless sleep and daytime sleepiness along with inability to concentrate. Be sure to supplement on a 1 to 2 or 1 to 3 ratio with calcium, as they are important co-factors.
As a matter of fact, I would seriously consider, in addition to extra magnesium and calcium, a good all around whole food vitamin, mineral and other essential nutrient product such as the outstanding nutritional product IntraMAX. It is advertised, correctly in my opinion, as a 100% Organic MicroComplexed™ IntraCELL™ Level IV Technology product which contains a total of 415 Nutrients all in one - with perfect whole foods and phyto nutrition and is super energizing. It is rightfully touted as the most scientifically advanced, clinically proven, health promoting organic nutritional supplement available today.
One must remember that the brain is a vital organ just like the heart, lungs, liver, etc., and it needs optimum nutrition to function properly. Sadly, today's SAD diet of fast foods, snacks & junk foods, microwavable meals and processed foods on the grocers shelves have left most of our kids, and us, woefully deficient in a great many nutrients the body was designed to utilize. Sometimes the consequences manifest themselvs early on, and other times it is down the road a ways. But you can bet that there will be consequences if not addressed and corrected.
Some other suggested essentials from one of my favorite sourcebooks, Phyllis Balch's "Prescription for Nutritional Healing" are:
Ms. Balch notes that Valerian root extract has been used for ADD with dramatic results and no side effects. Mix the alcohol free extract in juice (as directed on the product label according to age) and drink the mixture two or three times a day.
She also likes the Ginko.
All the best,
DQ (Tony)
The forum you pointed to requires a membership to access, so I can not comment on what is posted there. I don't know what kind of setup is used to produce "colloidal gold", though I suspect it is some form of electrolysis and note that the popular silver home generators do not have the capability of making homemade ionic gold, colloidal gold, or gold solution of any kind, much less something comparable to Utopia Silver or Purest Colloids true colloidal gold.
I am pretty confident that the small particle sizes that are produced as a result of the proprietary processes of both Utopia Silver and Purest Colloids provide a significant superiority in surface area, and thus effectiveness, the same as they do with the true colloidal silver products they make. From what I understand, those differences might also make a very large difference in safety as well.
Most products called ionic gold are produced by electrolysis and typically produce particles which range in size from 70-120 nanometers - much larger than the few nanometers in size of the true colloidal gold produced by Utopia and Purest Colloids and thus with much, much less surface area. It is surface area that determines the effectiveness of a colloid.
Furthermore, many products labeled as labeled as ionic gold are really gold chloride, also called chlorauric acid, a water soluble gold salt. That is what the powdered gold products usually are too. The reason you don't see gold chloride on the label or mentioned in the ads is because gold chloride is known to be potentially toxic to humans. Gold chloride has been known to cause peripheral neuropathy.
One simple way to tell what you have: if it is not ruby red in color it isn't colloidal gold.
The bottom line to me is that if it were so easy, cheap and safe to make colloidal gold via simple electrolysis or via dissolving gold chloride then Utopia Silver and Purest Colloids would not have invested the hundreds of thousands of dollars in their processes.
From a personal standpoint, I have not tried any gold solution other than Utopia Silver (though I am certain that MesoGold is superb too). When I take only a couple of teaspoons there is subtle yet noticeable difference in mood and focus.
A 6100% markup? I suppose one could make that claim based on weight alone - if you overlook the hundreds of thousands of dollars in equipment and the overhead of having a facility and staff. Basing a markup claim on weight along, while perhaps technically accurate for the assayed value of the amount of gold in hand, also fails to take into account the vital importance of relative surface area.
If the size of the gold particles in home made gold solution versus that of commercial true colloidal gold particles is akin to that of basketballs or bowling balls versus BB's, then take the number of basketballs or BBs that will fill a 50 gallon drum and total their surface area up and then do the same with BBs. You will find that the smaller BBs have hundreds and perhaps even thousands of times more surface area and that is the same as is true in homemade ionic or dissolved metal solutions versus superior true colloids. When you look at it that way, the relative difference in cost (or actual value) is not nearly so dramatic as it appears by simply comparing the weight of the metals.
I have seen much the same arguments put forth about homemade silver versus true colloidal silver. The idea that someone could make an equal quality product with a nine volt battery and a glass of water to something that is made with advanced technology where the replacement element in a single one of three inline filters cost more than most home generators (over $300 per element, which are changed several times a year) is rediculous. You may be getting a much cheaper product, but you are also getting a much less effective product with far, far less surface area and, in the case of home made gold solutions, one that is possibly dangerous to ingest.
Yes, I am friends with the owner of Utopia Silver and have been since the second grade. I also know the owner of Purest Colloids pretty well. Because of that and my own research, I know a bit about colloidal metals. I also know how their colloidal metals are made and there is simply no comparison between their processes and any others I know of. If I were not friends and wanted colloidal gold, based on what I know I would still opt for either Utopia Silver or Purest Colloids because their gold products have the smallest particle sizes and are true colloids and because home made gold products and inferior commercial products are likely not actual colloids. Plus, they may very well contain gold chloride which is a neurotoxin.
As I posted earlier - if the end product you get is not a ruby colored liquid, then you do NOT have colloidal gold. Here is a way to test for the presence of gold chloride:
Put a small sample of the ionic gold solution in a clear glass and add one drop of a 1% silver nitrate solution. The presence of chloride is indicated by the formation of a white cloud in the liquid. The white cloud is silver chloride, an insoluble salt which is formed when silver ions combine with chloride ions. The formation of silver chloride proves that the solution being tested is gold chloride.
If the solution tests positive for gold chloride, then my advice would be to steer clear of it regardless of perceived cost benefits. On the other hand, if it does not test positive for gold chloride you might give it a try - just don't expect the same results you will get with the superior commercial gold true colloid products.
I am not sure how much "home made" gold one would have to take to get the same benefit of the normal dose of two teaspoons of colloidal gold, but I rather imagine it would take a lot - and the price of gold being what it is, that might add up to more than one might think. I note that if a person were to take two teaspoons of gold daily, a gallon of colloidal gold would last about a year.
Personally, I like and use both colloidal silver and colloidal gold - and I consider both to be safe. Even so, I don't take either silver or gold on a daily basis and when I do take either one of them I would rather put the smallest amount of any metal as possible into my body that would get the job done rather than opt for saving money and ingesting many times the amount needed otherwise.
The basketball analogy is quite valid, regardless of your opinion. Particles 0.5 to 20 nanometers are very small particles, much more so than the particles in "gold dust" products. The purpose of brown bottles in supplements is NOT to mask the content, but rather to block sunlight and brown bottles are a standard color used for liquid supplement products. The 6100% markup is a figure that the ignorant or the scheming try to use to promote home made and inferior products. THAT is the tired old story that will not float. Most drugs and many supplements for that matter have equal or greater markups. If you grow you own herbs and produce tinctures and extracts, what is the markup there?
You are right about going to computer school with Bill Gates not necessarily making you a computer expert. On the other hand, if you had been a lifetime friend of Bill Gates, worked with him and served as a consultant to him, it just might make you a bit more knowledgeable than the average geek. Now, how about you tell us your own background and credentials?
EDIT - I see that you or a moderator took out the disgusting content that was originally in your post.
If you knew what you were talking about you would know that the reason they use a brown bottle is that is the type of bottle they use for all the colloidal solutions they make - and it IS advisable to use brown/dark bottles for colloidal silver, which was the first colloidal product they made. It has nothing whatsoever to do with masking the product, which is a dark purplish red in color. Colloidal silver, colloidal gold, colloidal copper - same bottles, different products and labels. Similarly, the use the same type of bottles for the capsule products they purchase in bulk and sell. Likewise they use the same containers for the colloidal silver, gold and copper skin and scalp bars.
An inferior product which has a wide range of particle sizes will also be reddish in color if even SOME of the particles are within the range you list. Reddish color by itself does not indicate that ALL or even MOST of the particles fall within that range, and it should also be noted that particles closer to 1 nm in size have much, much larger surface area per PPM than do particles closer to 20 nm.
If you knew anything at all about their production equipment you would know that it is state of the art equipment that far surpasses almost every other kind of equipment out there. Superior equipment and unique processes are the reasons that Utopia Silver and Purest Colloids are by far the two best colloidal solution manufacturers to be found. The equipment they use cost hundreds of thousands of dollars - and you don't have that kind of expense along with supplies, staff and overhead and sell something you make based solely on the value of the metal on a metal exchange market any more than you purchase a car based on the metal value. People use the same markup analogy when promoting home-made silver. Certainly making your own is an economical way to go and one's expense after equipment would be based mostly on the price of the metal. The downside is that you also get a mostly ionic product with larger particle sizes and an effective surface area that is hundreds of times less than the two best commercial products per PPM.
I note that you failed to mention any credentials which might give any of us reason to give creedence to what you have said, instead attacking me with slurs (now removed) as if that somehow would cause anyone to give you a shred of credibility. And regarding what you have said - especially before your post was changed - if your rudeness and ignorance are indications of what members here would find at the Yahoo group you keep touting, I would suggest they pass on your attempt to lure them to that site.
If you would bother to check with my friend Frank Keys, the owner of Purest Colloids, he will gladly tell you that Utopia Silver colloids are one of the top two in the world (with his being the other). He should know, since his laboratory has tested most of the products out there. Other than Mesosilver, no other colloidal or ionic silver product tested has measured anywhere near the efficiency of Utopia Silver's product. If Utopia Silver is superior to all products save Mesosilver, how could anyone possibly claim that they are trying to hide their product? The obvious answer is that no one who knows what they are talking about could make such a rediculous claim.
Agglomeration problems and outdated equipment? The equipment, which is constantly being maintained and upgraded is only a few years old, as is the unique process they use. I have seen containers of Utopia Silver colloidal liquids that they have kept onhand for up to five years to determine how long they hold up, and their is virtually no agglomeration. I personally keep up to 5 gallons of Advanced Colloidal Silver onhand and I have never observed any agglomeration problems with those containers either. Unlike you, I have also seen Utopia Silver's equipment and manufacturing process up close and often, whereas you obviously have no clue about their equipment, the process they use, or the quality of their products.
Who are you anyway? You fail to provide any clue, yet dare call me a poser? I am an open book to one and all and I have a track record here of several thousand posts. Those who are familiar with CureZone and my posts know the quality of the information I provide. You on the other hand have no track record here, refuse to disclose your background or credentials, and appear to be determined to do nothing but be a negative poster who has no clue about what they are talking about and who is attempting to lure CureZone members to an alternate site.
The portion of your answer that was removed by a moderator said nothing about YOUR credentials. Instead, it contained a disgusting personal attack against me which included the allegation that I was the homosexual lover of the owner of Utopia Silver. What a class act you are! Maybe that kind of behavior is allowed at the Yahoo group you have tried to lure CZ members to, but it is not allowed here.
Feel free to blather on with your unsupported suppositions and misinformation. Quite frankly you are a waste of my time.