mastic gum and mag-malate 
Pratt
15 y
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I ordered both the mastic and mag-malate.The supplement facts for the mastic gum says other ingredients are hyrdo oxproply methylcellulose,cellulose,magnesium sterate,
silicon dioxide are these ok? Finally the mag-malate has
100 mg of magnesium(as magnesium amino acid chelate) and
400 of malic acid,is this sufficient?The mag-malate is
from Douglas Laboratories and the mastic gum is from Nutri-
Cology.Are they both ok to use?- Re: mastic gum and mag-malate Hveragerthi
15 y
6,957
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I ordered both the mastic and mag-malate.The supplement facts for the mastic gum says other ingredients are hyrdo oxproply methylcellulose,cellulose,magnesium sterate, silicon dioxide are these ok?
These are binders and flow agents so it sounds like a tablet. You will find similar ingredients in most tablets. Capsules will sometimes use flow agents, but they have less added ingredients than capsules. If I had to choose between tablets or capsules for this reason I would go with capsules.
Finally the mag-malate has 100 mg of magnesium(as magnesium amino acid chelate) and 400 of malic acid, is this sufficient?
If you are going for ATP formation yes as both produce ATP. You will also be getting more magnesium from your diet, especially dark green leafy vegetables.
The mag-malate is from Douglas Laboratories and the mastic gum is from Nutri-Cology. Are they both ok to use?
Yes, the flow agents and binders are generally safe in the small amounts you would be ingesting.
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- Re: mastic gum and mag-malate Pratt
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- Re: mastic gum and mag-malate Hveragerthi
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This is a reply to # 1,501,551
the mastic gum is a capsule
Then the magnesium stearate and silica are being used as a flow agents. The celluloses are fillers. Magnesium stearate is not used very often in capsules, but it is probably being used int his case due to the stickiness of the mastic gum being a resin.
- Re: mastic gum and mag-malate Hveragerthi
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- Re: mastic gum and mag-malate Pratt
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- Re: mastic gum and h pylori? ruff magruff
15 y
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This is a reply to # 1,501,524i just saw a post about mastic gum for treating h. pylori...
i am not sure if i have h. pylori, but i think i might because i seem to have some issue with flora in my stomach or duodenum it feels like
either warm uncomfortable and itchy in that region (upper left quadrant), or especially cold
i really cant eat grains at all without adverse reactions...sugar seems to be less of a cause.
when i get bad digestion (usually from eating grains or bad food combinations) i get a sort of coating covering the back part of my tongue, it seems to be secreting some kind of sour acid that tastes like carbonation...any idea what this taste is or whats causing it? is it actually excess carbonic acid? or uric acid? or...
do y'all think its likely that i have h. pylori? i dont have the excess stomach acid like ive heard it causes but i also eat a diet very low or exclusive of foods i am sensitive to, such as wheat, vinegar, peanuts, citric acid (aspergillis niger), and most grains.
are there other organisms that specialise in the duodenum...should i try the mastic gum? can it hurt?
this magnesium-malate helpps with ATP formation...does it help releive fatigue? or what are its main functions?
any info would help, thank you all
to health!
~ruff- Re: mastic gum and h pylori? ruff magruff
15 y
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This is a reply to # 1,501,556wiki says:
"Carbonic acid also plays a very important role as a buffer in mammalian blood. The equilibrium between carbon dioxide and carbonic acid is very important for controlling the acidity of body fluids, and the carbonic anhydrase increases the reaction rate by a factor of nearly a billion to keep the fluids at a stable pH." - Re: mastic gum and h pylori? Hveragerthi
15 y
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This is a reply to # 1,501,556
i just saw a post about mastic gum for treating h. pylori...
i am not sure if i have h. pylori, but i think i might because i seem to have some issue with flora in my stomach or duodenum it feels like
either warm uncomfortable and itchy in that region (upper left quadrant), or especially cold
i really cant eat grains at all without adverse reactions...sugar seems to be less of a cause.
when i get bad digestion (usually from eating grains or bad food combinations) i get a sort of coating covering the back part of my tongue, it seems to be secreting some kind of sour acid that tastes like carbonation...any idea what this taste is or whats causing it? is it actually excess carbonic acid? or uric acid? or...Overall your symptoms sound more like a mild case of acid reflux.
do y'all think its likely that i have h. pylori? i dont have the excess stomach acid like ive heard it causesH. pylori does not increase stomach acid, it lowers it. The bacteria secretes ammonia to neutralize stomach acid as a means of protecting itself from the stomach acid. This is why one of the tests for H. pylori is an ammonia test in the breath.
but i also eat a diet very low or exclusive of foods i am sensitive to, such as wheat, vinegar, peanuts, citric acid (aspergillis niger), and most grains.
are there other organisms that specialise in the duodenum...Not that I can think of. Most bacteria cannot survive in an acidic environment like the stomach.
should i try the mastic gum? can it hurt?
I would give it a try, it will not hurt. And H. pylori can contribute to acid reflux by neutralization of the stomach acid.
this magnesium-malate helpps with ATP formation...does it help releive fatigue? or what are its main functions?It can help with some cases of fatigue. But fatigue has a number of reasons. Magnesium is involved in several thousand reactions in the body. Some of the better known are muscle relaxation, insulin formation, improving heart function and lowering blood pressure.
- Re: mastic gum and h pylori? ruff magruff
15 y
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This is a reply to # 1,501,572i forgot to mention, a telling symptom i have is that when i get stressed, as with people yelling or just any aggrivation really, i get this hot feeling in my upper left quadrant, like my dysbiosis is loving the cortisol or something...an uncomfortable tingling and warmth. i used to be able to laugh at violence and stress and now i am its victim always.
some guy got mad as i was walking on his waterfront lawn, the last house on the point. he had just woke up, me and my brother were searching eastward towards the sunrise on the rocky point...it was like he wanted to spew his agression anger and consume his life with pointless strife. ruin his morning buggering about kids with good intentions. i didnt care, he was a bigot, and im bold enough, but now the burning feeling in my stomach makes me succeptable to his poison...i cant just turn off my stress receptors. my whole face flushes with warmth.
i really think it is stress related, and i try to get as least stress as possible but sometimes its unavoidable.
does this help with identifying anything...
hv- you still think acid reflux? i seem to digest most of my food fine and have sufficient acid, and i dont get burping or hot feelings in my esophagus or at my sternum level..its really like 2.5 inches up and left from my navel (from my perspective) that these feelings are centered.
this is the same place where i used to have stabbing pains-extrememly sharp cramps that would last for 20 minutes, unbearable pain. slightly releived with pressure applied... 4 years ago after camping and coming back into civilization then splurging on too much pizza and milk and having a horrible reaction and incredibly painful pooping episode this stabbing pain happened once a week, and then once a month, and then once 2 months...this past year it returned a bit when i was still eating gluten and then after i stopped gluten it happened a couple times with dehydration, and when taking primal defense...this has always since 4 years ago been my "sensitive spot." 4 years ago was the first time my gluten allergy really reared its teeth and i didnt even have an idea about food allergies then...i had food cravings like i couldnt get sated for the first time in my life...but it slowly got better. and my fatigue got worse.
does this reminiscing mean anything to anyone? it feels good to tell my story.
a sharp stabbing in the upper left quadrant. stress related heat. dehydration.
thanks!
peace to you, as much as is out there!
~ruff- Re: mastic gum and h pylori? Hveragerthi
15 y
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This is a reply to # 1,501,582
Part of what you are describing sounds like a hiatal hernia. And it does sound like a mild case of acid reflux, which is commonly associated with hiatal hernias.
Stress will increase stomach acid levels, and if some of this is seeping back in to the lower esophagus then it could cause the burning in the lower esophagus, but not the upper esophagus. I have posted on ideas of how to deal with hiatal hernias on here before. It would not hurt to try some of the suggestions just in case there is one present.
As for the stress you need to work on your adrenal glands. The adrenals form your anti-stress hormones to help you adapt to stressful situations. Therefore as you strengthen your adrenals you will find that you are less likely to overreact to stressful situations.- Re: mastic gum and h pylori? spudlydoo
15 y
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This is a reply to # 1,501,869Hi ruff, A lot of the symptoms you describe are familiar to me, I have gluten intolerance, but was undiagnosed for 30 years, and the result of this was a lot of damage to the villi in my bowel. When I had a bowel biopsy to confirm the diagnosis, the doctor couldn't believe that I was absorbing anything at all from the food I ate, the damage was very extensive. The point is that, although the damage is repairing somewhat, and now with avoiding any gluten or wheat products, my digestion is improving, I still get a lot of pain, when stressed, in the areas of most damage.
When were you diagnosed with gluten intolerance??
The bitters, that Hv recommends are one of the best things I've tried for digestive problems, and working on building good gut flora.
spud
- Re: mastic gum and h pylori? spudlydoo
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- Re: mastic gum and h pylori? Hveragerthi
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- Re: mastic gum and h pylori? ruff magruff
15 y
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- Re: mastic gum and h pylori? ruff magruff
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- Re: mastic gum and mag-malate Hveragerthi
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