What are allergies. 
Neo...
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MoreAllergies are increasing worldwide and I wonder what they truly are...
If one separates the mind/body connection and simply looks at the bodily mechanisms or perhaps one should say body fallout there are three areas that seem to apply.
First...poor digestion via liver function. Weak Phase II would do it as normal food becomes toxins.
Second....flora...dysbiosis would cause poor breakdown of
proteins..the core of much of what we term allergies.
Third...low stomach acid...which would result in a failure to
cleave proteins..
Where does your adrenal theory come in with these three..and do you have another component to add to the Adrenal/Allergy connection.
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- Re: What are allergies. Hveragerthi
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,494,109
Here is part of a previous post I made on the subject:
If you have allergies you have adrenal dysfunction. Allergies result from a lack of antihistamine and antileukotriene epinephrine and anti-inflammatory and immune modulating corticosteroids. This is why doctors use epinephrine and steroids to treat allergies. They are substituting for what the adrenals are failing to put out in sufficient quantities.
The undigested proteins are merely the antigens that trigger off the response. But if the adrenals respond properly we should not have symptoms to the allergic response. Another way to look at this is that we are all exposed to allergens every day, but we don't all have allergies. If the adrenals are functioning properly they counter full blown allergic repsonses to these allergens.
- Re: What are allergies. Neo...
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This is a reply to # 1,494,113That is an interesting theory.
In my case I have normal plasma cortisol yet massively low
saliva cortisol...I wonder if this is due to cortisol being used up to stave off the allergic reaction.
Other than your adrenal protocol....any other suggestions.- Re: What are allergies. johng
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This is a reply to # 1,494,146I too have been troubled by allergies, and think your explanation has some more truth. But, do you think its possible that you could it backwards? that is, massive allergic reations deplete the adrenal glands over time? Or, how about individuals who have a few very stong allergies like shell fish or peanuts. I know a girl who literally got third degree like buns on her food because a small piece of peanut shell touched her exposed food for just an instant. The allergic response is so exagerated that the adrenals could never hope to control it.
I don't mean to attack your explanation, just discuss. you obviously know health, so, I appreciate you insights. Like Neo, I have struggled with allergy issues for some time.
John- Re: What are allergies. Neo...
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This is a reply to # 1,494,198John...I am sure it is a viscous cycle...the core cause would be tough to pin down.
I am curious about H's concept too...for example I know a couple of massively stressed people who show no signs of allergies. If cortisol is the issue..how does my wife have gluten issues and normal cortisol...
- Re: What are allergies. johng
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This is a reply to # 1,494,310Allergies are incredibly complex, and variable, no doubt. I am currently doing NAET and a similar treatment with a great chiropracter who studied TCM. He tells me that he stopped trying to understand the why behind allergies, and now just works to reverse them. He concluded that the origins are too complex to nail down. Too early to tell yet what the results will be for me. I do agree with H's view that bowel flora is an important component, with stomach acid levels. I asked her a question above to help me come up with a fiber program that will help. He view makes good sense to me on fibre.
John- Re: What are allergies. Neo...
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This is a reply to # 1,494,319John...Tried Naet big time a few months ago....Nada.
My practitioner was taught by the big cheese of Naet herself...
As they say Your Mileage May Vary...good luck and keep us
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- Re: What are allergies. Neo...
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This is a reply to # 1,494,748No, not unless placebo is the main power of the protocol...hahahaha.
I was never a big believer and simply thought it worth a
try. That of course is the acid test of any of these energy
therapies. The practitioner identified a few things that did coorelate to symptoms...and claimed to have cleared them. Subsequent exposure netted the same result.
If allergies are the result of chemical imbalances as H suggests I do not know how energetic medicine can purport to modify them other than by destressing the mind...which I
suppose could work over the long term...but so could beer.- Re: What are allergies. johng
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This is a reply to # 1,494,816I've had some really interesting experiences so far, and my health has really improved, but, I haven't really put the allergy part of the treatments to the test. still in a deep recovery phase and don't want to stress my body. the treatments were very effective against parasites, both in identifying them and purging them.
In the last year, I knew that I had a parasite problem of some sort. I did Miracle-Mineral-Supplement for awhile, and it purged some strange globs, not sure what they were at the time. I later learned that Miracle-Mineral-Supplement didn't get them all, nor did human worm or countless other things I tried. Muscle testing with current doc correctly identified the parasites, and then we did treatments using the vials, clonorchis sinesis and f. buski- I lived in china on and off for years). Rife helped as did certain herbs. towards the end, through some masterful muscle testing by my doc, we figured out that the clonochis (liver fluke) was using plastic as a protective biofilm. Additionally I was alergic to the plastic. after the first plastic treatment, I woke up the next day with my skin covered in a plastic grime of some sort, and really had to scub to get rid off it. it took a good month of treatment after that, but finally I think they are gone.
that is only one example, but had several other incidents like this that proved the value of the energy treatments to me. but so far, I have not tested the allergy compenent of the treatments... i'll let you know how that goes later on.
John
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- Re: What are allergies. Hveragerthi
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This is a reply to # 1,494,310
I am curious about H's concept too...for example I know a couple of massively stressed people who show no signs of allergies.
Stress also raises epinephrine. If their diet is supporting their adrenal's production of epinephrine then this could be one explanation. It could also be that if they are living on caffeine, caffeine blocks cAMP breakdown, which can help prevent allergic responses in the short term. There is just not enough information to go on.
If cortisol is the issue..how does my wife have gluten issues and normal cortisol...
A gluten intolerance can be hereditary as well. And cortisol testing is not even close to being accurate. Cortisol levels are in a constant state of fluctuation and can jump in a second in response to stresses such as being stuck with a needle to test cortisol levels. This can lead to false normal readings, just like as is seen in thyroid testing.
There are others making the same claim such as these:
http://www.smart-publications.com/allergies/adrenal_support.php
http://www.adrenalfatigue.org/adrenal-fatigue-related-health-conditions/adren...
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- Re: What are allergies. Hveragerthi
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This is a reply to # 1,494,198
I too have been troubled by allergies, and think your explanation has some more truth. But, do you think its possible that you could it backwards? that is, massive allergic reations deplete the adrenal glands over time? Or, how about individuals who have a few very stong allergies like shell fish or peanuts. I know a girl who literally got third degree like buns on her food because a small piece of peanut shell touched her exposed food for just an instant. The allergic response is so exagerated that the adrenals could never hope to control it.
I don't mean to attack your explanation, just discuss. you obviously know health, so, I appreciate you insights. Like Neo, I have struggled with allergy issues for some time.Allergic responses will weaken the adrenal glands further because they force the adrenals to work overtime. But it is still the failure of the adrenals to put out sufficient levels of epinephrine and corticosteroids that lead to the reactions. I posted additional evidence to the claim in my response to Neo. But the strongest evidence is in what is used to treat anaphylaxis. In such cases the first thing given is epinephrine. And secondary high levels of steroids. These will stop the allergic reaction, and both of these are normally supplied by the adrenals. So why would giving these substances work if they were not in short supply to begin with?
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This is a reply to # 1,494,146
That is an interesting theory.
There is more evidence to prove this. For example, why do children born with allergies/asthma tend to outgrow these conditions around the age of 5? Simple, the adrenals have matured enough by that time to allow sufficient production of epinephrine and corticosteroids. In addition stress, steroids and stimulants are all known to aggravate and even precipitate these attacks. Why? Because all of these suppress adrenal gland function.
In my case I have normal plasma cortisol yet massively low
saliva cortisol...I wonder if this is due to cortisol being used up to stave off the allergic reaction.I don't trust saliva testing at all.
Other than your adrenal protocol....any other suggestions.Not really. The primary focus should be on nutrition for the adrenals, adrenal supporting (adaptogenic) herbs, and avoiding stress, stimulants and steroids. I have seen numerous people get rid of their allergies by building up their adrenals, and it does not take long to see results.
In a pinch quercetin or coleus forskohlii can be used to stop an allergic response, but this should only be done in extreme cases since this will dry up the sinuses. Drying up the sinuses contributes to sinus infections since bacteria and fungi are not being flushed out.
- Re: What are allergies. Neo...
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This is a reply to # 1,495,067Good stuff H...
I see you are quoting Wilson though and it seems you agree with about half of his theories. As you know he believes in
utilizing stimulants...and sells them big time.
- Re: What are allergies. Hveragerthi
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This is a reply to # 1,495,242
I see you are quoting Wilson though and it seems you agree with about half of his theories. As you know he believes in
utilizing stimulants...and sells them big time.It is going to be next to impossible to find a ND or other healer that I see eye to eye with. I am against too many of the popular things recommended like DHEA, glandulars, low dose cortisol, etc. So I was not posting the links for their recommendations, just to show that the adrenal connection is known and to allow them to explain it in their words because they may explain a detail differently than would that may make more sense to someone. I know that I do not always explain things clearly as what is clear and understandable to me may not be for someone else.
- Re: What are allergies. Neo...
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This is a reply to # 1,495,273I understand...and yes, it does take a lot of research and a artistic mind to coorelate the theories. Perhaps thats why your photos are so good...one day I will pop down and show you how to make em even better.
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Tit For Tat. DrJulienArbor
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This is a reply to # 1,495,286Since I see you're bragging about your photographic abilities yet again... perhaps you can help me out with something. My grandmother's scrapbook is full of old.... and dare I say... historically significant photographs. They all should have been professionally preserved, but of course they weren't... and a couple of them have come loose from the black scrapbook paper that they were glued to. What I've discovered is that my grandmother wrote all sorts of things on the back of the photographs and I need to remove them without causing any damage and also in such a way so that the black paper doesn't remain on the back and prevent me from reading what she wrote. She also wrote with a fountain pen so whatever I use and however I do it must not cause the ink to run. In your highly regarded and sought after professional opinion... what would you suggest?
By the way.. have you heard anything from Simon lately? He may be contacting you so you might want to get ready...
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- Re: What are allergies. jfh
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This is a reply to # 1,495,067"In a pinch quercetin or coleus forskohlii can be used to stop an allergic response, but this should only be done in extreme cases since this will dry up the sinuses. Drying up the sinuses contributes to sinus infections since bacteria and fungi are not being flushed out." - HV
Darn! I continue to betray myself with inadequate knowledge of the side effects of herbs or contraindications. There must be some reference, hopefully on-line, with this information. I'm determined to find it - without killing my retirement account in the process.
It appears, from HVs response that I need to refrain from using coleus; until I finish improving my adrenals. No wonder my sinus mucus is so disgustingly thick. I'll continue to work with the yucca, licorice root, nettle, bupleurum, ashwagandha, schisandra, boswellia for now.
One cannot miss an HV response. Not even one. ...or else.
- Re: What are allergies. Hveragerthi
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I have been working on my online book idea. It will include postings on different boards for the last 10+ years, some articles I wrote, maybe the subject notes I hand out to my students when teaching so they can keep up, etc.
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