Types of DE 
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I am wondering about the grades of DE. I called our local feed store today inquiring about DE, and the only grade they carry is FEED grade. I could not find any info on feed grade, but did find out that pool grade is unacceptable. Can anyone give guidance? Thanks!!- Re: Types of DE spudlydoo
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This is a reply to # 1,484,557The DE used for swimming pool filters is highly toxic and must not be used. I imagine that if its feed grade for animals it would be ok for humans. The DE I use is called 'Fossil shell Flour' and is food grade for people and animals, I get it from an animal health site.
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This is a reply to # 1,484,667Here's where I found it http://www.earthworkshealth.com/
prices are good and it is a Christian run business.I,m ordering 3 50 lbs bags- Re: Earthwork's DE has High Aluminum lucidhunt 24/7
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This is a reply to # 1,484,763I ordered 50lbs (several weeks ago) from Earthworks the ordering/shipping process was fine. .. However (couple weeks ago) I read their analysis report ( DE at their own site) THE ALUMINUM in their DE is HIGH … you may want to conceder/find another source for ordering.
I’ve not reconciled, prepared to accept their (PermaGuard‘s-Earthworks‘) added words placed around the analysis report on their DE . Their further statements, words as to removing more aluminum from your body (or what I read as PermaGuard’s implying… perhaps) because of the fact, actuality of the quantity (high aluminum) in their DE or at least NOT adding ( MORE) supplementary aluminum from ingestion of their DE.
Concerning Earthworks’ DE with the high aluminum??? Perhaps??? Hv can make more chemical reasoning good or bad…as to the chemical body’s reality of what it can imply for one’s health?
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I looked through their website and did not see the chemical analysis, but being that it is 84% silica tells me that it is raw DE. Raw DE has roughly an 80% silica content with the rest of the mineral content being primarily calcium oxide, magnesium oxide, and aluminum oxide. Even though silica binds with aluminum for removal from the body there is the risk of the aluminum binding to other substances such as proteins hormones and therefore I prefer to use purified DE. Purified DE is treated with acid to remove the metal oxides then washed and dried. Other than raw material suppliers though I am not sure where to get it.
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This is a reply to # 1,484,935Hv, thanks for your reply...
For those that may want/need to read the metal analysis report from Earthworks’ link:
http://www.earthworkshealth.com/Doc/PermagaurdAnalysis.pdf
- Re: Earthwork's DE has High Aluminum #116107
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This is a reply to # 1,484,935Is there a difference between food grade and purified DE? Where do you get your DE, Hv?
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Is there a difference between food grade and purified DE?
Food grade should be purified. If the metal oxides have not been removed I don't think it should be listed as food grade.
Where do you get your DE, Hv?
From raw material suppliers for the supplement industry. They don't sell to the general public though.
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- Re: Earthwork's DE has High Aluminum #116107
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This is a reply to # 1,484,935Another question... I did purchase a 1.5 lb. box of "Concern" brand DE. There is no grade mentioned on the box, but it does say it is OK for organic gardens. The ingredient list says: Silicon dioxide from DE, 85%, other elemental oxides, 10%, moisture 5.0%. Is this OK to use for drinking? If not, I will use it for bug control. Thanks for all your answers, everyone!
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Another question... I did purchase a 1.5 lb. box of "Concern" brand DE. There is no grade mentioned on the box, but it does say it is OK for organic gardens. The ingredient list says: Silicon dioxide from DE, 85%, other elemental oxides, 10%, moisture 5.0%. Is this OK to use for drinking? If not, I will use it for bug control. Thanks for all your answers, everyone!
The metal oxides means it still has the aluminum.
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Hi.
Great forum you have here!
I wonder if the Wolfcreekranch is Ok to use.
(I just orded a new pack from them, and they ship to Europe)
Her is their analysis:
http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/diatomaceous_earth_analysis.html
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This is a reply to # 1,485,208
Great forum you have here!
Thanks.
I wonder if the Wolfcreekranch is Ok to use.
(I just orded a new pack from them, and they ship to Europe)
Her is their analysis:
http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/diatomaceous_earth_analysis.html
It is still raw, unpurified DE. And I still think they should not be calling raw DE "food grade". I think they do that because we get many of the elements in the DE in our food anyway in the same or higher levels.
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This is a reply to # 1,484,858I'm using this food grade DE and am very satisfied with it. The prices seems competitive with other vendors.
http://www.morethanalive.com/DEP
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This is a reply to # 1,485,226After all of this .....Is it safe to take the Perma-guard brand?I bought 50 pounds of the stuff to share with family and friends so tell me please.
And if I can ask one more question on DE.Has anyone taken DE on a plane when travelling?I'm going on vacation soon and don't want to miss my DE for two weeks.But my hubby said no way am I taking that stuff on the plane before it is mistaken for some kind of drugs and we don't get to our destination!!!
Pray tell me wise ones.
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After all of this .....Is it safe to take the Perma-guard brand?I bought 50 pounds of the stuff to share with family and friends so tell me please.
Being that the silica binds and removes aluminum then the risk is very likely to be minimal if at all. I am thinking about looking more in to the silicon citrate again. I have been using this in my water as an alternative to DE and I like it. But I have not looked at the analysis for it yet. It should be purified before reaction with the citric acid.
And if I can ask one more question on DE.Has anyone taken DE on a plane when travelling?I'm going on vacation soon and don't want to miss my DE for two weeks.But my hubby said no way am I taking that stuff on the plane before it is mistaken for some kind of drugs and we don't get to our destination!!!It does look like drugs. And even though they can taste it to see it is not a drug you wold have to find someone to do that and all it still takes is one official having a bad day. I would not risk it. Mail a small amount to your destination ahead of time as long as it does not have to go through customs.
Pray tell me wise ones.- Re: Earthwork's DE has High Aluminum surley
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This is a reply to # 1,485,488Thanks HV...what would we do without you?You're too kind!
That's it then,no way am I taking my de on that plane.Sheesh,I'll have to do without it for two whole weeks.
Do let us know about your silicon citrate and the benefits you experience HV.Much obliged.- Re: Earthwork's DE has High Aluminum Hveragerthi
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Do let us know about your silicon citrate and the benefits you experience HV.Much obliged.
I have been using the silcon citrate in my water for about a year now. It has the same effect on my nails as the DE does, hardening them. So other than being cleaner there should be no difference between the citrate and DE. In fact DE is most likely the starting point for silicon citrate as it is for most silica supplements.
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I read it has 89% silicon and 4% aluminum. Is that safe to drink? I also bought 50lbs from them and have been drinking it for almost a year.
Would you use it like you said to in tiny amounts to fix RO water if you had 50 lbs?
Where do we go for guidelines of safe minerals in water? Do we trust the FDA or our city reports?
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