Could you compare Schisandra Berry vs Ashwagandha?
In most cases I prefer schisandra berry to ashwagandha. Especially if you get the powder and suck on the herb. It is also known as the 5 flavor fruit because it stimulates the sweet, sour, salty, bitter, and pungent receptors of the tongue. Stimulation of these various receptors in turn stimulate the various organs and systems in the body. And schisandra is a good energy without being a central nervous system stimulant. Schisandra's polysaccharides are immune stimulatory and the herb also supports the kidneys, liver and eyes. It is rich in flavonoids, which provide various benefits including stabilization of tissues.
I tend to use ashwagandha more for adrenal support where a calming agent is also needed. Ashwagandha affects the GABA receptors in the brain giving it a mild tranquilizing effect. It is also great for the thyroid and especially stress associated hypothyroidism. It is in the nightshade family, but people with nightshade sensitivities still tolerate it really well.
Both herbs work on inflammation by strengthening the adrenals. The adrenals produce anti-inflammatory corticosteroids.
I think I need something for my immune system (and general tonic)and I'd like to choose between these two.
Schisandra is expensive, about $30 or less per pound and Ashwagandha costs about half. I'm inclined to Ashwagandha, but worried because it's a night shade family, which can be inflammatory, if I'm not mistaken.
I don't know where you are looking, but schisandra should only be about $14 to $16 a pound retail.
I ordered nettle leaf and drinking the tea for a while, but I think I can drink only small amount, because it has much iron. I am over forty and my period last only half days what it used to be.
I would not worry so much about the iron. Plant irons are not absorbed very well. Heme iron from meats is the one to worry about. And excess iron can be chelated out of the body with phytates from grains.
My health concerns include: borderline hypothyroidism,
Nettle and ashwagandha are both good for this.
general low energy,
This can have a number of causes.
various subclinical degree autoimmune issues(carpal tunnel, suspected pre diebetes).
Neither of these are autoimmune. Carpal tunnel is an overuse injury. Type 2 diabetes results from a chromium deficiency leading to a closing of the insulin receptors. Nettle is good for both conditions.
I've been managing these symptoms under control with drinking lemon juice, vit Bs and oil pulling in the morning.
As always, thank you very much.
PS. Can I take either of these with cayenne to maximize the beneficial effects?
Cayenne is also in the nightshade family. Schisandra berry has a lot of saponins, which enhance the effects of other herbs by increasing their absorption. This would be a much better choice in effectiveness and you can avoid the nightshade.
Is it still better to take Ashwagandha with cayenne than Ashwagandha alone?
I think that cayenne helps by acting as an irritant, which causes the capillaries to dilate, which in turn increases absorption. I still prefer saponins for this purpose since they are not irritants and they offer so many other benefits. But the cayenne is still fine as long as you are not nightshade sensitive.
I am researching the ashwanghda. I told someone today I was going to take it for my adrenals and they said to be careful if I am not sure if I have hashimoto's because it can make it worse. Has anyone heard of this?
Some plants, including some adaptogens, are rich in polysaccharides. These are not good to take with autoimmune conditions as they stimulate white blood cell activity. This can speed up the rate of tissue destruction. Ashwagandha though does not fall in to this category, so I think they are confusing the plant with something else. It is safe to take with Hashimoto's thyroidosis.
Also I see where you can't take it if you have an ulcer. Does anybody know why?
I don't have a clue. Ashwagandha is frequently used to treat ulcers. So I researched the claim and came up with no reasoning. All the sites saying not to use if ulcers are present just copied each other's warnings and gave no explanation of their rational.
Hveragerthi, where do you buy your Schizandra online? As the other poster mentioned it's difficult to find it cheap and $14/pound would be a steal. I'm paying $30/pound organic at mountain rose herbs which I'm sure is where the poster was referring to.
I actually buy my herbs from raw material suppliers and wholesalers that don't sell to the general public. But a few of our local health food stores sell the berries in a range of $0.89 to about $1.20 an ounce retail.
Starwest has good quality herbs and they have the schisandra powder for $9.83 per pound for the wild crafted, which I really prefer over "organic". Organic is pretty much an overpriced rip off. You are really only paying for the name. Organic items are still often irrigated with surface water, which is going to be contaminated. They have higher bacterial and fungal counts. And if they are farm raised they are not as stressed by nature, so they do not develop as high of levels of phytochemicals. Wild crafted herbs are watered from rain and snow, which is cleaner. And they have lower microbial counts due to their higher levels of phytochemicals. So I ALWAYS go with wild crafted whenever possible.
http://www.starwest-botanicals.com/category/schisandra-berries/