from my understanding it is ideal to do a liver cleanse before any fasting.. but then is mastercleanse considered a fast..

I would say that logically it should be the kidney cleanse first as the kidneys have to deal with a great amount of stress when dealing with the toxins produced by other cleanses. Some say that parasite cleanse should be done at same time in order that any dead matter can be discarded with the bowel cleanse.

I also think it might be debatable whether the Liver Flush is done before or after the bowel cleanse. If colonics are being done whilst Liver Flushing then I'd go for the flush before and after the Bowel Cleanse and 4 weekly thereafter until no more "stones" (green, red, white, black or evern chaff) are produced.

Obviousely, Liver Flushes can be done during bowel cleansing but might upset the "master cleanse" due to other ingredients needed such as apple juice and epson salts.

We all have different views and experiences and as you are already experienced you may be able to see something in my message or maybe not. I hope so

Good luck with the master cleanse.

Suzie