"I believe that the 60's may have been the switch that flipped."
There have been lots of switches. Looking back, it is clear that Lincoln's turning the country and constitution upside down when he freed the slaves on paper and condemned the states to bondage signaled the end to the vision of our forefathers - and make no mistake, that war had nothing to do with slavery other than using it as a prop, it was all about state's rights.
Some other big switches: Submitting to the international bankers and creating the privately owned Federal Reserve, the New Deal that did little other than expanding the size and scope of the Federal Government. Lyndon Johnson's Great Society . . .
But yes, from the standpoint of the general population itself, the lost promises and fallout from the 60's was a huge flipping point, when much of an entire generation rose up to protest wasting tens of thousands of lives for the sake of supporting a corrupt puppet regime and serving the profits of the military industrialist elite. Unfortunately too many good intentions without viable answers faded away in a haze of marijuana smoke, and the sixties were replaced with the Me generations just as surely as socially relevant songs that were considered anthems for a generation faded into glitz and disco about self-satisfaction. "I can't get no satisfaction" became "I can't get enough satisfaction".
Dropping out of the evils we perceived too often became dropping out of work and responsibility. Nowhere is the idea versus the reality more clearly demonstrated than all the failed communes here and in Canada whence the draft dodgers and war protesters fled. Hard to reconcile laying around getting stoned and a good days labor. And hard for those who were willing to do the work to support the stoners and slackers who wouldn't.
Of course, the flipping point of the 60's involved much more than just a bunch of hippies and ex-hippies becoming drags on society. The loss of the nuclear family, the expansion of government welfare into safety nets that became prisons which trapped generations into lives of welfare in crime filled slums and ghettos, the explosion of consumerism and the promise that each generation would be able to have more, bigger and better even as the work ethic became less.
In great part, I blame those in my generation not for dropping out so much as for failing to provide the examples of our fathers and previous generations. Looking back, though times were not always easy, we were spoiled more than we ever realized. The generations which followed, such as mine, bought into the more, bigger and better vision for us and our children. What too many of us left behind was the example of the work ethic and family values that ebodied the American dream and so did not impart the examples of hard work, moral behavior and discipline that subsequent generations have severly lacked.
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OK, InCH - ya got me there. I was not one of those young boys Pike buggered in the woods. Or maybe he didn't.
Maybe there's hope for you yet.
And actually you do have a good way of finding out, but it would require you to take a look outside the apologists propaganda and look at what non-apologists have to say, compare the two and make a judgment.
Rudenski supplied all the propaganda sites that provided all the lynch mob mentality.
In many instance I am afraid that the same cannot be said about those above the 32nd degree. I am still chilled by memories of a report from what I consider an unimpeachable source of a 33rd Degree Mason father's deathbed confession to his son. Why would a father lie to his son and warn him away from Freemasonry with descriptions of the ritual of spitting on the cross and disavowing Christ, revelations that beyond the 32nd degree the Masons worship Baal and that one of the initiation rites involved human sacrifice (they took a drunk homeless person, tied him to the railroad track and watched him be cut into by the train)? No, I was not there either - but I have no doubt that what was described was true and that it is unlikely to have been an isolated incidence. Possibly true, but not necessarily the way every 33rd degree masonic member acted. How many innocent drifters in texas was hanged from the nearest tree because they strayed across some ranchers land who had a steer killed a week or two earlier. no actual connection, but what the hey, this guys available, and a steer was lost. No reason to think he MIGHT be innocent, Right?
Hoo boy, InCh - you're leaving yourself wide open with that one, given some of the stuff you posted during the height of the debate over the election farce between the illegal alien and his old guard running mate and the designated washed up runner up and his publicity stunt running mate! Can we just agree that some of the stuff you posted was not quite irrefutable? LOL! I may have posted an article, or a video that stated one thing or another, but I personally didn't make any accusations stating my personal knowledge about someone. You do this all the time. You are free to make your own determination as to the validity of what I post. You did this with my post about the masons, then added your personal knowledge of orgies with young boys, and sacrifices by Pike. Giving somebody the benefit of the doubt isn't rocket science. You are free to think what you want, but go over the line if you state it as fact with out irrefutable proof to back it up. I certainly hope this doesn't change your mind about liking me. LOL
Not to worry - I like you just fine. I may not always agree with you, nor even agree with your style at times, but I am convinced that you are a true believer in individual liberty and health freedom.
I'd like you more if you would give a couple of sentence hints instead of just those infuriating tinyurl's.
Besides, my pops is a marine.
Semper Fi
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I may not always agree with you, nor even agree with your style at times,
You're not the first that don't like the drummer I march to. I'm stuck with him.
I'd like you more if you would give a couple of sentence hints instead of just those infuriating tinyurl's.
I did. the first link was to the first mentioned hint, (Pike). The second link referred to the (33rd degree). Chronological order to the text.
Semper Fi