sodium bicarbonate 
Vernal
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I'm wondering about this after reading Dr. Tulio Simoncini's book(well I skipped a lot)and feeling quite impressed with his treatment successes. Some people are ingesting baking soda and feeling it has helped. I would like to know if anyone knows more about sodium bicarbonate. For example I read that its best to buy a pure form from the pharmacy, as Arm & Hammer may have aluminum in it. I went to CVS(large pharmacy chain)and all they had was sodium bicarbonate capsules in a bottle for 15$, and it wasn't much of an amount by weight. Dr. Marc Sircus recommended putting like ten pounds in the bathtub. I am just beginning to learn about his work, using magnesium, and also about sodium bicarbonate. They both seem like great things because they are simple and natural, if they offer the type of benefits that are claimed. What does anyone know about these, what are your experiences(by the way I just took a bath with some Acient Mineral flakes, just purchased, so I have begun)and especially how can I buy and use sodium bicarbonate? I have a numnber of health issues, including adrenal fatigue/thyroid, weak muscle mass, depression/compulsive eating, and possibly cancer. Any info is appreciated.- Re: sodium bicarbonate Dquixote1217
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This is a reply to # 1,334,305
Baking soda can help, and I have had some positive reports, but Vernal I have to tell you that Simoncini is a self-promoter whose successs are far less than what he claims, but whose book sales and talk show appearances are doing quite nicely - the same as are any other number of people who claim they have found a unique cause and/or cure for cancer.
I have done more than a bit of research into the Italian doctor (where anyone with enough money can buy a diploma) who refuses to reveal where he went to school and who fled Italy after convictions for manslaughter and fraud.
I know that alternative practioners have a history of being persecuted and lied about, but I have also communicated with people who have seen the slick Doctor and there reports are less than kind.
I am not sure what all you have done, but I would suggest cleansing and a fast, followed by healthy and nutritious diet that is mostly raw and which includes a fasting day each week, plenty of sunshine on the skin and indirectly in the eyes (and vitamin D3 of 5000 units per day when you cannot get outside), mild to moderate exercise as you are able, removal of all chemical toxins in your home and workplace, EFT and addressing any emotional stress or past trauma, and making sure you are not deficient in any vital nutrients such as vitamins, minerals, trace minerals and especially iodine and selenium.
Take a look at my suggested anti-cancer protocol:
http://www.tbyil.com/anticancer.htm
If you do not have cancer you do not need to do all the things or as much, but there is some good basic advice there which could benefit just about anyone.
For specific problems, you might also take a look at:
http://www.tbyil.com/remedies.htm
But please do not go overboard and just try to take gobs of supplements. First try the general approach and always keep in mind good health starts with a good foundation. Without it, all the supplements in the world may be of no avail.
Such an approach will help correct a great many problems.
DQ
- Re: sodium bicarbonate Vernal
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This is a reply to # 1,334,351Thank you for your reply. You are one of the sources I most respect here, though I am still trying to sort out the mass of often conflicting information from various people, many of whom seem quite respectful on the surface. For example, your take on Dr. Simoncini is disappointing, and reminds me that I am often naive. I did see him speak at the Cancer Convention in Los Angeles, where he received a a standing ovation. Also, some people stood up and said that he had saved their lives. Does this mean that he does save some, but that there is also a high failure rate?
As for me and what I'm doing: Over two years ago I became sick and couldn't get out of bed for two days, except for trips to the toilet with diarrhea. I researched my symptoms and eventually concluded low thyroid and adrenal fatigue. Saliva testing showed very low cortisol level in the morning and much of the day, was later treated by a doctor with synthroid and am now on one grain of armour thyroid. I took 40 mg. of hyrdrocortisone for one year and weaned myself off it. I regret having taken it but could not work at the time without it.
Then I suddenly was unable to reach orgasm during sexual intercourse, and later was told by an urologist that I had a blockage in my prostate. He said if it didn't go away to return to him. It didn't but I didn't go back as I did not want a biopsy. I went six months without any kind of erection at all, even in the night or morning. I began Budwig Protocol, about sixty percent, then added apricot kernal seeds, up to 45 a day(I weigh 230)and two months later the blockage was gone in prostate and erections with orgasms returned. Also I went two months without Depression which was a common problem before. A Navarro test was 53, indicating cancer, done early in my new diet. Unfortunately I vistied family and an ex and completely reversed the healthy lifestyle, gaining forty pounds in two months. Now I have one week back on Budwig, and am determined to live well. I believe your suggestions are very good, but on Budwig it is hard to mix and match some of it. She highly recommends buckwheat and millet, for example, and of course the cottage cheese/flaxoil combination. I do get my sun and am currently exercising perhaps too much, as it I am overweight and also it helps my mood.
I am sorry if this is too long...one more question: What do you think of Dr. Marc Sircus and his book on Magnesium Transdermal therapy?
Any input is highly appreciated. I am 53 yr. old, currently not employed so lack ofmoney is becoming a source of anxiety, but am trying to do what is healthy and having faith that I can take care of that later. But I am making few purchases and trying to choose what is most effective and efficient. Thank you for all the work yhou do and the help you give at curezone.- Cancer in the Digestive Track ONLY snowman
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This is a reply to # 1,334,716Oral sodium bicarbonate will only have an effect on cancers in the digestive track. To effect other cancers someone would have to open you up or inject the sodium bicarbonate directly into the tumor.
Paul Winter
Ten years researching alternative cancer
Webmaster for http://alternativecancer.us/
- WHat about Prostate Northstar
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This is a reply to # 1,334,752Do you think this would be effective injecting this directly into the Prostate Gland? The only problem finding a clinic to perform this.
- Re: WHat about Prostate patientadvocate
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This is a reply to # 1,336,057Injecting anything experimental into the prostate is going to be impossibility in traditional medical arena.
Urologist have done other injections but if you can't find a urologist to inject a simple Antibiotic into prostate for chronic prostate infections how are you going to get him to inject anything else?
An oncologist? You might find some that will inject non-approved substances into prostate, they are protected by compassionate exemptions and have greater powers to experiment with individual cancer patients.
Mayo clinic, with other cancers, have taken this direct application of chemo/meds to tumor sites using surgical procedures and have much better success than systemic treatments.
Also, photodynamic therapy is being used by some cancer centers and I might be wrong but I think they do this on prostates.
The idea of sodium bicarb, in theory, is a step in the right direction. Raising intra cellular ph will decrease pain, slow the spread of cancer. However, typically sodium does not cross over cancer cell membranes because it is a weak electron attractor by virtue of its molecular weight, (according to some scientists,) so personally, I would seek out heavier metalic salts if alkaline therapy is your goal, (raising ph.)
By far the heaviest metalic salts are rhubidium and cesium chloride.
Bret
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- Re: sodium bicarbonate Dquixote1217
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This is a reply to # 1,334,716
I recommend Budwig very highly, but I disagree with the zeolots who think you cannot combine it.
If you are on a budget, as many of us are, I will note that you can make your own oleander extract for mere pennies and that the common spice curcumin (turmeric) is very potent against a wide variety of cancers in doses of around 3000 mg per day combined with 10 mg of bioperine or else common ground black pepper and perhaps a bit of coconut oil.
Regardless of what else you do, practice a healthy mostly raw diet combined with Budwigs flaxseed/cottage cheese, get plenty of sunshine and fresh air, and use EFT and other techniques (such as yoga) to address emotional issues and stress.
Liver cleansing and protecting and regenerating the liver is a must - and the items needed to do so are pretty inexpensive. You can detox yourself from metals with cilantro and chlorella. Unyquity here at CZ makes a wonderful cayenne pepper tincture that I use daily and it costs but a pittance.
A diet where you have one day a week of fasting will help a lot, particularly if you alternate fasting days of water only, then dark grapes (concord are probably best) WITH grapeseeds (eat as many as you like but nothing else but water on the fasting day, and a fasting day of only juiced vegetables.
Trapper has an awesome potassium iodine he makes (SSKI) which should be combined with selenium (methylselenocysteine is the best form for fighting cancer). I urge anyone with cancer to include that in their protocol.
The habanero pepper, oil and crushed garlic on healthy bread suggested by Kelly Eidom is also very affordable.
I realize that all the items I suggest in my protocol can add up - though they are a relative pittance compared to mainstream drugs and treatment, but you can do many very effective things and stay within a fairly small budget.
Ultimately, it may be a question of can you NOT afford to do what you need to beat and prevent cancer and regain optimum health.
I pretty agree with Paul Winters and MadArtist (and gave both of them good votes) - baking soda is only effective for cancers from the throat through the digestive system and to the rectum.
All the best,
DQ
- Re: sodium bicarbonate longnow
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This is a reply to # 1,334,716Try checking out Dr Mercola online. If you get access to any kind
of funds contact Dr Allen Pressman Phd CCN using the info on his website.
He can do telephone consultations & work with any doctors. You
can ask him about Somoncini's "cures" and about Sircus.
Mark Sircus' book on Transdermal Mg is excellent. He himself is not
so impressive when you hear him being interviewed. There is an
interview online if you google his name. The interview is with
Dr Pressman and this got me started on Mg Chloride.
The reason I mention Pressman is b/c he is unique. He has 45 yrs
experience and is very very sharp in his seventies. You can
listen to his radio program in NYC on his website. He sponsors
his own show which means he pushes his own vitamins but he is
FAR from anything you will hear elsewhere.
One other thing, there is a website called Young Again. He sells
cheap supplements and he is very knowledgeable. Check out
what he recommends for prostate cancer. His politics are out
of this world and do not reflect well and best taken with a grain
of salt and the same with his picture. Again, his supplements
work and he has a dietary protocol that works on prostate cancer.
His books are online and free.
- Cancer in the Digestive Track ONLY snowman
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- Re: sodium bicarbonate Vernal
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- Re: sodium bicarbonate MadArtist
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This is a reply to # 1,334,305You've gotten excellent advise from great people.
I am posting this for your review, in case you are still curious about the source.
Best of luck to you.
Here's a source for aluminum free baking soda:
http://www.bobsredmill.com/product.php?productid=3607&cat=106&page=1
and a link to a write up of all different protocols in "Cancer Tutor" including the baking soda & Vitamin C ( I am sure you have visited but posted it just the same just in case.)
Vitamin C and Baking Soda (about $15 a month) (Vitamin C and Baking Soda)
Very Important Note: USE ONLY baking soda which is stated to be "aluminum free" (e.g. Bob's Red Mill Baking Soda) OR use pharmaceutical grade baking soda.
This is an absolutely superb cancer treatment. It is mainly designed for people who have cancer of the digestive tract: including everything from throat cancer to colon cancer, rectal cancer, or colorectal cancer and cancer of the small intestines.
Conflicts With Other Treatments
Do NOT take this protocol if you are the Budwig Diet.
Do NOT take this protocol if you are taking Protocel(R), Entlev(R), Paw Paw, or graviola (including Amazon Factor Protocol).
Very Important Note
The baking soda portion of this treatment should not be used for more than three weeks at a time. During the first week no more than two TEAspoons a day of baking soda should be taken orally. During the second and third week no more than one TEAspoon a day of baking soda should be taken orally. Only under the care of a medical practitioner should these maximum internal doses be exceeded.
For skin cancers and other external cancers (inlcuding a rectal enema), where the baking soda solution comes into direct contact with the cancer, this restriction does not apply.
Vitamin C
This protocol creates a mineral ascorbate version of Vitamin C, which is vastly different than normal Vitamin C, which is designated as "ascorbic acid."
Mineral ascorbates, such as sodium ascorbate, potassium ascorbate, calcium ascorbate, etc. are much more effective at getting utilized by the cells. The cells better utilize both the mineral and the Vitamin C content in the mineral ascorbate.
It was mineral ascorbates which cured polio in the 1940s. Mineral ascorbates have been used to cure or treat many different diseases.
Mixing baking soda with ascorbic acid will create sodium ascorbate and carbon dioxide. However, by mixing the baking soda with mineral ascorbates, more of the baking soda is available to help treat the cancer. The Simoncini treatment, developed by an oncologist in Italy, is a classic baking soda treatment for cancer:
Dr. Simoncini Baking Soda Treatment for Cancer
Baking soda, by itself, is a potent treatment for cancer, especially cancers of the digestive tract, starting from the throat all the way to the end of the small intestines.
For cancers outside of the digestive tract, baking soda is not as effective because much of it is neutralized by the acids in the digestive tract.
In this treatment the baking soda is used to treat any cancer of the digestive tract and the mineral ascorbates are used to treat the cancer throughout the body.
Here is the highly recommended Vitamin C vendor:
Excellent Buffered Vitamin C Product (high in mineral ascorbates)
Baking Soda
After the Vitamin C has dissolved, add one teaspoon of baking soda.
USE ONLY baking soda which is stated to be "aluminum free" (e.g. Bob's Red Mill Baking Soda) OR use pharmaceutical grade baking soda.
Bob's Red Mill Baking Soda can be purchased at many health food stores and even some grocery stores with a health food section. Or it can be purchased online.
Here is an example of a pharmaceutical grade baking soda:
http://www.newdirectionsaromatics.com/sodium-bicarbonate-usp-1-p-558.html
The Mixture
First, put a quality brand of powdered or crystal Vitamin C in a glass of distilled water. Start at about 1 gram, but build up to 5 grams twice a day, once in the morning and once in the evening. If you get diarrhea you are building up too fast.
Within two or three days after starting you should be taking 5 grams of Vitamin C (mostly mineral ascorbates) with 1 teaspoon of baking soda twice a day.
Cells can't distinguish the difference between Vitamin C and glucose because they are almost identical. Thus cancer cells quickly grab the mineral ascorbates.
Once inside of cancer cells, it is thought that the Vitamin C is used to make hydrogen peroxide. It may be the hydrogen peroxide so created that actually kills cancer cells.
When Sugar levels in the blood are low, Vitamin C is more readily taken in by cancer cells. Thus, when taking this treatment stay on a strict, very low glucose cancer diet.
Warning: Taking too high of a dose of Vitamin C can cause kidney damage. Do not take doses higher than triple the recommended doses in this article without consulting a health professional.
Note: This treatment should not be used as a primary treatment for cancer except for cancers of the digestive tract. However, it is a superb supplemental treatment for any type of cancer.
Here is an article on this protocol:
http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer02/VitC_BSoda.html
Note: specifically states not to use along with Budwig
Full link: http://www.cancertutor.com/faq/faq_inexpensive.html
- Re: sodium bicarbonate destinedtoberevealed
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This is a reply to # 1,334,781Please note all sodium bicarbonate except for a pharmaceutical grade have trace amounts of aluminum(usually naturally occuring) including that from Bob's or Mountain house.Anyone who finds a 100 % pure source please let me know?
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- Re: sodium bicarbonate knowledge seeker
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This is a reply to # 1,334,781does it greatly hurt to use regular arm and hammer baking soda. I bought several boxes before i heard to use only aluminum free and hate to buy more as my treatment dollars very limited,''also if one is only doing the flax oil and cottage cheese part of the budwig are you saying don't use the baking soda maple syrup with it?
thanks
note I have triple negative Breast Cancer and trying to treat it naturally (refused chemo) on a small low income budget- Re: sodium bicarbonate has no alumin... wellnessyoga
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This is a reply to # 2,236,027Unfortunately there is a widespread misunderstanding on the internet which causes a lot of confusion, but here is no aluminum in baking soda ( bicarbonate of soda), only in baking powder!
I use Arm and Hammer baking soda all the time internally.
Here is a link that explains it, but you can also do a google search.
http://preventdisease.com/news/14/111814_Once-And-For-All-Baking-Soda-Does-Not-Have-Aluminum.shtml
Wishing you much health!- Re: sodium bicarbonate has no alumin... knowledge seeker
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This is a reply to # 2,241,983wellnessyoga..you have helped me very much with that link. Not only in clearing up the question of aluminum but dosing.
I had thought a got arm and hammer at aldis (got 4 boxes) at only about 50 cents s box but when I got home saw it was a lookalike brand but said 100% baking soda like the article stated.
I was trying this but very confused on the dosing and if one takes more if overweight.
This gave a clear schedule of how much to take and what one is looking or.
Cancer lives in an acidic environment so trying to alkalize. Even if I ate 85 or 90% produce I was not only acidic but lighter and therefore lower on the scale than even the most acidic color when testing with litmus paper..for several years nothing changed the paper color at all no saliva nor urine made a change.
I thought maybe the paper was bad. Your post prompted me to check as a few days ago (I have ben on it maybe 10 days or so at one teas a day and once did two teaps but not being sure of right dose stayed at one teasp with the maple syrup and I saw the paper turn more green so this reminded me to check it and it was now olive and 6.6 I was under 5.5 it seems I need it to go to normal at 7.2 and then to 8 to 8.5 for five days.
So it seems it is actually working to make me more acidic. I am hoping now that you gave me the link listing the days to stay on each dose to go to 2 tsp and see if that furthers it going in the direction I want.
I am so happy as is is the first tangible sign despite being on a number of things that something good is going on in my body that may stop any spread and kill the cells.
Ir also assures me the cheaper baking soda I got is working as it changed the color on the check chart..this is helpful for someone like me on a very low income. The only thing cheaper I found that is supposed to kill cancer is water /sea salt in the Water Cure .
This makes me feel better and that maybe if I intensify my program and stay the course I will not die like they said. I can't wait to prove everyone wrong especially the doctors and relatives who think I am crazy f not doing whatever the doctors tell me but for triple negative Breast Cancer they don't really have a cure and natural healing better but I would not do chemo no matter what kind of cancer I had..it is bad news and can permanently destroy the brain and major organs.
Thanks again. i love this site and the people on here.this is really the only support for going natural i have found in person,. support groups, or online. I hope this site and the tons of valuable info on it are never destroyed.
I have added a lot of help and info to this site for others especially in the kidney dialysis and Dr Schulze section and I appreciator all those who share their knowledge, info, support and being there fort one another. This is a noble pursuit an what we share will be there for others
long after we are gone, God willing.
Let me also thank the site for not allowing skeptics to come on here and ruin the sight and info and cast doubt and keeping that relegated to Debate Forums . Good job, curezone..and anyone who will, please prayer for my recovery from cancer, diabetes and other ills If you want to as I want to do better this time around in changing-diet and thinking and also continue to help others.
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