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All opinions are respected here but this is not a religious debate forum. This is a NDE Support forum.
Religious Debates should be carried here> //www.curezone.org/forums/f.asp?f=465
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,316,857With all respect moderator 7, they may have appeared to be "religeous debate" when taken out of context but if you follow this forum they are completely in line with NDE. The main subject was a character in Rudy's NDE called the Librarian. We were discussing his possible identity. No one was angry with one another I feel that all those posts being erased was unnecessary. It isn't the first time the subject has come up. NDE's by their nature are usually full of religeous undertones. It is imposible to fully discuss them without talking about the imagery they contain. After all. many NDE's have visions of heaven, God, etc. I don't see how you could separate them.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,316,895Marjory (and moderator)
I sent the moderator a similar post in response to his silly not well though out restriction,
If he/she persists I will leave the forum, and anyway this restriction will kill the forum anyway
I do not appreciate this childish show of power!!
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This is a reply to # 1,317,008Alan (& Moderator),
Maybe the Librarian complained, Ha Ha. No fallen spirits allowed, anonymous or otherwise! I can't think of anyone that was actively in the discussion who would complain. Maybe it was someone who wanted to be but wasn't so they were frustrated. I think anyone who is familiar with NDE's knows it is impossible to separate religion from it. The beings people see and who speak use religious terms. Many people are shown heaven and have a description of it. Not all NDE's are religious, but many are. If you restrict religion from the forum, it loses the the whole of its meaning. God shows himself often in these NDE's.
I think having a religious and non religious NDE forum is kind of stupid. I think in this matter, even with the TOS in place, that freedom of speech is an issue.
Marjorie- Re: This is a NDE Support Forum strangeme
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This is a reply to # 1,317,056Marjory, (AND Moderator)
These "little people" with a tiny mount of authority from time to time like to show their power and interfere with a smooth running of friendly forum like this one. Sort of throwing grit into a gearbox. This forum at the moment have only a few active members and this removal of posts is inexcusable,
I could just leave it at that , unsubscribe and go elsewhere , as I am a valuable as
I am a valuable senior other similar forums, but feel before I do this I will take pursue if further and insist the moved posts be returned to their rightful place.
If there is no agreement on this I will invite members on this forum to leave it and join me on another forum
And I will remove every thread, post and topic that I have posted on this forum , as they are still my words and personal property.
Alan
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This is a reply to # 1,316,895One of the privileges of posters who agree with the Terms Of Service of CureZone.com is the free use of all Support Forums and Debate Forums . Those who have posted their subjective opinions in the NDE Support Forum have suggested that the conversations that began as their own personal and subjective opinions had turned into a religious debate. Other posters were concerned that the anonymity privilege of their posts had been challenged. The threads in question about the Librarian and the anonymity of posters have been moved to the Religion Debate Forum. //www.curezone.org/forums/f.asp?f=465
This will leave posters in the NDE Support Forum a safe and supportive place to express subjective and sometimes anonymous opinions about NDE's.
Debaters in the current discussion have challenged the anonymity privilege of those who wanted to remain anonymous. Anonymity makes posters who might not ever have expressed their subjective opinions about a wide range of subjects feel safe to post those opinions in Support Forums at CureZone.com. Debate Forums are places that are particularly appropriate for debating the right of posters to post their subjective opinions in an anonymous way.
The number one rule in the terms of service or TOS in Debate Forums is to "challenge the message and not the messenger." If the posters of the moved threads choose to debate in the Religion Debate Forum then that is also their privilege as well. It is also up to those who want to refrain from debating if they so choose.
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This is a reply to # 1,317,014Agreed moderator, but I never challenged the anonymity of any participant, just asked them to use an assumed name. I don't like debating with a number.
And politeness is required before moving a persons posts elsewhere, they should be informed as to why, as you are doing now.
This thing about free use of the forum is also silly, there are many many very active very free forums all over the internet and in this the Cure Zone forum is nothing special.
Did you contact Rudy a long time faithful member of the forum before moving his posts?? I must look or mine??.
I took another look at all my posts on this forum, and using your logic at least 90% of them should be removed, I feel the urge to do exactly that!!
His Librarian has nothing to do with any religion is is based on a subjective experience with a dark mind during his NDE. And many of we NDE have experienced this entity, albeit we all give it different names
Have you had a NDE ???
I see all this as unnecessary interference in what was an active friendly forum now it will die a early death to the one stroke of your unthoughtful pen
Remember the Saying "If it ain't broke don't fix it?"
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This is a reply to # 1,317,020Hi Alan,
So someone said their anonimity was challenged? We never do that. You sometimes request that they pick a real anonymous name, not their real name, because you don't like talking to #'s. They generally ignore you, lol. It is no big deal.
I hope that this only happened with this thread because of whoever happened by and we can continue on as always. If not, we will meet at another forum. The shame of it all is that I felt it was the first time we had made any headway on that subject.
I guess this will end up on the webmaster's forum, geeze
Love
Marjorie
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This is a reply to # 1,317,020Hey Alan,
I can not say how you process your NDE but for me I have to be very quiet and still to hear the sound in my spirit. When the sound becomes brassy and loud then I know the thoughts I am hearing are my own thoughts. I need that quiet stillness and I need to feel safe to expose what is barely more audible than the sound of the beating of angel's wings. The debate about the Librarian may be interesting and thought provoking but to me it was brassy and failed to reveal spirit. I enjoy debating politics and religion but I always considered my NDE to be sacred. I never even went back and changed the terrible grammar.
I saw one aspect of God in my NDE that I didn't like. You call him Satan and I call him a Librarian or God. I am certain that there are 6 billion interpretations of what I saw. I am not saying that my truth is any more relevant than your truth but I kept posting my truth here in Curezone for the last five years because it rarely turned into a debate. I have had dozens of emails and spoken to hundreds of people who have written to me or spoken to me about how the reading of my NDE has given them some comfort for the reading of it. When the debate began, I no longer felt that this place was a safe place to post revelations I get in the quiet stillness in the same space as the debate.
I hope that you keep posting your wonderful revelations drom your NDE as I am certain that your words are a comfort to hundreds more people. I would have hoped though that those with NDE's could just give each other enough room to allow for more than one interpretation without it turning into a raging debate.
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This is a reply to # 1,317,074Hi Ruddee,
Although I'm not Alan, I am guilty of making conversation about your NDE yesterday too. I didn't realize it would be distressing to you or I wouldn't have. I thought ately you had been despondent, and maybe it would help to bring out the positive side of the Librarisan if he clearly wasn't God but Satan. (meaning he was actually powerless unless we allowed otherwise)
But, I don't think that is who he was to you, so certainly seeing your NDE contorted into something you didn't say or feel was hard on you. In the future I willl refreain from trying to interpret your NDE and just enjoy it instead, as it was beautiful. I am also very sorry we discussed it at a time when you were just getting the courage (for lack of a better word, as you are courageous) to think sbout sharing it with the world. Please don't let our discussion yesterday stop that!
No hard feelings, I understand,
Blessings Forever....
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This is a reply to # 1,317,101I apologize for being sensitive about my NDE. I know it is not "The Truth" but rather "My Truth." Many people have NDE's and never meet a God at all or meet whatever being that is in their mythology. I believe that somehow God or whatever we call what we experience on the other side makes our NDE's fit us for our learning. I needed the lessons that my NDE gave me just as the Bhuddist NDE experiencer needed to see her Buddah. Whatever it is out there in the great place beyond this life is so full of love for those who seek that love that it is beyond comprehension. I don't know where to go from here but I hope it is not your absence from the discussion.
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This is a reply to # 1,317,147Respectfully Rudy are you the moderator?
If so please don't remove any of your posts, we were all debating in a friendly way and no one dismissed your concept of the Librarian. Existence is unimaginably complex and we all perceive it in our own personal unique way.
Even in the here and now each moment is unique and perceived uniquely by each person, think of of plane crash, I here a loud noise and rush out to see what it is all about, I see nothing and just hear the sound getting quieter and quieter until I dismiss it and go back to doing whatever I was doing at the moment.
But your home is a few miles from mine your whole house shakes and right over the road there is a colossal explosion. You have actually seen nothing just heard the destruction.
If we were to write down exactly our accounts they would differ so much from each other that any one reading them would never connect them to the same event
In this way no two NDE are ever identical and one can only record the truth as one has perceived it at the time
You are a very special person, I know you do not only talk the talk, but you walk the walk, in you altruistic work with the blind and disabled
Alan
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This is a reply to # 1,317,074Rudy,
I am angered by the moderator moving your threads about the Librarian , as it is part and parcel of your NDE. HE/SHE must bring these moved posts back, and stop interfering with the smooth running of this friendly forum
I am very interested and uplifted by your wisdom, knowledge and experience, in both worldly and ethereal realms.
I would never dismiss the Librarian as some sort of a delusion, I had an encounter with this entity, and struggled for a long time to understand exactly what it was.
It did not reveal to me it was the Devil, I just used this term for it.Also some say the Devil is the fallen angel Lucifer, but Jesus said the Devil was liar from the beginning and no truth is found in him and he is dark without light.
The bible in Isaiaih states that lucifer was perfect in all his ways,so it contradicts the statement of Jesus
It also made me think that there might be two Gods a God of Light and a God of darkness.
I even wrote a short story based on this.
There is a religion based on exactly this belief . Zoroastrianism, one form of this belief Avesta Says existence is a duality of good and evil forces with the God of goodness just slightly more powerful that the god of evil. Perhaps you can do a web search on that unless you are aware of it already- Re: This is a NDE Support Forum (Fro... UserX
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This is a reply to # 1,317,789But Alan, it was Rudy who didn't like the way we were talkin about his NDE. I don't know why the moderators brought up religion. But, if he has problems with us interpreting the Librarian, I think we should let it be. Did you read his post about it?
We can post about our own and others. Did you read the one about Howard Storm, yet? It is really inspiring. Refreshed had heard of it and she added a much longer and better account of his experience. Check it out.
I don't think the mods will complain unless they get a complaint from us. I asked Rudy to contact one of us if he has a problem next time. I think it'd be best if we all do that if there's a problem. What do you think?
Marjorie
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This is a reply to # 1,317,821Marjory,
I did not read the Howard Storms testimony as I have read it sometime ago on another forum, I will have a re-look at it. I agree we should not dispute Rudies Librarian, but of course he must not be restrained by us or anyone else and be free to bring up the subject, if he wants to and perhaps we should read what he says and give more positive replies to him.
It is his belief and we should respect that
Love
Alan
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This is a reply to # 1,316,857Respectfully Moderator I disagree you in the strongest terms, one can not separate religious thinking from the NDE phenomenon, there is always a spill over.
This sort of unnecessary restriction on meaningful debate and sharing ideas angers me, and "if you persist with this restriction , I will leave the forum pronto"
I am a member of other NDE forums , who do not have this silly restiction
Heck man!! we need freedom of ideas even of a NDE forum , there is just so much one can speak about the NDE.
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This is a reply to # 1,317,005This thread will be moved to the Webmaster Debate Forum after the opinions of all who want to debate the right of a moderator to move threads to the debate forum have been expressed here. //www.curezone.org/forums/f.asp?f=264
Any abuse of "power" by any moderator can also be debated there.- Re: This is a NDE Support Forum UserX
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This is a reply to # 1,317,022Moderators, I would like a list of words or terms you expect to stay out of the NDE forum please.
Thank You
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