Is Cutler's "science" legitimate? 
ilove80s
16 y
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Hi - after reading through Cutler's books "Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment", and "Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities" - I am ambivalent. I mean - my initial reaction was one of hope that his research/knowledge was a wonderful beacon of hope that I may have discovered the answer to my devastating troubles. But now, some skepticism has crept in about the overall validity of his publications. The books are chock full of info that is so unique - plus the sheer volume and format of the presented information "read" like it is possibly the arbitrary ramblings of a quack. Reading these books causes me to wonder how Cutler, and Cutler alone, figured all of this stuff out. Either he is an amazing genius or a wacko quack!
The concepts of "deranged mineral transport" and the different set of "rules" he came up with to identify deranged mineral transport seem especially random and arbitrary. How did he scientifically verify that there is a such thing as "deranged mineral transport"? And it seems as though there are enough "rules" that define deranged mineral transport that pretty much EVERYONE would be covered - that is, everyone would quite probably have a test result that meets one or more of the required rules for deranged mineral transport.
Don't get me wrong: I have no personal agenda, no personal motive to discredit Cutler's work. I am just someone who is trying hard not to get suc***ed in by a "rainbow" of pseudoscience. To take the steps necessary to undergo Amalgam removal would mean *tremendous* effort and sacrafice on my part - and I want to be sure that my struggles would be based on something much more solid than flawed pseudoscience or an elaborate money-making scheme.
So can anyone provide any proof that Cutler's work is legit, and scientifically-sound?
- Re: Is Cutler's "science" legitimate... #106151
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This is a reply to # 1,282,867I have observed three types of individuals in medicine - competent professionals that are genuinely trying to help others, incompetent professionals that are tyring to help others, and fraudulent types. Probably many of the folks you label "quack" are mainly in the second category.
I have Cutler's book on Amalgam illness. I don't have the hair test, and I dont need it. I ended up completely disabled from mercury toxicity and associated complications. Using Cutler's methods, I am back to work, and regaining my health.
Mercury, an extremely powerful neurotoxin, can cause problems at any exposure level - especially for retentive/sensitive types of people. My family doctor does not have a test he can run to make a diagnosis, therefore like most doctors he will not treat a disease he cannot put a code on. Cutler has taken an almost invisible and insidious disease, identified it, classified it's characteristics and created a cure. Since you have read the book, I suggest you look over the ways he instructs to reach a diagnosis. If you are mercury poisoned, then you will want to read up on the supplements section next. I can tell you from first hand experience, this is the most definitive source available for a supplement program that addresses the mercury toxic person - and it works. If you are mercury toxic, you will consider Andy a real friend once you are on the road to improvement.
Good Luck!
- Re: Is Cutler's "science" legitimate... ilove80s
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This is a reply to # 1,286,711Thanks for your reply standout4u. Believe it or not, I was hoping to see positive responses expressing that this protocol has worked for them (as long as the response is genuine and truthful - which yours seems to be). But I am a bit discouraged that there weren't more responses that put forth a case for Cutler's legitimacy - especially since this is a board full of people who are apparently following the protocol (or are thoroughly exploring it).
- Re: Is Cutler's "science" legitimate... #207032
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This is a reply to # 1,294,721I know this post is very old and chelation research has certainly progressed since. I can understand one's doubts about ANdy Cutler and he certainly has become followed by many as the "expert" in the field, and his protocol as "the only safe way to chelate". What disturbs me most about his protocol is all the problems that are created, for years sometimes. Many have to stop and never finish the protocol, and what does this say about it? His followers seem like die-hard believers though, will argue AC's stance to the death, and refuse to look elsewhere or consider anything else in spite of the grief created by the protocol. I don't understand it. There are many dangers that can come up in chelating, using a more green approach or using ACC, either way. Sometimes, if problems aren't obviously heavy metals, or significant, I'd be tempted to leave well enough alone than take risks and create a host of other health issues on the supposed "road to recovery". Some people read the chelation info and become obsessed with it as a perceived problem. Mind and thought can also provoke ill health as beautifully as it can promote good health. Just something to consider...
I know for certain though that I am not the only one who doubts or questions Andy Cutler as the "go to" chelation expert. I've learned not to argue with his followers because of the cult like loyalty.
- Re: Is Cutler's "science" legitimate... joegrane
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This is a reply to # 2,306,884Lots of bluster, no substance in your post.
What are you questioning, the lack of $ for doctors who do costly IV chelation on their patients?
//www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=2255067
also dmpsbackfire.com
Maybe you should be questioning or at least more closely examining the reports of adverse reactions. For example, this member claimed to be using Cutler's protocol but he was skipping night time doses. Cutler warns that the member's symptoms can occur when people skip night time doses!
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1007420#i
I've come across plenty of people who were getting strange side effects while chelating. I can't tell you how many times the person was not taking generous amounts of antioxidants--Vitamin C and E--or were chelating with Amalgam still present under a crown or who were taking excessively high doses. Many links are included at the end of my post.
Some of the worst adverse reports I've come across have been from those who used cilantro. Apparently it contains something that can move mercury across the blood-brain barrier and into the brain.
http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/Chelation_products.html#chlorella
Kicking up heavy metals can be wonderfully helpful when done safely and carefully. These two people expressed well the experiences often reported by people with a mercury problem.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/111235
http://howirecovered.com/meet-patti-who-recovered-from-mercury-poisoning/
There are many progress reports here.
http://cutlersuccessstories.weebly.com/
However the effects of kicking up heavy metals can be quite nasty when done carelessly and aggressively.
I bet the mice in the Gregus study that received ALA unsafely would not have been healthier even though they excreted more mercury than the untreated mice. The treated mice ended up with *more* Hg in the brain and organs! Cutler explains here.
http://onibasu.com/archives/am/74605.html
300mg ALA 2x/day while I still had amalgams....from really-sick-but-functioning to completely disabled, in just 6 months http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/24221
KellyB. "...took 50 mg of ALA once per day for months...while I had Amalgams in, during the removal process, and even after they were removed....I have suffered tremendously because of this. My health deteriorated rapidly - MCS, extreme food intolerances , depression, anxiety, etc."
100 mg ALA in a multivitamin for 10 days. "...caused me to feel anxious, weak, fatigue. My head is held captive to these heavy metals. I want my own brain back so I can think and function..."
[ thankfully this person has slowly recovered quite nicely from the setback but it has taken more than two years of Cutler protocol detox. ]
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/86406
20mg ALA in the weeks after Amalgam removal. "...has given me the worst severe burning brain for 2 days straight, along with extreme burning muscle pain and weakness all over."
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/96458
R-Lipoate w/ hidden Amalgam //www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2027011
...I took close to 200 different powerful herbs, and nutraceuticals including R-lipoate. It was at the end of that 5 month period, that I begin to get severe jaw pain around the rotten tooth ( the one that I did not know had an Amalgam in it). It was around this time that I essentially had chronic fatigue and anterograde amnesia set in. It was a profound, rapid, failure of my health, I went from ...going to college full time, to just being debilitated.
ALA 600 mg 3x a day + NAC 1200mg x 2 a day. "... have severe ringing in my ears, brain fog, funny taste in mouth , headaches, blurred vision, memory problems and having difficulty functioning...stopped 8 days ago ...but it did not go away-- also head aches..." http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/306306
200mg in B Complex w/ amalgam present. "I had daily headaches.... I had the weirdest tingling sensation in my face going EXACTLY from the tooth ... up into my cheekbone."
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/113243
300 mg ALA, 2x/day. "...improvements in peripheral neuropathy ...then developed worse neurological symptoms…” http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/42684
- Re: Is Cutler's "science" legitimate... ifigureditout2
8 y
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,306,886Yep, I ate a bunch of cilantro before I knew my health problems were mercury based. Makes you feel amazing at first as it starts pulling mercury out of tissues. But the half life is unknown so you pull it out a ways and then it just redistributes somewhere else. Your insides almost literally become a slow mercury pinball machine. Before that I didn't have food allergies and I had enough energy to do things. I'm now on round 22 20mg DMPS and finally getting some energy back and my food sensitivities are nearly gone. I'm not good about taking the four supplements (forgetful) so I only increase my dose 2.5mg at a time so that I don't need the extra support as much.
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- Re: Is Cutler's "science" legitimate... ilove80s
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- Re: Is Cutler's "science" legitimate... #106151
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