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I finally got around to juicing a tray of my own wheatgrass. I got twelve ounces of juice. I juiced the whole thing because I wanted to see how much juice I could get out of one tray. I knew better than to try and drink twelve ounces all at once. The most I've ever had at any one time is one ounce. So I downed four ounces followed by lots of water. I really can't stand the taste. Soon after drinking the juice I started to feel nauseous. This lasted about three hours. I also had to make several trips to the bathroom. Not a pleasant experience to say the least.
So did I drink too much? Is this normal? What's the most I should drink at any one time? How do I get past the horrible taste? Should I mix it with other juice? I also can't stand the smell.
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- Re: Nausea? grassman
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,272,842Welcome to the detox club,to much to fast to soon.Been there done that and lived to repeat it and wonder why.Getting the grass juice down is something you can experiment with.I find mixing grass juice just makes the other juice taste bad.Once you get your system clean the detox symptoms will dissapear but the taste remains bad.I would suggest growing some sunflower and buckwheat as far as palatability goes.Congrats on the high yield did you take any pictures of the flat?
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This is a reply to # 1,273,185We like to mix two to four ounces with a half gallon of water, then adding to taste, any fruit or vegtable juice, up to a quart or more. It makes a tonic that lasts for a day or so and since there is no fiber in the added fruit juice , its not a problem to mix. Drinking a glass every hour or two is a great routine.
Not to be argumentative but Ive found that after cleansing ones system, straight grass juice tastes great. The sickeningly sweet naueasous aspect changes, thus our take has always been that the smell of grass juice or evan a new mown lawn reveals how congested we are or not. ( interesting that this is also our response on more than a physical level, to more complete representations of reality )
I still think when it is diluted it is more available to ones system tho. You can feel it permeating throughout in a different way than when taken straight .Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 1,273,346Thanks for the help, guys!
Here's some pics of my wheatgrass:
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BTW, it looks like I'm having a small problem with mold. I've been hitting the grass with food grade H202 but I'm still getting a little mold. I think I might be using too much water. I've only been watering the grass once per day. Not sure if I should water the grass until the water starts to run through the bottom of the tray?- Re: Pics. grassman
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This is a reply to # 1,273,689Awesome nicely done thick uniform growth and a high yield.It dosent get much better than that now if we could only make it taste like milk chocolate.Watering too much not enough that is the million dollar question of growing.
- Re: Pics. snow-runner
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This is a reply to # 1,273,857Maybe my experience could be in help:
1. ) I found no mold problem if I use unhulled barley seeds
I do not soak these seeds as I am doing with wheatgrass seeds
2.) In case of wheatgrass I put seeds ( these seeds are hulled ) in the
3% H2O2 (Hydrogen-Peroxid) ( food grade ) for one day on soaking.
Then another day into water just to coe out small sprouts.
After that I put seeds onto soil.
In case of wheatgrass I put no soil on top of seeds.
In case of barley I gently put thiny level of soil on top of seeds
3. Once the green sprouts come out from the soil I am started to
use organic moisture aditive to water ( from algae ). Every second day at the
morning. Till then I use pure water.
And only at the beginning I add EM-organisms to the water.
Since I am practicing those steps in procedure I have no mold problem.
Last year at this time I had a lot of problem with mold. And I was regularly on
curezone to check with experienced guys how they treat molds on wheatgrass.
You guys are great inspiration to me. Specially grassman and quintia essentia :).
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- Re: Nausea? Quinta_Essentia
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This is a reply to # 1,272,842two things.
first try this. make a big bunch of juice and add your wheatgrass to it. dont use too many high Sugar items. use celery, cucumber, lemon, and maybe two carrots. then add all your wheatgrass to the juice. sip that all day. the wheatgrass blends in real nice and you dont taste it. also the detox is subtle, not hitting you all at once.
second, if you get major detox symptoms, eat an apple. this works. the fiber in the apple sucks up the toxins that have been stirred up and escorts them out. take a little calcium citrate with the apple or some IP6, both help to nuetralize toxins.- Re: Nausea? Rick67
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This is a reply to # 1,274,000Thanks for the help, guys!
I'm on a wheatgrass juice fast right now (day three). See my latest post for more info.- Re: Nausea? snow-runner
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This is a reply to # 1,278,184While I was on fast I question myself and look in Wigmore's book for the possibility of diluting the wheatgrass juice. This procedure has some also support in Dr. Walker fasting methods. But I would agree with grassman and his suggestion he gave at that time not too suppress natural ratios of bioactive substances in whaetgrass juice with any kind of diluting. That's why I followed drinking pure juice as I got from my-own grew wheatgrass. I rather include drinking other vegetale juice in different meals through the days. It is very important that body is whole time wet that you have a lot of natural plant liquid ( mostly from green-leafe vegetable ) in your self. This way you wont suffer from retention of water although you drink a lot of liquid.
And on the other way seretion of toxins is easier. This is the main cause of nausea:
not all part of the body is prepared on conflict between toxins and cleansing liquids.
If you spread this intensivity but still consuming pure juice as much as possible in mono form ( only wheatgrass ).Advertisement
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- Re: Dilution #46892
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This is a reply to # 1,278,194Study will reveal that diluting makes for a higher availability of the percentage involved,( ratios of elements arent involved, its just food, not some man made compound) and because of the lesser amount taken, the bodies congested state is not as comprimised, thus little or no nausea ( we dont have to suffer to cleanse).
You will get more benefit from taking diluted concoctions of any food than by taking the same straight , ( comparing the quantity of active ingrediants inbibed and assimulated).We've been using and comparing many different tecniques since the 70's.
Its similar to how the imature will think drinking straight liquor is better ect. However diluted actually causes more availability of the alcohol, rather than an amount being eliminated cause of how our sytems work with volume and content, and its easier on some of our systems and we get more brain damage thus drunker.
Perhaps not the most healthy analogy, it is exactly how weve found the grass juice experience to be.
- Re: Dilution Quinta_Essentia
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This is a reply to # 1,278,816thanks, good info. when you say 'we' studied this, who is 'we'?
i found that adding about 6 ounces of wheatgrass juice to about a half gallon of water then sipping that all day was the most intense cleanse ever. just wonderful. no nausea at all.- Re: Dilution #46892
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Yes I love it cut w only water also. The actual sweet wholesome taste becomes evan more noticable and enjoyable.
We, apart from the basic editorial we, refers to all who Ive have shared this health expedition with, family, friends and also Dj Knowles and the grassgrowing group from the 70's, Community Works, where we at first thought straight was best. We approached it like a contest ( being so young) and those of us w cleaner consitutions could drink 6 to 8 oz straight with out nausea discomfort, tho often intestinally there would be an affect in that some of the quantity would just pass. Which got us into the tonics and the finding that the asimulation and permeation seemed far more efficient.- Re: Dilution Quinta_Essentia
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This is a reply to # 1,278,887i so miss the soil grown grass i used to juice when i lived in california. i live up north now in the city and its so hard to grow real wheatgrass. i think growing it in the earth is really the only way to go. dont trust the tray stuff, but thats just me.
i need to find a place somewhere nice where i can grow copious amounts of grass and juice everyday.- Kalifornia vairagi
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This is a reply to # 1,278,895Reminds me of that John Mayhall song , Cal------ifornia, thats where I belong.
Perhaps its a state of mind cause tha physical place aint quite the same anymore.- Re: Kalifornia Quinta_Essentia
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This is a reply to # 1,279,454yes its always changing isn't it? change change change.
i want to move away from where i am now but i cant for the life of me decide where i want to go. i guess fate will let me know when the time is right and the signs will point the way and i will follow.
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Hello Dilution,
Thank you for your answer.
Your comparation with imature and alcohol liquor seems logical but I am not sure it is
apropriate.
Yes I respect poiint of view to consume wheatgrass/barley juice as dlitued with water ( i hope only with distilled water ). I have dilemmas with diluting with other juices becuase of possible conflicts in enzymes.
But still I admit i have not theoretical background. I hope I'll be able to explore in my post-graduate study in more detail theoretical basis.
I am very curious about your study. So I am thankfull in advance for any reference and arguments. My problem is that I started my background from my personal experience. I must admit I have no idea if protocol would be more effective ( i had no time for deeper exploration because I had to start protocol because of my ilness ) If I would consider some dilution ( with other juices or water ).
So while I have no better arguments I would still consider to drink pure wheatgrass juice and to prepare my body to be wet in inside after and before wheatgrass juice.
But if the dilution is more effective than I would still consider optimal ratios.
It's not just food. This is not only the case in normal state of body
( you drink wheatgrass juice just to be more effective or protection in stress
exposures ) but more the case in states of more challenged ilness states( cancer, crohn, autoimmunity ) or chronic states.
I am now considering auto-immunity that results on liver. This is very hard state.
As I feel the behaviour of the body it is very unstable as much the juices are complex...
So my conclusions until I have no better arguments or study is just to trust the ratios nature prepared.- Re: Dilution Quinta_Essentia
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This is a reply to # 1,278,922if you really want to trust the ratios nature provided then you should just chew the grass, not juice it. there are no juicers in nature, thus the ratio in the juice is 'unnatural'. so if you want to be totally natural you shouldn't juice since juice doens't exist in nature, only whole foods.
i think we can get too hung up on 'natural'. is living in a house 'natural'? is writing messages to each other across the world on the internet 'natural'? lots of things may not be 'natural' but that doens't mean they aren't good to do. Nature gave us a brain and that brain can be used to create highly effective protocol for health. and those protocols may, or may not, appear in nature. thats the way i see it anyway.
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Quinta Essentia,
Thank you for your response.
Well some of your comparisons are apropriate some are not.
Your comment about chewing seems reasonable. Others are not in context of healing.
Let me explain my start position when I formed my opinion:
1. I have personal success story in my case with not too easy illness
2. Mixing different kind of juices acording to my understanding and books I was able to
study is very demanding subject.
2.1 Why do we talk about juices not about smoothies or vegetable or wheatgrass
in whole form?
We're talking about special form of our body when we're not able
to perfect absorb bioactive subtances.
2.1.1 Because of previous way of life ( standard diets )
that program our digestive system not to be able
to absorb as it should be i nature
2.1.1 Because of some illness that makes bioavailiabity more difficult
As we all know fibers are making bioavailability more difficult special
in states of body where we would like ideal absroption.
2.2 Mixing of different kind of enzymes
This is not in nature
Even chimps know that.
They eat fruits and nuts in different periods of the year.
On the other way they eat green leaves in rainy period of the year.
So they make strong firewall ( of course this is intuitive )
between detox part of the year and regeneration part or energy refreshed
part...
Ok, you told me nature is not the point. So Maybe this comparison is not
apropriate.
But since there is no better argument I'll stick to my success story.
Thank you again...
Glad we're in touch.- Re: optimizing #46892
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This is a reply to # 1,279,115We really arent in conflict between straight and diluted forms. We are all using chlorphyll to get better and stay healthy and thats half the challange.
Tho there may be a debate somwhere in this thread, I think we can agree that chlorophyll is really strictly a complete food and only when we are living sub par do we find it to be medicinal. Herbivores dont have cleansing crisis like humans and we know why.
One good friend who was ill drank 4 oz straight shots( they felt it was easier than diluting) every day for 6 months and had great benefit without drastically changing their diet ( tho it was fairly low protein, high fiber, anyway).
Its so tough when illness stays after repeated regimins. Experimenting and self medicating is a powewfull way to go, however relying on intuition can be a slow process if we arent well versed in systems functions, gross and or subtle. So keeping the adepts texts close at hand can really help speed recovery.
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